Official July 2nd IFA Thread

Post #1 » by **Cyrus** » Sat Jul 1, 2017 2:21 pm

Met are they in on any of the Top 3 guys? Like they were 2 years ago when they signed Vladdy, or are they by design going for a bunch of guys, who may good but not elite like Guerrero

-MetA4- · Post #2 » by **-MetA4-** » Sat Jul 1, 2017 6:03 pm

They are in on a lot of guys this year. Whether or not we are getting an "elite" guy depends on what you want to make of Eric Pardinho. Jesse Sanchez (MLB.com) and Eric Longenhagen (Fangraphs) have him ranked 5th and 6th, whereas Ben Badler (BA) has him ranked 14th. This is due to his short stature and low physical projectability which makes him a scouting conundrum.

Ben Badler has us linked to 5 of his Top 50 prospects:

#14 RHP Eric Pardinho, Brazil
#23 SS Miguel Hiraldo, D.R.
#32 RHP Alejandro Melean, Venezuela
#36 SS Leonardo Jimenez, Panama
#38 OF Alberto Rodriguez, D.R.

Jesse Sanchez has Miguel Hiraldo at #17 and Longenhagen has him at #18.

Longenhagen also has us linked to OF Eddyzon Moreno (D.R.) who he has ranked 21st. This is interesting because Moreno didn't even make Badler's Top 50, nor did he even get mentioned in his Blue Jays writeup which listed 10 names for guys we were expected to sign.

Badler also mentioned that we were set to blow past our pool this year before the new CBA put hard-caps on IFA spending.

-MetA4- · Post #3 » by **-MetA4-** » Sun Jul 2, 2017 1:12 pm

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-MetA4- · Post #4 » by **-MetA4-** » Sun Jul 2, 2017 4:11 pm

Lane Thomas has been traded to the Cardinlas for more pool space.

polo007 · Post #5 » by **polo007** » Sun Jul 2, 2017 7:11 pm

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polo007 · Post #6 » by **polo007** » Sun Jul 2, 2017 8:52 pm

-MetA4- wrote:Lane Thomas has been traded to the Cardinlas for more pool space.

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polo007 · Post #7 » by **polo007** » Sun Jul 2, 2017 9:08 pm

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polo007 · Post #8 » by **polo007** » Sun Jul 2, 2017 11:46 pm

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Post #9 » by **JaysRule15** » Sun Jul 2, 2017 11:55 pm

So, 4 of the top 5 ranked guys by MLB signed with AL East teams lol. This division man.

polo007 · Post #10 » by **polo007** » Mon Jul 3, 2017 3:58 pm

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-MetA4- · Post #11 » by **-MetA4-** » Mon Jul 3, 2017 4:01 pm

We're at $4,305,000 in announced bonuses so far.

Post #12 » by **JaysRule15** » Mon Jul 3, 2017 9:24 pm

We signed 5 guys in Baseball America's Top 40.

No. 14- Eric Pardinho
No. 23- Miguel Hiraldo
No. 32- Alejandro Melean
No. 36- Leonardo Jimenez
No. 38- Alberto Rodriguez (Should be Schad's favorite, since he could turn out to be mix of Pujols and A-Rod lol)

phillipmike · Post #13 » by **phillipmike** » Tue Jul 4, 2017 1:10 pm

Huge draft, huge IFA and could be a huge deadline if they sell.

polo007 · Post #14 » by **polo007** » Thu Jul 6, 2017 11:16 pm

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SAO PAULO — A 16-year-old Brazilian right-hander with a 94 mph fastball agreed on Thursday to a minor league contract with the Toronto Blue Jays.

Eric Pardinho, No. 5 on MLB.com's list of 30 international amateur prospects, made the announcement alongside Blue Jays assistant general manager Andrew Tinnish.

The 5-foot, 8-inch Pardinho has been scouted by the Blue Jays he was 14 and will report to the team's complex in the Dominican Republic.

"We really like his arm action, delivery and his athleticism," Tinnish said during a news conference. "He is one of the most advanced I've seen at this age. This is a very mature 16-year-old."

Evandro Pardinho, Eric's father, said there were multiple offers, but the Blue Jays' had the best balance between infrastructure and money.

