Josh Donaldson traded to [the Indians] for something because Passan says so

[SharoneWright]

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So it's actually a 1-limbed pitcher... and it's the pitching-limb that's damaged.

[sule]

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So it's actually a 1-limbed pitcher... and it's the pitching-limb that's damaged.

26-years old to boot. lmao...

a 26 year old 1-armed prospect who's likely as broken as the guy we traded him for.

Dat farm system FTW

[Scott Hall]

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[JaysRule15]

Man, can someone just explain why we didn't offer JD a QA at the end of the season and bring him back on a one year deal (if he accepted). Could've flipped him at the deadline next year if he was healthy. If he didn't take the QA, then we got a pick this offseason.

Why the rush to push him out for scraps? Was Rogers just trying to save the $18 mill or whatever the QA would've cost?

[Tanner]

Man, can someone just explain why we didn't offer JD a QA at the end of the season and bring him back on a one year deal (if he accepted). Could've flipped him at the deadline next year if he was healthy. If he didn't take the QA, then we got a pick this offseason.

Why the rush to push him out for scraps? Was Rogers just trying to save the $18 mill or whatever the QA would've cost?

The Jays are retooling in 2019 so having Jd at $18-20m essentially means nothing. He’d be blocking someone who may have long term value to the team (Drury, others), will prevent the team from using the QO money to possibly sign/trade for long term help (ex if they wanted to add salary in a trade), and no lock they could have flipped him next year for anything better considering his injuries this year.

Plus JD has a history of having beef with front offices. There’s probably more to this story that we don’t know about.

[johanliebert]

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To sell tickets..or mediocrity as he put it lmao.

These local journalists talk like they have front office experience. Why would a company nit want to bank on the great attendance they had in those years do these guys ever consider the business aspect?

Too many journalists in this city speak on things above their pay grade quite often. Whether it’s about the moves aa made or shatkins recent decisions.

[metafisical]

So the Jay's tried to compete this season or extract as much ticket revenue as possible this season (or both or neither). Wait until they see ticket revenue next season. The only saving grace will be Guerrero Jr.

Oh well...at least we will have a smaller payroll. Yay for Rogers?

[polo007]

Rumor is that Donaldson had a ruptured calf muscle but haven't seen any tweets and what not about it.

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[Mehar]

Talk about bad asset management. When the Cardinals were dangling a couple of their top prospects as rumoured last winter, i was saying that it was the time to get a good return for Donaldson. However, this ownership was thinking purely about 2018, and it bit them. Absolutely awful that we have so little to show for a former MVP.

[hst420]

If they were really serious about competing in 18' with Donaldson on a short least, they sure showed it when they acquired Jaime Garcia...

[polo007]

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Really, for both sides, this needed to happen, as difficult as it is to imagine saying that given where things stood even in the spring, when the sides earnestly discussed a contract extension.

But trading the star third baseman and cash – $2.7 million according to Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic, to cover most of the remaining $3.7 million he’s still owed this year – to the Cleveland Indians, who visit Toronto next week, of all places?

Even the New York Yankees would have been a more palatable destination to send a player who earned a spot in franchise lore with an MVP season in 2015 and a return to the playoffs. In a short burst, he performed at as high a level as any player the Blue Jays have ever had.

So, yeah, this isn’t going to sit well with disgruntled and disappointed fans, even if the player to be named later was described by an industry source as someone Cleveland valued. Reports suggested the player will be right-hander Julian Merryweather, a 26-year-old who had Tommy John surgery in the spring but has arm strength and reached triple-A last year.

It’s something, and it almost was nothing.

But is it better than the compensatory draft pick in the 75-80 range the Blue Jays would have received had they extended Donaldson a qualifying offer as he enters a free agency? And is it better than the possibility Donaldson accepted a qualifying offer (something he’s no longer eligible for, allowing him to enter the market untethered) of roughly around $18 million and returned for another season?

That the last possibility was considered a risk, rather than a happy outcome, speaks to the deterioration of a relationship that started with so much promise but devolved due to disappointments and frustrations, on both sides.

[Natural11]

It's a poor case of asset management when you have to pay to get rid of a former MVP for the infamous PTBNL. Shockingly bad.

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So the Jay's tried to compete this season or extract as much ticket revenue as possible this season (or both or neither). Wait until they see ticket revenue next season. The only saving grace will be Guerrero Jr.

Oh well...at least we will have a smaller payroll. Yay for Rogers?

Actually, Vlad (and Bo and others) are more than saving grace for ticket buying, they are players I will pay to watch. That's one of the better parts of rebuilding. You know the team isn't contending, but you are excited to see them grow. I remember as a Raptors season seat holder from way back, going to the games in the Dark Times of the Babcock era. Watching the young Bosh grow into a legit top 20 player, watching other young talent improve as the season went along, was worth the price of admission, even though it meant a lot of growing pains. As the Maple Leafs started turning over the roster with high end young talent, winning wasn't expected by fans were definitely more intrigued with them, watching them on ice with every shift, than they were with veterans like (cough, cough) David Clarkson (whom they ultimately traded for a player who they knew would never play another game in the NHL).

[So_Fresh]

I'd love to hear Blair's reaction to the trade on Monday. lol.

[Fairview4Life]

I'd love to hear Blair's reaction to the trade on Monday. lol.

“Hoping he’d get more at the deadline but injuries killed his value.”

They’ve already been going on about how going for the WC this year was a good risk.

[So_Fresh]

this is what i don't **** understand. Why was it a good risk to go for it this season? We were one of the oldest teams in baseball before the start of this season. With Boston and NY having a superior team in all areas like pitching, hitting and fielding. This organization is delusional. **** them.

[Fairview4Life]

this is what i don't **** understand. Why was it a good risk to go for it this season? We were one of the oldest teams in baseball before the start of this season. With Boston and NY having a superior team in all areas like pitching, hitting and fielding. This organization is delusional. **** them.

Basically the story was that there was enough talent to compete for WC#2 without signing anyone big and without hurting the farm. So we could have it both ways by stealth rebuilding on the fly. And then if it didn’t work we’d be able to move our big names like Donaldson at the deadline to push the rebuild, or if it did work we’d have another exciting September. But that would have required everything to go right to compete, which is only a thing that happens to the Royals, and then guys like Donaldson and Osuna to not have their value go into the tank before August. Which obviously didn’t happen. So we’re in the worst case scenario, which was probably the second most likely scenario ahead of actually competing.

The worst case scenario also isn’t terrible. Still have a bunch of good prospects, just couldn’t get more for Donaldson or Osuna.

[Lateral Quicks]

Rumor is that Donaldson had a ruptured calf muscle but haven't seen any tweets and what not about it.

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Wow, great job by the "High Performance Department"! What was their treatment regimen - daily rack stretching followed by leeching blood? Sure would explain why seemingly every time a player looks the wrong way they're out a month.

If this is true, heads need to roll. It will have lead to giving up a recent MVP-calibre player for literally pennies on the dollar, which will make a big difference in terms of how quickly this team returns to contender status.

[KL78192020]

lol wow, what a waste. Shatkins helping they're old team.

[manjusaka]

wondering how Donaldson suffered the calf injuries, he injured his right calf at the beginning of the last season and the left calf this season.