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Guardians (43-23) vs Blue Jays (33-35)
Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2024 11:30 pm
by Hottie McShotty
Discuss..
Re: Guardians (43-23) vs Blue Jays (33-35)
Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2024 11:34 pm
by Lateral Quicks
Unless Horwitz is dead or his arm was amputated, there is no reason for him not to be in today's lineup.
Maybe he needed some extra work with Guillermo today. Guillermo can't like that he's hitting so well...
Re: Guardians (43-23) vs Blue Jays (33-35)
Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2024 11:36 pm
by JN
Lateral Quicks wrote:Unless Horwitz is dead or his arm was amputated, there is no reason for him not to be in today's lineup.
Maybe he needed some extra work with Guillermo today. Guillermo can't like that he's hitting so well...
I'm OK with sitting him against a lefty. There will be a point later in the game where we can him bring in to replace somebody and it may be a key one.
Hopefully he is hiding from Guillermo.
Re: Guardians (43-23) vs Blue Jays (33-35)
Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2024 11:39 pm
by Randle McMurphy
This team disgusts me.
Re: Guardians (43-23) vs Blue Jays (33-35)
Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2024 11:39 pm
by Hottie McShotty
LOL, of course, IKF hits into a double play. This team just doesn't like to score any runs. I've never seen such a poor-hitting Blue Jays team, and I've been watching them for a long time now.
Re: Guardians (43-23) vs Blue Jays (33-35)
Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2024 11:41 pm
by Madvillainy2004
At this point is Orlevis a worse DH option than Turner. He's been awful since April and he's soaking up all the DH at bats. I mean if we were a bit smarter we'd have Kirk catch more and DH Jano. So at least the weak hitting player provides elite defense.
Re: Guardians (43-23) vs Blue Jays (33-35)
Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2024 11:44 pm
by Randle McMurphy
Madvillainy2004 wrote:At this point is Orlevis a worse DH option than Turner. He's been awful since April and he's soaking up all the DH at bats. I mean if we were a bit smarter we'd have Kirk catch more and DH Jano. So at least the weak hitting player provides elite defense.
Kirk/Jansen should definitely be in there every day at this point. We're also regularly playing a washed RF with a .580 OPS in mid June. Any team that cares about winning wouldn't be doing any of this.
Re: Guardians (43-23) vs Blue Jays (33-35)
Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2024 11:52 pm
by Ranger One
Randle McMurphy wrote:Madvillainy2004 wrote:At this point is Orlevis a worse DH option than Turner. He's been awful since April and he's soaking up all the DH at bats. I mean if we were a bit smarter we'd have Kirk catch more and DH Jano. So at least the weak hitting player provides elite defense.
Kirk/Jansen should definitely be in there every day at this point. We're also regularly playing a washed RF with a .580 OPS in mid June. Any team that cares about winning wouldn't be doing any of this.
We may not like it, but they are not benching a guy making 25 million a year. If he was some random bum making 3-5 mil a year he would have been out of the lineup 30 games ago. Sadly, Springers veteran experience and past accolades will keep him in the lineup even if hes hitting .100
Also, Springer provides above average defense in RF, so thats another reason hes not getting sat. Run prevention trumps all on this team.
Re: Guardians (43-23) vs Blue Jays (33-35)
Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2024 11:53 pm
by JN
Crap.... as per Dan, there were 4 players in for special early bating practice today (Schneider, Bargar, Horwitz, Clement). Guillermo indoctrination time!
Re: Guardians (43-23) vs Blue Jays (33-35)
Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2024 11:59 pm
by Hottie McShotty
Randle McMurphy wrote:Madvillainy2004 wrote:At this point is Orlevis a worse DH option than Turner. He's been awful since April and he's soaking up all the DH at bats. I mean if we were a bit smarter we'd have Kirk catch more and DH Jano. So at least the weak hitting player provides elite defense.
Kirk/Jansen should definitely be in there every day at this point. We're also regularly playing a washed RF with a .580 OPS in mid June. Any team that cares about winning wouldn't be doing any of this.
and to think we have this guy for another 2 more years.
Re: Guardians (43-23) vs Blue Jays (33-35)
Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2024 12:01 am
by Randle McMurphy
Hottie McShotty wrote:Randle McMurphy wrote:Madvillainy2004 wrote:At this point is Orlevis a worse DH option than Turner. He's been awful since April and he's soaking up all the DH at bats. I mean if we were a bit smarter we'd have Kirk catch more and DH Jano. So at least the weak hitting player provides elite defense.
Kirk/Jansen should definitely be in there every day at this point. We're also regularly playing a washed RF with a .580 OPS in mid June. Any team that cares about winning wouldn't be doing any of this.
and to think we have this guy for another 2 more years.