"Other Brazilians that played in the major leagues have helped me through this process, I hope to adapt quickly," Pardinho said.

polo007 · Post #15 » by **polo007** » Mon Jul 10, 2017 4:31 pm

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Post #16 » by **Cyrus** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 11:22 pm

Interesting news if true:

The 2017-18 international market has only been open for a little over two months, but Baseball America’s Ben Badler already has a preview (available to BA subscribers) of 10 notable prospects who will be available in the 2018-19 int’l class, which opens next July 2. Dominican shortstop Orelvis Martinez projects to have the largest bonus of this group, as the 15-year-old is expected to receive over $3MM from a team, with the Blue Jays reportedly favorites.

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2017/09/blue-jays-notes-prospects-osuna-anderson-urena.html

Looks like we are set to blow our 2017-18 international budget on top international prospect.

flatjacket1 · Post #17 » by **flatjacket1** » Tue Sep 12, 2017 5:28 pm

Cyrus wrote:Interesting news if true:

The 2017-18 international market has only been open for a little over two months, but Baseball America’s Ben Badler already has a preview (available to BA subscribers) of 10 notable prospects who will be available in the 2018-19 int’l class, which opens next July 2. Dominican shortstop Orelvis Martinez projects to have the largest bonus of this group, as the 15-year-old is expected to receive over $3MM from a team, with the Blue Jays reportedly favorites.

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2017/09/blue-jays-notes-prospects-osuna-anderson-urena.html

Looks like we are set to blow our 2017-18 international budget on top international prospect.

He looks legit at the plate, for a 15 year old to be that strong with the bat is pretty crazy.

I can't help but feel US/Canada is setting themselves back with the youth baseball by using BBCOR bats.. All the Dominican and IFA guys use wood.

Post #18 » by **Cyrus** » Thu Sep 14, 2017 4:54 am

If we are set to give this guy big bucks, we are probably out on Shohel Otani as he will require international bonus pool money. Yanks have been stocking up on it.

Post #19 » by **Schad** » Thu Sep 14, 2017 5:15 am

Cyrus wrote:If we are set to give this guy big bucks, we are probably out on Shohel Otani as he will require international bonus pool money. Yanks have been stocking up on it.

This would be under the 2017 bonus pool, rather than 2018; that doesn't begin until July 2nd of that year, whereas Otani will be posted this winter.

The Yankees have built up some extra bonus money, but they've also spent a fair amount. Ultimately doesn't matter though; Otani isn't going to be signed based upon the size of the offer. $1m or $2m here is a drop in the bucket...he'll sign somewhere (on a minor-league deal) and almost immediately negotiate close to a nine-figure deal, assuming that's the route his agent wants to go. He'll also make several mil a year in endorsements; Ichiro was around $6-7m per annum late in his time with the Mariners.

dagger · Post #20 » by **dagger** » Thu Sep 14, 2017 8:14 pm

Schad wrote:
Cyrus wrote:If we are set to give this guy big bucks, we are probably out on Shohel Otani as he will require international bonus pool money. Yanks have been stocking up on it.

This would be under the 2017 bonus pool, rather than 2018; that doesn't begin until July 2nd of that year, whereas Otani will be posted this winter.

The Yankees have built up some extra bonus money, but they've also spent a fair amount. Ultimately doesn't matter though; Otani isn't going to be signed based upon the size of the offer. $1m or $2m here is a drop in the bucket...he'll sign somewhere (on a minor-league deal) and almost immediately negotiate close to a nine-figure deal, assuming that's the route his agent wants to go. He'll also make several mil a year in endorsements; Ichiro was around $6-7m per annum late in his time with the Mariners.

This reminds me of how Anthopoulos and Beeston turned the You Darvish chase into a PR fiasco by letting fans think the Jays were in on the pursuit, even failing to quell speculation we were a top 2 bidder, went, IIRC, it was ultimately revealed that Toronto wasn't even remotely close to Texas. Now, listening to the Rogers talking heads on the Fan, I get the same feeling. This is going to be a fiasco unless Shapiro and Atkins dampen expectations. Maybe Otani signs here, but more likely he goes to the National League where he can hit when he pitches as well as play the odd game in the outfield.