Stroman sounds off on losing arbitration

Raptors Realtor · Post #1 » by **Raptors Realtor** » Thu Feb 15, 2018 6:53 pm

Doesn't sound happy with the front office...

https://www.tsn.ca/jays-p-stroman-sounds-off-on-losing-arbitration-case-1.1000469

dagger · Post #2 » by **dagger** » Thu Feb 15, 2018 7:01 pm

The problem with Stroman is that his self-promotion is endless. Little man syndrome. Now would be a good time to consider trading him, because his high salary years aren't going to be measure up with the rebuilding timeline. Of course, I'd not be looking for a small return.

Still, for $400,000 in a winter when the team isn't making contend-now moves, it wouldn't have killed them to avoid this needless headache. They were generous, all things considered, with both Donaldson and Sanchez in avoiding arbitration.

Skin Blues · Post #3 » by **Skin Blues** » Thu Feb 15, 2018 7:05 pm

Cry me a river. Same persecution complex as Bautista, only he won't shut up about it. Hopefully he can use this as fuel to compete at a higher level. At least for a couple months so we can trade him.

Post #4 » by **Schad** » Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:22 pm

Definitely silly on Stroman's part. It is why some teams go out of their way to avoid arb, though...it's necessarily an adversarial process, and while most players get that it's just business, some really take umbrage.

whysoserious · Post #5 » by **whysoserious** » Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:26 pm

The process is dumb to begin with but why are we fighting with one of our top pitchers for $400k?

Topher · Post #6 » by **Topher** » Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:39 pm

Trade him now. We don’t need someone like this on the team.

Post #7 » by **Geddy** » Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:56 pm

I'd rather not have a management that cheaps out on 400k

Post #8 » by **Schad** » Thu Feb 15, 2018 9:17 pm

whysoserious wrote:The process is dumb to begin with but why are we fighting with one of our top pitchers for $400k?

Have to draw the line somewhere, and this silliness is mostly on Stroman. That said, Stroman's arb request was below his projection, so I'd have been more willing to settle with him than if he had asked for the moon.

North_of_Border · Post #9 » by **North_of_Border** » Thu Feb 15, 2018 9:27 pm

I always thought Stroman would be a Yankee some day. Now I can see it eventually happening. Some day. I don’t get why I thought that but looks too perfect a match.

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Lateral Quicks · Post #10 » by **Lateral Quicks** » Thu Feb 15, 2018 9:54 pm

Stroman is like Bautista for me - like the performance, not too fond of the personality.

North_of_Border · Post #11 » by **North_of_Border** » Thu Feb 15, 2018 10:03 pm

So Sanchez wins in the end. Too bad I don’t see the Jays keeping either long term though. Both are gonna get mega deals when they are eligible

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jaymeister15 · Post #12 » by **jaymeister15** » Thu Feb 15, 2018 10:34 pm

Meh, I don’t really have an issue with either side on this. It’s obviously part of Stroman’s personality to take stuff like this personally and he seems to draw motivation out of it, which has worked out pretty well for him.

From the jays side, it’s just management doing their job and it’s part of the business.

So_Fresh · Post #13 » by **So_Fresh** » Thu Feb 15, 2018 11:35 pm

So last year he won and was happy with the Jays and the arbitration process. This year he lost and he's upset. And yet he says he understands it's business. Hmmm?

So_Fresh · Post #14 » by **So_Fresh** » Thu Feb 15, 2018 11:36 pm

North_of_Border wrote:So Sanchez wins in the end. Too bad I don’t see the Jays keeping either long term though. Both are gonna get mega deals when they are eligible

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I'd rather give Sanchez the mega deal. He has more upside and potential and his ego doesn't get in the way.

BramptonYute · Post #15 » by **BramptonYute** » Thu Feb 15, 2018 11:51 pm

sanchez is going to free agency, no matter what.

If I were going to move one, its Sanchez.

Quattro · Post #16 » by **Quattro** » Fri Feb 16, 2018 12:55 am

whysoserious wrote:The process is dumb to begin with but why are we fighting with one of our top pitchers for $400k?

Cause we’re a 2 bit nickel and dime organization?

So_Fresh · Post #17 » by **So_Fresh** » Fri Feb 16, 2018 1:01 am

Quattro wrote:
whysoserious wrote:The process is dumb to begin with but why are we fighting with one of our top pitchers for $400k?

Cause we’re a 2 bit nickel and dime organization?

Couldn't they just have met half way?? Give the man an extra $200K and be done with it. Tightfisted Rogers.. :nonono:

SharoneWright · Post #18 » by **SharoneWright** » Fri Feb 16, 2018 1:09 am

Dude makes more in a year than any of us make in a lifetime. Bad optics to complain about your bruised feelings as a privileged gazillionaire when the news of the day involves real human tragedy and pain.
#HeightDoesntMeasurePerspective

Scott Hall · Post #19 » by **Scott Hall** » Fri Feb 16, 2018 1:25 am

Lateral Quicks wrote:Stroman is like Bautista for me - like the performance, not too fond of the personality.

I met Stroman a couple of years ago found him really rude and unlikable

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whysoserious · Post #20 » by **whysoserious** » Fri Feb 16, 2018 1:03 pm

Schad wrote:
whysoserious wrote:The process is dumb to begin with but why are we fighting with one of our top pitchers for $400k?

Have to draw the line somewhere, and this silliness is mostly on Stroman. That said, Stroman's arb request was below his projection, so I'd have been more willing to settle with him than if he had asked for the moon.

Stroman def has some reactionary stuff on Twitter and social media. And I get drawing the line somewhere, but it seems a bit ridiculous that you're willing to pay one of your best young guys 6.5 million, he's asking for 6.9 million and you can't work out 400k before going to arbitration.