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Post#1 » by johanliebert » Tue Aug 29, 2017 12:58 am

Didn't see a thread mid game so I figured why not... :crazy:

08/28/2017. Pomeranz vs stroman.

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Post#2 » by johanliebert » Tue Aug 29, 2017 12:58 am

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Post#3 » by JaysRule15 » Tue Aug 29, 2017 1:31 am

Danny Barnes on the tank patrol. Let's get it.

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Post#4 » by zilby » Tue Aug 29, 2017 1:32 am

Oh my god, I came in here to post Salmons because nobody else did. We were leading this game for a bit, come on you guys. Not okay.
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zilby wrote:Oh my god, I came in here to post Salmons because nobody else did. We were leading this game for a bit, come on you guys. Not okay.


lol, and just seconds after I posted Salmons, Loup fell apart and now the rest of the pen is blowing it too :lol:
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Post#6 » by zilby » Tue Aug 29, 2017 3:09 am

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zilby wrote:Oh my god, I came in here to post Salmons because nobody else did. We were leading this game for a bit, come on you guys. Not okay.


lol, and just seconds after I posted Salmons, Loup fell apart and now the rest of the pen is blowing it too :lol:

And that comeback fell short at the end. We might've won 5-3 if you hadn't posted Salmons. That was a real close call.
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Post#7 » by dagger » Tue Aug 29, 2017 3:15 am

Chris Sale tomorrow. Tank plows on
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Post#8 » by C Court » Tue Aug 29, 2017 3:40 am

I am surprisingly good about losses this year, particularly when I see the young guys on the Red Sox. It gives me hope for what the Jays can be in a couple of seasons. Grabbed tickets for the Tigers series in September. Have tix for tomorrow.
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Post#9 » by dagger » Tue Aug 29, 2017 12:35 pm

Centre Court wrote:I am surprisingly good about losses this year, particularly when I see the young guys on the Red Sox. It gives me hope for what the Jays can be in a couple of seasons. Grabbed tickets for the Tigers series in September. Have tix for tomorrow.


Indeed, that's the way good teams are going to be built. Same formula as Astros and Yankees. You build a base of high end young talent, controllable for several years, and add on free agent veterans - or trade for them out of prospect surpluses - when the initial results start to justify it. You don't go making expensive signings first, or trade away prospects, until you develop that young base first. In other words, you have to be good at amateur scouting and player development, and at least initially, even if you are a big market team, you have to exhibit some patience. I don't think the Alex Anthopoulos school of team-building can be that patient, or work in that order. You can open short term windows, but not built anything truly sustainable. I have confidence that this management team, which made Cleveland into a steady division winner with a future, can make the Jays contenders in the AL East within three years. We will enjoy 2019 and 2020 - even if they are non-playoff years - because the team should be able to fold in exciting young players by then. I'm only concerned about 2018 and the possibility of a couple of bad free agent signings that will erect a Potemkin Village to keep the turnstiles clicking and the viewers viewing. But it will be a sham.
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Post#10 » by C Court » Tue Aug 29, 2017 12:58 pm

The Jays have done a good job of attracting younger fans and families to the Rogers Centre. It's become a place to be for the downtown condo crowd. My 21 y/o daughter and her boyfriend go to Jays games every three or four weeks (I buy). My 20 y/o son will watch more than half the Jays games on TV, after refusing to watch baseball at all until recently.

While I disagreed with Alex's team building approach, the Jays playoff runs have reignited interest in the city. Now it's up to Shapiro to make it sustainable. I think he's doing it the right way. I was near the Rogers Centre/ACC yesterday at 3:00 and I was amazed at all the Jays fans who were already downtown. Many were tourists, but it's not something that happened five years ago.
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Centre Court wrote:The Jays have done a good job of attracting younger fans and families to the Rogers Centre. It's become a place to be for the downtown condo crowd. My 21 y/o daughter and her boyfriend go to Jays games every three or four weeks (I buy). My 20 y/o son will watch more than half the Jays games on TV, after refusing to watch baseball at all until recently.