He'll be DFA'd long before those 2 years are up. Probably at some point next year.
Re: Guardians (43-23) vs Blue Jays (33-35)
Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2024 12:05 am
by Randle McMurphy
Ranger One wrote:Randle McMurphy wrote:Madvillainy2004 wrote:At this point is Orlevis a worse DH option than Turner. He's been awful since April and he's soaking up all the DH at bats. I mean if we were a bit smarter we'd have Kirk catch more and DH Jano. So at least the weak hitting player provides elite defense.
Kirk/Jansen should definitely be in there every day at this point. We're also regularly playing a washed RF with a .580 OPS in mid June. Any team that cares about winning wouldn't be doing any of this.
We may not like it, but they are not benching a guy making 25 million a year. If he was some random bum making 3-5 mil a year he would have been out of the lineup 30 games ago. Sadly, Springers veteran experience and past accolades will keep him in the lineup even if hes hitting .100
Also, Springer provides above average defense in RF, so thats another reason hes not getting sat. Run prevention trumps all on this team.
Re: Guardians (43-23) vs Blue Jays (33-35)
Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2024 12:10 am
by Lateral Quicks
JN wrote:Crap.... as per Dan, there were 4 players in for special early bating practice today (Schneider, Bargar, Horwitz, Clement). Guillermo indoctrination time!
Oh FFS.
Re: Guardians (43-23) vs Blue Jays (33-35)
Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2024 12:11 am
by Ranger One
Randle McMurphy wrote:Ranger One wrote:Randle McMurphy wrote:Kirk/Jansen should definitely be in there every day at this point. We're also regularly playing a washed RF with a .580 OPS in mid June. Any team that cares about winning wouldn't be doing any of this.
We may not like it, but they are not benching a guy making 25 million a year. If he was some random bum making 3-5 mil a year he would have been out of the lineup 30 games ago. Sadly, Springers veteran experience and past accolades will keep him in the lineup even if hes hitting .100
Also, Springer provides above average defense in RF, so thats another reason hes not getting sat. Run prevention trumps all on this team.
Yeah we both know this FO doesnt have the balls to do that. Christ, Springer is literally the TD mascot! As evidenced by the fact we are still subjected to his inane chair in outfield commercials 20 times a game.
Re: Guardians (43-23) vs Blue Jays (33-35)
Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2024 12:20 am
by JN
There's not much of a point in buying out George Springer right now.... we are not contending, and its not like there is significant players being held back by his playing. I'm fine with resting him more now though with Barger and Horwitz up.
In the likely scenario that we move some players at the deadline at this point, there will be even more PT around for some younger players. Springer will be fine as someone hanging around.
Hope he improves a bit, and he can fetch a little if you retain 80-90% of his contract. If not we will need some bodies anyeway.
Re: Guardians (43-23) vs Blue Jays (33-35)
Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2024 12:24 am
by Randle McMurphy
I can't fathom how anybody is still attending these games. It's difficult enough watching them on TV.
Re: Guardians (43-23) vs Blue Jays (33-35)
Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2024 12:26 am
by Hottie McShotty
Imagine being a pitcher for the Blue Jays, knowing that your offense will likely struggle to score more than 1 or 2 runs per game. Think about the pressure on you to pitch a perfect game just to have a chance to win. It must be demoralizing. I surely wouldn't want to be on a team like that.
Re: Guardians (43-23) vs Blue Jays (33-35)
Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2024 12:30 am
by Madvillainy2004
Randle McMurphy wrote:I can't fathom how anybody is still attending these games. It's difficult enough watching them on TV.
One of the most boring teams I've ever watched in any sport lol
Re: Guardians (43-23) vs Blue Jays (33-35)
Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2024 12:35 am
by Brinbe
looking like a 2 hour game tonight
Re: Guardians (43-23) vs Blue Jays (33-35)
Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2024 12:47 am
by PowerPlant1
Hottie McShotty wrote:LOL, of course, IKF hits into a double play. This team just doesn't like to score any runs. I've never seen such a poor-hitting Blue Jays team, and I've been watching them for a long time now.
Guardians 3 Bisons 1. Can we please call up more Bisons? I'd sooner see Nathan Lukes than Springer in the lineup.
IKF overall is not a problem since he is performing somewhat better than expected and has been pretty good in RISP situations. Problem is the hitting is so sparse that he is a key component on a putrid offense. IKF's OPS is 5th on the team and it is 680ish.
The problem is not IKF but rather his acquisition by a clueless general manager relying on 'internal improvements' to the offense.