ST: The Babeldom Birds @ The Bacciferous Bears | August 18-20

zilby · Post #1 » by **zilby** » Fri Aug 18, 2017 2:59 pm

I just don't know what we're up to anymore. Are we tanking? Are we not? Nobody has the answers. I'm just as confused as you are.

Game 1 - Friday, August 18th
2:20PM first pitch

JA Happ (6-8, 3.63) vs. Jake Arrieta (12-8, 3.73)

Game 2 - Saturday, August 19th
2:20PM first pitch

Nick Tepesch (1-2, 5.25) vs. Jose Quintana (7-10, 4.33)

Game 3 - Sunday, August 20th
2:20PM first pitch

Marco Estrada (5-8, 5.09) vs. Kyle Hendricks (4-4, 3.45)

dagger · Post #2 » by **dagger** » Fri Aug 18, 2017 3:13 pm

zilby wrote:I just don't know what we're up to anymore. Are we tanking? Are we not? Nobody has the answers. I'm just as confused as you are.

Will post the official stuff soon, but just a heads up that today's game starts at 2:15 in the afternoon.

I don't think we're trying to lose, but elements of the team are being remade for next season - notably the bullpen and starting rotation. And I expect more change in September.

polo007 · Post #3 » by **polo007** » Fri Aug 18, 2017 4:09 pm

Read on Twitter

ldnk · Post #4 » by **ldnk** » Fri Aug 18, 2017 5:55 pm

**** the fever. Should make him just throw more heat.

Raps_Swingman · Post #5 » by **Raps_Swingman** » Fri Aug 18, 2017 6:47 pm

Man Smoak doesn't slow down. I like having Pearce in the 4 hole. I'd keep him there ahead of Morales right now.

polo007 · Post #6 » by **polo007** » Fri Aug 18, 2017 8:20 pm

Read on Twitter

fouronesix22 · Post #7 » by **fouronesix22** » Fri Aug 18, 2017 8:59 pm

GOINS. is fantastic

ldnk · Post #8 » by **ldnk** » Fri Aug 18, 2017 9:15 pm

Maiza struggles and Jays are down 7-4 in the 8th after getting back within 1. Facing a real team again this series is a big test on whether the Jays have any shot at making a run.

dagger · Post #9 » by **dagger** » Fri Aug 18, 2017 9:26 pm

ldnk wrote:Maiza struggles and Jays are down 7-4 in the 8th after getting back within 1. Facing a real team again this series is a big test on whether the Jays have any shot at making a run.

They don't. They don't have enough fire power. Against a weak offensive team like Tampa, they can keep up, but against almost everyone else... JD didn't have a hit today and he's been carrying the team of late.

fouronesix22 · Post #10 » by **fouronesix22** » Fri Aug 18, 2017 10:21 pm

Beating a dead horse.... but yeah too many teams to jump. The Jays have to win and hope that the teams above would lose majority of their games. The chances are still slim... Lets just see what happens in the winter and 2018 of course

fouronesix22 · Post #11 » by **fouronesix22** » Fri Aug 18, 2017 10:57 pm

Does anyone know why Gibby changed JD to SS, Jose to 3B etc.?

Post #12 » by **Schad** » Fri Aug 18, 2017 11:12 pm

fouronesix22 wrote:Does anyone know why Gibby changed JD to SS, Jose to 3B etc.?

From the game log: he had Carrera pinch hit for Barney in the 7th, and opted to rearrange the defense to maximize the number of players in the game who could more or less hit.

johanliebert · Post #13 » by **johanliebert** » Sat Aug 19, 2017 1:51 am

dagger wrote:
ldnk wrote:Maiza struggles and Jays are down 7-4 in the 8th after getting back within 1. Facing a real team again this series is a big test on whether the Jays have any shot at making a run.

They don't. They don't have enough fire power. Against a weak offensive team like Tampa, they can keep up, but against almost everyone else... JD didn't have a hit today and he's been carrying the team of late.

Cubs are a beatable team. They aren't world beaters by any means. Jays just ran into good starting pitching

Fairview4Life · Post #14 » by **Fairview4Life** » Sat Aug 19, 2017 2:02 am

Ryan Goins: RBI machine is almost as baffling as Justin Smoak: good.

Post #15 » by **Schad** » Sat Aug 19, 2017 2:26 am

Fairview4Life wrote:Ryan Goins: RBI machine is almost as baffling as Justin Smoak: good.

I'd say it's more baffling. Smoak was a very well-regarded prospect, once. It's probably more surprising for Jays fans who watched him flail for a couple years than people who remember that Smoak was supposed to be this.

Goins, on the other hand, has never hit and continues to be a terrible hitter overall. Give the man runners in scoring position, though, and suddenly he's one of the best hitters in baseball. And it's not just that he's slapping singles (though he has a fair count of slapped singles): his iso power with RISP would be top 25 in the majors overall. Coming into today, he struck out 11.1% of the time with RISP, and 22.4% without. None of it makes any goddamned sense.

zilby · Post #16 » by **zilby** » Sat Aug 19, 2017 3:21 am

Schad wrote:
Fairview4Life wrote:Ryan Goins: RBI machine is almost as baffling as Justin Smoak: good.

I'd say it's more baffling. Smoak was a very well-regarded prospect, once. It's probably more surprising for Jays fans who watched him flail for a couple years than people who remember that Smoak was supposed to be this.

Goins, on the other hand, has never hit and continues to be a terrible hitter overall. Give the man runners in scoring position, though, and suddenly he's one of the best hitters in baseball. And it's not just that he's slapping singles (though he has a fair count of slapped singles): his iso power with RISP would be top 25 in the majors overall. Coming into today, he struck out 11.1% of the time with RISP, and 22.4% without. None of it makes any goddamned sense.

RISP Goins is not meant to be understood, but embraced without question. Kind of like religion in that regard, which I guess makes sense considering Ryan Goins with RISP is basically a god.

Post #17 » by **JaysRule15** » Sat Aug 19, 2017 4:38 am

Remember that one season where Goins had a Barry Bonds-esque August with like a .450 OBP or something? #NeverForget

Lateral Quicks · Post #18 » by **Lateral Quicks** » Sat Aug 19, 2017 1:51 pm

Angels and Royals both lost yesterday, so the Jays are still three games back.

There are now four teams either tied for or a half game back of the second wildcard.

Post #19 » by **Schad** » Sat Aug 19, 2017 6:39 pm

If baseball ever moves the strike zone a foot up and out, Tepesch will be an ace.

vaff87 · Post #20 » by **vaff87** » Sat Aug 19, 2017 6:52 pm

Stupid National League.