While I disagreed with Alex's team building approach, the Jays playoff runs have reignited interest in the city. Now it's up to Shapiro to make it sustainable. I think he's doing it the right way. I was near the Rogers Centre/ACC yesterday at 3:00 and I was amazed at all the Jays fans who were already downtown. Many were tourists, but it's not something that happened five years ago.

I personally think Baseball is dying, as a large millennial segment does not watch the sport.

1. People of ethnic backgrounds don't watch or play baseball. Meanwhile, Toronto's population continues to shift towards that.
2. The pace of baseball is way to slow to capture millennial interest on TV and in-stadium.
3. Baseball players aren't marketable to millennials. They have no personality on or off the field - which is a reflection of the sport itself to be honest.

I have no stats to back any of this up but this is my holistic view of the sport in a nutshell.
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Post#12 » by C Court » Tue Aug 29, 2017 7:42 pm

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Centre Court wrote:The Jays have done a good job of attracting younger fans and families to the Rogers Centre. It's become a place to be for the downtown condo crowd. My 21 y/o daughter and her boyfriend go to Jays games every three or four weeks (I buy). My 20 y/o son will watch more than half the Jays games on TV, after refusing to watch baseball at all until recently.

While I disagreed with Alex's team building approach, the Jays playoff runs have reignited interest in the city. Now it's up to Shapiro to make it sustainable. I think he's doing it the right way. I was near the Rogers Centre/ACC yesterday at 3:00 and I was amazed at all the Jays fans who were already downtown. Many were tourists, but it's not something that happened five years ago.

I personally think Baseball is dying, as a large millennial segment does not watch the sport.

1. People of ethnic backgrounds don't watch or play baseball. Meanwhile, Toronto's population continues to shift towards that.
2. The pace of baseball is way to slow to capture millennial interest on TV and in-stadium.
3. Baseball players aren't marketable to millennials. They have no personality on or off the field - which is a reflection of the sport itself to be honest.

I have no stats to back any of this up but this is my holistic view of the sport in a nutshell.


Despite the Jays averaging 40,000 per game and solid TV ratings, MLB as a whole is facing challenges.

According to several sources, the MLB’s popularity is increasingly dying down each year and younger people aren’t as interested in playing or watching the game. The following statistics, according to Nielsen’s Year in Sports Media report, provide some context as to who exactly is watching baseball:

50% are 55 or older
26% are between the age 33 – 54
70% are male
83% are white

Upon looking at the above statistics, it becomes easier to determine what the baseball-viewing fan base looks like. It’s apparent that not as many young people are watching baseball games – 24% of viewers are under the age of 33.
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Post#14 » by Schad » Tue Aug 29, 2017 8:55 pm

Nice of us dealing with Aoki...gives him a chance to be picked up by a team with playoff aspirations. If he's on a roster in the next couple days, he's playoff roster-eligible.
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Post#15 » by metafisical » Tue Aug 29, 2017 9:43 pm

Yeezus_ wrote:I personally think Baseball is dying, as a large millennial segment does not watch the sport.

1. People of ethnic backgrounds don't watch or play baseball. Meanwhile, Toronto's population continues to shift towards that.
2. The pace of baseball is way to slow to capture millennial interest on TV and in-stadium.
3. Baseball players aren't marketable to millennials. They have no personality on or off the field - which is a reflection of the sport itself to be honest.

I have no stats to back any of this up but this is my holistic view of the sport in a nutshell.


I think millennial interest in organized sports in general is declining. There are just too many entertainment options, and pro sports in general, let alone MLB, is just one in a myriad of options.

I am in my late 30s, so not a millenial, but between family life, a career, chores and going out with buddies, I don't have time to follow sports anymore. I don't have a TV, so I can't watch any sports there. I knew of a couple of websites in the past where I could stream sports for free, but I don't watch anything there anymore either. I'll occasionally watch baseball highlights online, and I exclusively follow NBA and NHL via Realgm forums only now -- I don't even watch highlights of them at all (not even during the playoffs).

