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ST: Dan Shaughnessy @ Dan Shulman | June 30, July 1-2 

Post#1 » by Black Watch » Fri Jun 30, 2017 10:39 pm

Today, tomorrow, and Sunday.

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Re: ST: Dan Shaughnessy @ Dan Shulman | June 30, July 1-2 

Post#2 » by Black Watch » Fri Jun 30, 2017 11:27 pm

Don't worry, y'all, I'm not watching the game either.
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Re: ST: Dan Shaughnessy @ Dan Shulman | June 30, July 1-2 

Post#3 » by Lateral Quicks » Fri Jun 30, 2017 11:29 pm

Smoakshow.
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Post#4 » by fouronesix22 » Fri Jun 30, 2017 11:59 pm

marco loads the bases... crap
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Re: ST: Dan Shaughnessy @ Dan Shulman | June 30, July 1-2 

Post#5 » by fouronesix22 » Sat Jul 1, 2017 12:07 am

wow he got out of that bases loaded
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Re: ST: Dan Shaughnessy @ Dan Shulman | June 30, July 1-2 

Post#6 » by Lateral Quicks » Sat Jul 1, 2017 12:10 am

Pretty incredible to get out of the inning without any runs scored after walking the first three guys.
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Re: ST: Dan Shaughnessy @ Dan Shulman | June 30, July 1-2 

Post#7 » by Lateral Quicks » Sat Jul 1, 2017 12:12 am

Ugghh... finding Tabby even more annoying than normal tonight. Dan and Buck are way out of Tabby's league in the broadcast booth (when Buck is the colour guy, that is).
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Post#8 » by Lateral Quicks » Sat Jul 1, 2017 12:18 am

Great AB Tulo.
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Post#9 » by Lateral Quicks » Sat Jul 1, 2017 12:27 am

Estrada on pace for a 13 walk, 200+ pitch no-hit shutout.
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Post#10 » by So_Fresh » Sat Jul 1, 2017 2:47 am

wow this forum is dead.
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Re: ST: Dan Shaughnessy @ Dan Shulman | June 30, July 1-2 

Post#11 » by The_Hater » Sat Jul 1, 2017 3:09 am

Is it about time to conclude that it isn't happening this year?

And we don't need a hot steak before the trade deadline to slow down any rebuild.
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Re: ST: Dan Shaughnessy @ Dan Shulman | June 30, July 1-2 

Post#12 » by fouronesix22 » Sat Jul 1, 2017 3:24 am

this game will never end if boston doesnt score. because god knows the jays wont score jack ****
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Re: ST: Dan Shaughnessy @ Dan Shulman | June 30, July 1-2 

Post#13 » by fouronesix22 » Sat Jul 1, 2017 3:25 am

why the hell was loup in the game this long anyway
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Re: ST: Dan Shaughnessy @ Dan Shulman | June 30, July 1-2 

Post#14 » by Schad » Sat Jul 1, 2017 3:26 am

The_Hater wrote:Is it about time to conclude that it isn't happening this year?

And we don't need a hot steak before the trade deadline to slow down any rebuild.


Yeah, I think so. We might pull off a short hot streak, but there really isn't anything this team does well beyond its bullpen. We're between the 21st- and 24th-best offense by advanced metrics, and 26th by raw runs per game. Fangraphs' metrics have us as the second-worst defensive team in baseball, and our starting pitching is 13th in fWAR, 18th in FIP, and 17th in ERA...so, pretty well average, maybe modestly above-average if Sanchez comes back strong. It's hard to go on a months-long tear with a good 'pen, solid rotation, awful defense and meek bats.
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Re: ST: Dan Shaughnessy @ Dan Shulman | June 30, July 1-2 

Post#15 » by Schad » Sat Jul 1, 2017 3:53 am

Wild Card is as follows (assuming the Mariners don't blow a large lead to the Angels):

NYY +3.0
MIN --
TB --
LAA 1.0
BAL 1.5
KC 1.5
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TEX 2.0 (in the time it took me to type this, Matt Bush blew a three-run lead. Great, because **** Matt Bush).
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Re: ST: Dan Shaughnessy @ Dan Shulman | June 30, July 1-2 

Post#16 » by C Court » Sat Jul 1, 2017 4:11 am

Just got back from the game. Lots of Red Sox fans at Rogers Centre. Great night for baseball.

