Jays acquire Jose Berrios from Twins for Austin Martin, Simeon Woods-Richardson

[Cyrus]

After 1 start this is the right move

He didn’t even pitch that great, got hit early, had some control issues. That’s how good this guys stuff is.

I have no problem with this trade. You can’t hold onto all your prospects and if you’re going to trade good ones, do it for quality starting pitching.

To me he is basically Marcus Stroman, without may be the off field/twitter stuff, marcus comes to free agency one year earlier than he does. But essentially the same kind of pitcher/upside, maybe a bit more durable.

[anj]

After 1 start this is the right move

He didn’t even pitch that great, got hit early, had some control issues. That’s how good this guys stuff is.

I have no problem with this trade. You can’t hold onto all your prospects and if you’re going to trade good ones, do it for quality starting pitching.

To me he is basically Marcus Stroman, without may be the off field/twitter stuff, marcus comes to free agency one year earlier than he does. But essentially the same kind of pitcher/upside, maybe a bit more durable.

The bolded is a massive difference-maker. Berrios is 3 years younger too.

[The_Hater]

After 1 start this is the right move

He didn’t even pitch that great, got hit early, had some control issues. That’s how good this guys stuff is.

I have no problem with this trade. You can’t hold onto all your prospects and if you’re going to trade good ones, do it for quality starting pitching.

To me he is basically Marcus Stroman, without may be the off field/twitter stuff, marcus comes to free agency one year earlier than he does. But essentially the same kind of pitcher/upside, maybe a bit more durable.

More durable, less vocal. But also more consistent, Stroman has some really bad seasons on his resume.

[-MetA4-]

To me he is basically Marcus Stroman, without may be the off field/twitter stuff, marcus comes to free agency one year earlier than he does. But essentially the same kind of pitcher/upside, maybe a bit more durable.

His upside is higher than Stroman's because he misses more bats and is less reliant on defense/luck on balls put in play. He averages basically 2 whole strikeouts more per 9 innings.

[Vampirate]

After 1 start this is the right move

He didn’t even pitch that great, got hit early, had some control issues. That’s how good this guys stuff is.

I have no problem with this trade. You can’t hold onto all your prospects and if you’re going to trade good ones, do it for quality starting pitching.

To me he is basically Marcus Stroman, without may be the off field/twitter stuff, marcus comes to free agency one year earlier than he does. But essentially the same kind of pitcher/upside, maybe a bit more durable.

Look at the stats, he's better than Stroman.

He strikes out a batter an inning and gives up less hits than Stroman does. The only concern is his higher HR rate than Stroman as I think he's a flyball type pitcher.

Also keep in mind park factors as well.

[Cyrus]

Man we got off Austin Martin at the right time, thought this guy would be playing with Twins by now, or atleast on Triple A team, and he's fallen off so much, he's gone back to rookie ball to no doubt rebuild his confidence, and swing.

This was supposed consensus #1 pick that fell to #5

[T-d0t]

Man we got off Austin Martin at the right time, thought this guy would be playing with Twins by now, or atleast on Triple A team, and he's fallen off so much, he's gone back to rookie ball to no doubt rebuild his confidence, and swing.

This was supposed consensus #1 pick that fell to #5

Don't forget SWR.

I remember thinking it was crazy Martin fell and then thought we were crazy trading him for Berrios.

Berrios turning the corner this season makes this trade look pretty one-sided so far

[Cyrus]

Man we got off Austin Martin at the right time, thought this guy would be playing with Twins by now, or atleast on Triple A team, and he's fallen off so much, he's gone back to rookie ball to no doubt rebuild his confidence, and swing.

This was supposed consensus #1 pick that fell to #5

Don't forget SWR.

I remember thinking it was crazy Martin fell and then thought we were crazy trading him for Berrios.

Berrios turning the corner this season makes this trade look pretty one-sided so far

Yeah SWR is on the cusp, atleast he's between triple A and big club kind of like Pearson. But yeah everyone including me based on last year wanted this deal reversed.

But atleast for once we sold high on a prospect/player.

[dagger]

Man we got off Austin Martin at the right time, thought this guy would be playing with Twins by now, or atleast on Triple A team, and he's fallen off so much, he's gone back to rookie ball to no doubt rebuild his confidence, and swing.

This was supposed consensus #1 pick that fell to #5

Don't forget SWR.

I remember thinking it was crazy Martin fell and then thought we were crazy trading him for Berrios.

Berrios turning the corner this season makes this trade look pretty one-sided so far

Yeah SWR is on the cusp, atleast he's between triple A and big club kind of like Pearson. But yeah everyone including me based on last year wanted this deal reversed.

But at least for once we sold high on a prospect/player.

We did the same with Gunnar Hoglund, he's struggling in Low A.

Same Taylor and Max Castillo got the Jays Whit Merrifield, and right now neither prospect is killing it although Taylor is up and down from AAA to the MLB,. Both may yet contribute as MLB regulars, but the Jays have gotten great value this year from Whit.