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Re: Toronto Blue Jays (54-43) at Toronto Blue Jays Gift Shop (48-48), July 21-23 

Post#121 » by Randle McMurphy » Sat Jul 22, 2023 10:51 pm

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Fairview4Life wrote:It is super annoying we can’t have everything working on the same **** day.

They’re just a decent but flawed baseball team in the end, one that hasn’t really put it all together through 4 months now and probably won’t. Could very well still make the the playoffs because there are a lot of other flawed teams near the same position but I expected better out of this group than this.


I fully expect them to make the playoffs and get Schneidered at some point. But I would also like the regular season to be significantly less frustrating. Just mash some dingers and play some D my guys, let me grill in peace.

Less stupid baserunning all over the field would be nice too.
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Post#122 » by Fairview4Life » Sat Jul 22, 2023 10:53 pm

That’s why I demand dingers. Hard to **** that up.
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Re: Toronto Blue Jays (54-43) at Toronto Blue Jays Gift Shop (48-48), July 21-23 

Post#123 » by Randle McMurphy » Sat Jul 22, 2023 11:01 pm

Why are we pinch running one of our better hitters instead of someone else? Especially when Biggio is still hitting here?

Also where is Jansen in this spot??
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Re: Toronto Blue Jays (54-43) at Toronto Blue Jays Gift Shop (48-48), July 21-23 

Post#124 » by SharoneWright » Sat Jul 22, 2023 11:02 pm

Biggio our saviour!
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Re: Toronto Blue Jays (54-43) at Toronto Blue Jays Gift Shop (48-48), July 21-23 

Post#125 » by Fairview4Life » Sat Jul 22, 2023 11:02 pm

Lol. I always believed in you Cavan.
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Re: Toronto Blue Jays (54-43) at Toronto Blue Jays Gift Shop (48-48), July 21-23 

Post#126 » by SharoneWright » Sat Jul 22, 2023 11:03 pm

You must send him there!!!


Certainly a better chance than 0.267.
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Re: Toronto Blue Jays (54-43) at Toronto Blue Jays Gift Shop (48-48), July 21-23 

Post#127 » by Schad » Sat Jul 22, 2023 11:03 pm

Given that Biggio struggles against high heat, I fully approve of throwing him a low-in-zone breaking pitch there.
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Re: Toronto Blue Jays (54-43) at Toronto Blue Jays Gift Shop (48-48), July 21-23 

Post#128 » by Randle McMurphy » Sat Jul 22, 2023 11:03 pm

No Jansen, our clutchest hitter, for either Biggio or Kiermaier was sure something. And by something, I mean incredibly dumb.
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Re: Toronto Blue Jays (54-43) at Toronto Blue Jays Gift Shop (48-48), July 21-23 

Post#129 » by Randle McMurphy » Sat Jul 22, 2023 11:05 pm

Gotta rest Jansen for tomorrow’s Manoah start. That explains it, I’m sure.

This is not a serious team.
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Post#130 » by Schad » Sat Jul 22, 2023 11:06 pm

We were undone by Topa's lack of foot-eye coordination. If he successfully kicks that it's a tie game.
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Post#131 » by SharoneWright » Sat Jul 22, 2023 11:07 pm

Schad wrote:We were undone by Topa's lack of foot-eye coordination. If he successfully kicks that it's a tie game.


Or if Chapman takes second base on the off-line throw home trying to get Vladimir
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Post#132 » by TOStateofMind » Sat Jul 22, 2023 11:14 pm

Better this way than to lose on a cal raleigh walkoff hr in extras lol
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Post#133 » by HangTime » Sat Jul 22, 2023 11:14 pm

Why is Jay Jackson used in low leverage situations?
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Post#134 » by Schad » Sat Jul 22, 2023 11:17 pm

HangTime wrote:Why is Jay Jackson used in low leverage situations?


He's a 35 year old career minor leaguer who has pitched 11 really good innings. His track record (or complete lack thereof) makes him pretty dangerous to trust in high leverage.
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Re: Toronto Blue Jays (54-43) at Toronto Blue Jays Gift Shop (48-48), July 21-23 

Post#135 » by PowerPlant1 » Sun Jul 23, 2023 2:13 am

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HangTime wrote:Why is Jay Jackson used in low leverage situations?


He's a 35 year old career minor leaguer who has pitched 11 really good innings. His track record (or complete lack thereof) makes him pretty dangerous to trust in high leverage.


Unfortunately, when a team needlessly uses Richards, Swanson and Romano in game 1 then there are less arms to go to in game 2.

Pearson had been struggling recently and Garcia has not been trustworthy in high leverage all season. Yet Schneider again goes to them.