With all the walks I was thinking I should walk home after the game.
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Re: ST: Dan Shaughnessy @ Dan Shulman | June 30, July 1-2 

Post#17 » by Mehar » Sat Jul 1, 2017 4:33 am

I have had enough of seeing Loup in a Jays uniform. He has not been good since 2015. Time for him to be DFA soon. Give someone else a chance instead. Looking forward to the trade deadline. Everyone should be made available for the right price. No untouchables on this team. That means entertaining offers for Osuna as well. His value will be the highest given the season he has. Nobody knows what could happen with him in 2018 (his anxiety, etc.). Take a hammer to this team, and rebuild.
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Re: ST: Dan Shaughnessy @ Dan Shulman | June 30, July 1-2 

Post#18 » by Lateral Quicks » Sat Jul 1, 2017 12:42 pm

Mehar wrote:I have had enough of seeing Loup in a Jays uniform. He has not been good since 2015. Time for him to be DFA soon. Give someone else a chance instead. Looking forward to the trade deadline. Everyone should be made available for the right price. No untouchables on this team. That means entertaining offers for Osuna as well. His value will be the highest given the season he has. Nobody knows what could happen with him in 2018 (his anxiety, etc.). Take a hammer to this team, and rebuild.


Yeah, I've had just about enough of Loup as well. You can tell Gibby doesn't trust him either, as he's near the bottom of the depth chart. I knew when he came in that the Jays would lose. If there are more deserving guys needing a spot, I have no issues with DFA'ing him, or trading him for something (maybe a little cash).
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Re: ST: Dan Shaughnessy @ Dan Shulman | June 30, July 1-2 

Post#19 » by Lateral Quicks » Sat Jul 1, 2017 12:48 pm

Schad wrote:
The_Hater wrote:Is it about time to conclude that it isn't happening this year?

And we don't need a hot steak before the trade deadline to slow down any rebuild.


Yeah, I think so. We might pull off a short hot streak, but there really isn't anything this team does well beyond its bullpen. We're between the 21st- and 24th-best offense by advanced metrics, and 26th by raw runs per game. Fangraphs' metrics have us as the second-worst defensive team in baseball, and our starting pitching is 13th in fWAR, 18th in FIP, and 17th in ERA...so, pretty well average, maybe modestly above-average if Sanchez comes back strong. It's hard to go on a months-long tear with a good 'pen, solid rotation, awful defense and meek bats.


I sure hope we pull off a hot streak before the deadline, because the guys you'd want to move in a rebuild are losing value fast at the moment. Donaldson, Martin, and Happ should all bring great to decent returns. Bautista and Morales are likely movable as salary dumps without much of anything coming back. Tulowitzki looks unmovable at the moment, and Estrada's value has taken a big hit with that ugly June.
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Re: ST: Dan Shaughnessy @ Dan Shulman | June 30, July 1-2 

Post#20 » by The_Hater » Sat Jul 1, 2017 12:53 pm

Lateral Quicks wrote:
Schad wrote:
The_Hater wrote:Is it about time to conclude that it isn't happening this year?

And we don't need a hot steak before the trade deadline to slow down any rebuild.


Yeah, I think so. We might pull off a short hot streak, but there really isn't anything this team does well beyond its bullpen. We're between the 21st- and 24th-best offense by advanced metrics, and 26th by raw runs per game. Fangraphs' metrics have us as the second-worst defensive team in baseball, and our starting pitching is 13th in fWAR, 18th in FIP, and 17th in ERA...so, pretty well average, maybe modestly above-average if Sanchez comes back strong. It's hard to go on a months-long tear with a good 'pen, solid rotation, awful defense and meek bats.


I sure hope we pull off a hot streak before the deadline, because the guys you'd want to move in a rebuild are losing value fast at the moment. Donaldson, Martin, and Happ should all bring great to decent returns. Bautista and Morales are likely movable as salary dumps without much of anything coming back. Tulowitzki looks unmovable at the moment, and Estrada's value has taken a big hit with that ugly June.


It would be nice if some players pick it up but a hot streak puts the Jays firmly in the WC race and kills any chance of being sellers.
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