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BREAKING from Jeff Passan - Rays to explore playing summer games in Montreal

Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 5:38 pm
by dagger
MLB has green lighted this - Rays would open season in Tampa Bay, play summer-onward games in Montreal.

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/27016429/sources-rays-explore-playing-montreal

The Tampa Bay Rays received permission from Major League Baseball's executive council to explore a plan in which they would play early-season home games in the Tampa Bay area and the remainder of the year in Montreal, sources familiar with the situation told ESPN.

While the plan is in its nascent stages, the Rays have embraced the two-city solution as the most feasible to saving baseball in the Tampa Bay area after years of failed attempts to build a new stadium in the region, according to sources.

The return of baseball to Montreal, which lost the Expos when they moved to Washington, D.C., and became the Nationals before the 2005 season, has long been speculated and has significant support among power brokers in the city, including Stephen Bronfman, the private-equity magnate whose father, Charles, was the Expos' original owner.

Under the plan, the Rays would play in new stadiums in both the Tampa Bay area and Montreal, according to sources. The ability to play games early in the season in Florida would preclude the need for a domed stadium, cutting the cost of a new building. A month ago, Bronfman -- who along with Montreal businessman Mitch Garber has expressed interest in taking a minority stake in the Rays alongside owner Stuart Sternberg -- reached an agreement with a developer on a site in Montreal's Point-Saint-Charles neighborhood to potentially build a new stadium. The number of home games each city would receive has not been determined, according to sources.

Significant hurdles remain for the plan to take root, sources said. Though two cities sharing a team isn't entirely novel -- the Expos played 22 home games in Puerto Rico in 2003, and Kansas City and Omaha split home games with the NBA's Kings in the 1970s -- the viability of long-term success remains in question.

MLB's executive council, which includes Sternberg, nevertheless gave the Rays permission to explore the sister-city possibility during owners' meetings Wednesday and Thursday, according to sources. For more than a decade, the Rays have sought to build a new stadium in Tampa or St. Petersburg, Fla., where they currently play at Tropicana Field. Their lease runs through 2027, and a Tampa Bay-Montreal dual-city plan would necessitate finding a stadium site in Florida as well. The timetable for any potential move likely depends on whether the Rays can strike a deal in the Tampa Bay area for a new stadium, according to sources.

The Rays average attendance of 14,546 is the second lowest in MLB despite a 43-31 record. Their opening-day payroll of around $65 million was among the lowest in baseball. Among the difficulty in securing a new stadium, a paucity of local revenue and a poor local-television deal, the Rays have been seen by other cities as a target for relocation -- a possibility, should the Tampa Bay-Montreal plan fail.

A deal with Montreal would keep the Rays in Florida while potentially adding significant revenues to the franchise. Montreal offers a robust corporate base for sponsorships and a fervent fan base that could easily support what would amount to a half-season ticket plan. Other teams could object to the Rays occupying two geographical territories, though the support of the executive council to explore the possibility, sources said, constituted a significant step forward.

It is too early in the process, sources said, to answer other questions, such as the name of the team or where playoff games would be held.

Re: BREAKING from Jeff Passan - Rays to explore playing summer games in Montreal

Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 5:41 pm
by TheDoctor
What the what? Crazy but cool half step.

Re: BREAKING from Jeff Passan - Rays to explore playing summer games in Montreal

Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 5:44 pm
by BigLeagueChew
Tampa Expos.

Re: BREAKING from Jeff Passan - Rays to explore playing summer games in Montreal

Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 5:55 pm
by Ado05
Just cut the bull and move the team to Montreal full time.

Re: BREAKING from Jeff Passan - Rays to explore playing summer games in Montreal

Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 6:05 pm
by dagger
The Rays are saying this would be a long-term plan - given their leasing arrangement in Tampa Bay, so unlikely to happen in 2020.

Re: BREAKING from Jeff Passan - Rays to explore playing summer games in Montreal

Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 6:08 pm
by duppyy
Who gets the playoff games is the big question.

Re: BREAKING from Jeff Passan - Rays to explore playing summer games in Montreal

Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 6:54 pm
by Dr Positivity
They can't just combine Tampa and Miami? Miami has the retractable roof already

Re: BREAKING from Jeff Passan - Rays to explore playing summer games in Montreal

Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 7:09 pm
by JN
Not sure what to think.

The two-city solution just does not make sense on a long term basis. This could be Tampa's solution to slowly moving it to Montreal / test Montreal fans and investment capailities.

Re: BREAKING from Jeff Passan - Rays to explore playing summer games in Montreal

Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 7:29 pm
by polo007
Read on Twitter

Re: BREAKING from Jeff Passan - Rays to explore playing summer games in Montreal

Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 7:46 pm
by Schad
Both TB and Montreal should drop close to $1b to build new stadia for half a baseball team? Madness.

Re: BREAKING from Jeff Passan - Rays to explore playing summer games in Montreal

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 8:28 pm
by gundysmullet
BigLeagueChew wrote:Tampa Expos.


Tampreal Exrays

Re: BREAKING from Jeff Passan - Rays to explore playing summer games in Montreal

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 8:47 pm
by Brinbe
Lmfao dumb. Just move to a better market

Re: BREAKING from Jeff Passan - Rays to explore playing summer games in Montreal

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 9:14 pm
by Skin Blues
Brinbe wrote:Lmfao dumb. Just move to a better market

It's just a way to threaten the taxpayers to fund a new stadium in order to keep the team in the city. St. Petersburg has a contract to be the sole location of Rays home games through the end of the 2027 season so unless they for some reason allow MLB to schedule half their games in another city country, it's not gonna happen. The mayor came out today to say that he won't even bring it to city council for a vote, and without that, the St Pete keeps the team for another 7+ years.

TL;DR Montreal is being used to make St Pete taxpayers worried and fund a new stadium. Mayor called them on their BS.

Re: BREAKING from Jeff Passan - Rays to explore playing summer games in Montreal

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 9:17 pm
by Brinbe
Skin Blues wrote:
Brinbe wrote:Lmfao dumb. Just move to a better market

It's just a way to threaten the taxpayers to fund a new stadium in order to keep the team in the city. St. Petersburg has a contract to be the sole location of Rays home games through the end of the 2027 season so unless they for some reason allow MLB to schedule half their games in another city country, it's not gonna happen. The mayor came out today to say that he won't even bring it to city council for a vote, and without that, the St Pete keeps the team for another 7+ years.

TL;DR Montreal is being used to make St Pete taxpayers worried and fund a new stadium. Mayor called them on their BS.

Total waste of tax payer money.

Re: BREAKING from Jeff Passan - Rays to explore playing summer games in Montreal

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 9:26 pm
by Schad
All stadiums are a total waste of taxpayer money. There is no rational reason why public funds should be devoted to projects that solely enrich wealthy owners, and there has never been any proof that swanky stadiums significantly boost public coffers.

But, I mean...a taxpayer-funded stadium in St. Pete would be the wastiest of all wastes. They could open the new Tampa Strippers And Go-Karts Raysporium and still draw only 8k a night.

Re: BREAKING from Jeff Passan - Rays to explore playing summer games in Montreal

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2019 2:09 pm
by I_Like_Dirt
Schad wrote:They could open the new Tampa Strippers And Go-Karts Raysporium and still draw only 8k a night.


To be fair, as I understand it, there are strippers and go-karts just outside the backyards of everyone in Tampa anyway. Plus, they don't have to spend to get in, don't have to travel and can bring their guns if they want (hint: they want). That's a tough market to try to break into.