I have only so much time in the day to do things, so my time dedicated to entertainment is at a premium. That's why I expose myself outside at night for entertainment.
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Post#16 » by SharoneWright » Wed Aug 30, 2017 12:33 am

Lol. Worst throw I've ever seen.
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Post#17 » by zilby » Wed Aug 30, 2017 1:12 am

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Yeezus_ wrote:
Centre Court wrote:The Jays have done a good job of attracting younger fans and families to the Rogers Centre. It's become a place to be for the downtown condo crowd. My 21 y/o daughter and her boyfriend go to Jays games every three or four weeks (I buy). My 20 y/o son will watch more than half the Jays games on TV, after refusing to watch baseball at all until recently.

While I disagreed with Alex's team building approach, the Jays playoff runs have reignited interest in the city. Now it's up to Shapiro to make it sustainable. I think he's doing it the right way. I was near the Rogers Centre/ACC yesterday at 3:00 and I was amazed at all the Jays fans who were already downtown. Many were tourists, but it's not something that happened five years ago.

I personally think Baseball is dying, as a large millennial segment does not watch the sport.

1. People of ethnic backgrounds don't watch or play baseball. Meanwhile, Toronto's population continues to shift towards that.
2. The pace of baseball is way to slow to capture millennial interest on TV and in-stadium.
3. Baseball players aren't marketable to millennials. They have no personality on or off the field - which is a reflection of the sport itself to be honest.

I have no stats to back any of this up but this is my holistic view of the sport in a nutshell.


Despite the Jays averaging 40,000 per game and solid TV ratings, MLB as a whole is facing challenges.

According to several sources, the MLB’s popularity is increasingly dying down each year and younger people aren’t as interested in playing or watching the game. The following statistics, according to Nielsen’s Year in Sports Media report, provide some context as to who exactly is watching baseball:

50% are 55 or older
26% are between the age 33 – 54
70% are male
83% are white

Upon looking at the above statistics, it becomes easier to determine what the baseball-viewing fan base looks like. It’s apparent that not as many young people are watching baseball games – 24% of viewers are under the age of 33.

No surprise. The one thing the NBA has done well, and not everybody sees this as a positive, is Silver's era has allowed players to build their own brands and showcase their personalities, which breathed life into the NBA. The MLB hasn't really done that, since former players pretty much crap on anybody with a personality and talk about respecting the game, umpires are still allowed to call balls and strikes, etc. There's a lot of appeal to baseball, even going to the park on a sunny afternoon is a nice day out with family or friends or significant others. The way baseball is structured currently hinders that, and there are ways to work around it but the MLB isn't there. Analysts **** on Yasiel Puig and Bautista and Cespedes, but they have all had pretty good careers to date and they're fun, but injecting any form of personality into the sport is frowned upon. If a guy pimps a homer the pitcher will bean him and analysts will say he shouldn't have crossed the line. Baseball is a sport, it should be fun. It's currently perceived as not fun, rightly so because everyone and everything is so rigid and stiff.
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Post#18 » by Lateral Quicks » Wed Aug 30, 2017 2:23 am

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Despite the Jays averaging 40,000 per game and solid TV ratings, MLB as a whole is facing challenges.



I hope they don't abandon the people that appreciate the slower pace of play. I wasn't a fan of the automatic intentional walk for example - always a chance of a wild pitch, passed ball, a bunt or other ball in play. I'm all for obvious things like minimizing time between pitches, forcing batters to stay in the box, etc., but I don't want fundamental aspects of the game tinkered with.
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Post#19 » by Hero Ball » Wed Aug 30, 2017 7:23 pm

metafisical wrote:I have only so much time in the day to do things, so my time dedicated to entertainment is at a premium. That's why I expose myself outside at night for entertainment.


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Post#20 » by dagger » Wed Aug 30, 2017 8:20 pm

Smoak has a minor calf injury and is out, and Donaldson is getting a day off. Tank at full speed.

Also, Devin travis has had a setback in his rehab, so don't look for him in December.
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