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Re: Spring Training 

Post#41 » by The_Hater » Wed Feb 27, 2019 7:01 pm

bobbyp3588 wrote:I was excited when we first got Tulo. I shouldn't have been. His best days were already behind him, or perhaps only to be found at altitude.



It did happen rather quickly, he was a 30 year old superstar on a HOF path right up to the point the Jays acquired him. He was also coming off his best season, .340 with a 170 OPS+.

Kudos to the Rockies for trading him at the perfect moment.

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Great player?? surely not in Toronto. Coors Field helped him in Colorado. Injuries hurt him, but for the amount of money and injuries this guy has made over his career he is surely overrated.



IF you think he was anything less than a great player in Colorado, I don't know what to say. Park effect or not, he was on a HOF path up to the moment the Jays acquired him. A two-way SS with power. Injuries derailed his career, not switching ballparks. He wasn't fully healthy during 2015 when the Jays first acquired him and it only got worse from there.

It's unfortunate that Jay's fans never got to see Tulo at his peak but that doesn't mean it didn't happen.
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Re: Spring Training 

Post#42 » by Schad » Wed Feb 27, 2019 8:51 pm

The_Hater wrote:
It did happen rather quickly, he was a 30 year old superstar on a HOF path right up to the point the Jays acquired him. He was also coming off his best season, .340 with a 170 OPS+.

Kudos to the Rockies for trading him at the perfect moment.


He was also a 30 year old superstar in the midst of a bad season when we traded for him, with a rich history of lower body injuries...they definitely chose the right moment, but the warning signs were there from the Jays' perspective.
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Re: Spring Training 

Post#43 » by The_Hater » Wed Feb 27, 2019 8:55 pm

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It did happen rather quickly, he was a 30 year old superstar on a HOF path right up to the point the Jays acquired him. He was also coming off his best season, .340 with a 170 OPS+.

Kudos to the Rockies for trading him at the perfect moment.


He was also a 30 year old superstar in the midst of a bad season when we traded for him, with a rich history of lower body injuries...they definitely chose the right moment, but the warning signs were there from the Jays' perspective.


True, I'm not sure it was really a bad season as much as a down half season at that moment in time. It was just a half season removed from his career year.

Obviously Colorado decided that it was the beginning of the end, AA decided that it was the window needed to acquire a superstar level SS and one of those 2 parties ended up being dead wrong. Or worse than dead wrong since Tulo barely played.
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Re: Spring Training 

Post#44 » by Schad » Wed Feb 27, 2019 8:59 pm

Yeah, as with a lot of AA's moves, I suspect that one fell into the category of "good for this year/maybe next, someone else's problem thereafter". Tulo was going to break down; guys with the sorts of chronic injuries he had almost always do. But by that point, I suspect that AA was already considering his options, given that our search for a new president was well underway.
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Re: Spring Training 

Post#45 » by bluerap23 » Wed Feb 27, 2019 9:52 pm

Tulo trade sparked our win streak and lead to most exciting run since World Series. AA knew what he was doing. Terrible long term, but exactly what was expected.
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Re: Spring Training 

Post#46 » by elmer_yuck » Thu Feb 28, 2019 6:11 pm

Where is the best place to see discussion about the Jays?
It doesn't seem to be RealGM. Not much activity here.
Is it Reddit? Someplace else?
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Re: Spring Training 

Post#47 » by Fairview4Life » Thu Feb 28, 2019 8:48 pm

elmer_yuck wrote:Where is the best place to see discussion about the Jays?
It doesn't seem to be RealGM. Not much activity here.
Is it Reddit? Someplace else?


Yeah man, it's somewhere else. Please go.
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Re: Spring Training 

Post#48 » by elmer_yuck » Thu Feb 28, 2019 9:47 pm

Fairview4Life wrote:
elmer_yuck wrote:Where is the best place to see discussion about the Jays?
It doesn't seem to be RealGM. Not much activity here.
Is it Reddit? Someplace else?


Yeah man, it's somewhere else. Please go.


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Re: Spring Training 

Post#49 » by wamco » Thu Feb 28, 2019 10:20 pm

This forum is quality over quantity . I lurk more than I post. I love it here. Kudos to schad. Well moderated. I wish it would merge with prosportsdaily.com messageboard. Would create interesting contrarian viewpoints. Reddit is fine if simplistic. Blue jays messageboard.com is toxic
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Re: Spring Training 

Post#50 » by Wo1verine » Thu Feb 28, 2019 10:24 pm

elmer_yuck wrote:
Fairview4Life wrote:
elmer_yuck wrote:Where is the best place to see discussion about the Jays?
It doesn't seem to be RealGM. Not much activity here.
Is it Reddit? Someplace else?


Yeah man, it's somewhere else. Please go.


Are you having a bad day?

The Trudeau scandal has him upset :P
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Re: Spring Training 

Post#51 » by elmer_yuck » Thu Feb 28, 2019 10:44 pm

Wo1verine wrote:
elmer_yuck wrote:
Fairview4Life wrote:
Yeah man, it's somewhere else. Please go.


Are you having a bad day?

The Trudeau scandal has him upset :P


Well, he did give me half the information I asked for.
Apparently the active Jays board is somewhere else.
Now if I can just somehow get him to tell me where that is.
Best to ask him on a day when he's not so cranky.
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Re: Spring Training 

Post#52 » by So_Fresh » Thu Feb 28, 2019 11:00 pm

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Re: Spring Training 

Post#53 » by dagger » Thu Feb 28, 2019 11:54 pm

Clay Buchholz a Jay? Apparently.


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Re: Spring Training 

Post#54 » by wamco » Fri Mar 1, 2019 12:20 am

I posted a complimentary post about this site, where did it go?
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Re: Spring Training 

Post#55 » by wamco » Fri Mar 1, 2019 12:21 am

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Re: Spring Training 

Post#56 » by Fairview4Life » Fri Mar 1, 2019 1:50 am

elmer_yuck wrote:
Fairview4Life wrote:
elmer_yuck wrote:Where is the best place to see discussion about the Jays?
It doesn't seem to be RealGM. Not much activity here.
Is it Reddit? Someplace else?


Yeah man, it's somewhere else. Please go.


Are you having a bad day?


"Hey this place sucks, where else should I go?" FOH. Anywhere else would be preferable.
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Re: Spring Training 

Post#57 » by elmer_yuck » Fri Mar 1, 2019 3:45 am

It just seemed there wasn’t much jays activity on realgm, so I wondered if there was another place that had more activity. I’m not complaining about the posters here, they’re usually interesting and knowledgeable. Except for you.
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Re: Spring Training 

Post#58 » by Schad » Fri Mar 1, 2019 4:05 am

Message boards in general aren't spectacularly busy in the year 2019, and for something as atomized as sports fandom, it's even slower. If you're looking for activity, this appears to be the busiest:

https://www.bluejaysmessageboard.com/forums/2-Toronto-Blue-Jays-Forum

I know precisely nothing about it, having just discovered it via Google search, but YMMV.
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Re: Spring Training 

Post#59 » by Black Watch » Fri Mar 1, 2019 8:19 am

elmer_yuck wrote:Where is the best place to see discussion about the Jays?
It doesn't seem to be RealGM. Not much activity here.
Is it Reddit? Someplace else?

www.bluejaysmessageboard.com

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Re: Spring Training 

Post#60 » by Black Watch » Fri Mar 1, 2019 8:20 am

Schad wrote:Message boards in general aren't spectacularly busy in the year 2019

After having been replaced with the echo chambers of Twitter and Facebook
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