At this point, I would have at least tried Jackson first on a short leash and by the way, where is Mayza? Had Schneider just forgot about him?

Also, I can't see this team making the playoffs unless the BP, SP and offense improves. Houston, Baltimore and Tampa are all too good.
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Post#136 » by ItsDanger » Sun Jul 23, 2023 2:26 am

Another questionable pitching change decision by Schneider. A continuing pattern.
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Re: Toronto Blue Jays (54-43) at Toronto Blue Jays Gift Shop (48-48), July 21-23 

Post#138 » by Mehar » Sun Jul 23, 2023 5:35 pm

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HangTime wrote:Why is Jay Jackson used in low leverage situations?


He's a 35 year old career minor leaguer who has pitched 11 really good innings. His track record (or complete lack thereof) makes him pretty dangerous to trust in high leverage.


Also, I can't see this team making the playoffs unless the BP, SP and offense improves. Houston, Baltimore and Tampa are all too good.


After a loss today with Manoah on the mound, there will be 3 games with the Dodgers. Then there is a homestand with the Orioles in town along with the Angels, before this team heads to Fenway where they have lost every game to the Red Sox this season. I just do not see this team being in a playoff position, and they will probably be out if it after they return home with Boston 2 games back with how well the Dodgers are playing. Boston will eventually overtake us for good, with the soft schedule they have in August when they have bottom feeders like the Royals, Tigers, and Nationals to beat up on.

This team has brought Seattle back to WC contention by blowing the first two games. This is a flawed baseball team as we seen all year with a poor manager, and ownership should make the rational decision after this off-season if after 8 seasons- Ross Atkins and Shapiro deserve a 9th year? Zero Playoff wins under their regime. An underwhelming farm system. Back to back incompetent managers hired with Montoyo and Schneider, with the 7th highest payroll in MLB. Montoyo and Schneider would not be hired managers in any other .500 or better team. Schneider would be a bench coach at best, just like how Montoyo is with the White Sox right now. If I were ownership, I have a solid candidate in James Click waiting in the wings. I would turn the keys over to him as GM if this team misses the playoffs, and let Atkins and Shapiro with their mediocre Analytics Department and Yes Men- go back to Cleveland where they came from.
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Re: Toronto Blue Jays (54-43) at Toronto Blue Jays Gift Shop (48-48), July 21-23 

Post#139 » by Schad » Sun Jul 23, 2023 5:54 pm

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Also, I can't see this team making the playoffs unless the BP, SP and offense improves. Houston, Baltimore and Tampa are all too good.


Our offense is 7th in wRC+, rotation is 7th in SIERA/ERA, bullpen is 2nd in SIERA/11th in ERA. Our odds of making the playoffs have dropped all the way to 68.7%. This team has flaws, but overall it's quite good.

Also, there are six playoff spots in the AL now: being better than the Astros, Orioles and Rays isn't even a prerequisite for making the playoffs.
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Re: Toronto Blue Jays (54-43) at Toronto Blue Jays Gift Shop (48-48), July 21-23 

Post#140 » by Mehar » Sun Jul 23, 2023 6:30 pm

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Also, I can't see this team making the playoffs unless the BP, SP and offense improves. Houston, Baltimore and Tampa are all too good.


Our offense is 7th in wRC+, rotation is 7th in SIERA/ERA, bullpen is 2nd in SIERA/11th in ERA. Our odds of making the playoffs have dropped all the way to 68.7%. This team has flaws, but overall it's quite good.

Also, there are six playoff spots in the AL now: being better than the Astros, Orioles and Rays isn't even a prerequisite for making the playoffs.


That is true. However- Boston, Seattle, New York, and the Jays will be fighting for one spot most likely. Yankees (who have been decimated with injuries all year) and the Red Sox are just two games back of the Jays. With the struggles by the Jays all year against its own division rivals and teams over .500, I just do not see this team being there in the end. All these stats and odds might look good on paper, but the reality is this team has been underwhelming offensively (especially with RISP) with a bullpen that is overworked, and still needs another high leverage reliever or two. The Jays has struggled mightily against the better teams of baseball, and this team's schedule is a lot tougher and filled with over .500 teams in the next 4-5 weeks.

With the return of Judge in the next 10-14 days who is taking live batting practice now, and the Yankees getting back Cortes and Loaisiga back in August, including even Montas- they will be a different team next month. Boston has a soft schedule in August where they could beat up on the Royals, Nationals, and Tigers and have won every game against Toronto this year. Unless the Jays hitters can magically start to hit much better they have all year (including bottom of the order guys like Varsho), this team will probably be in the outside looking in. Might not be a bad thing if no post-season berth, means the end of the 8 year tenure of Zero Playoff Wins of Ross Atkins and Mark Shapiro.

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