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Baseball Colour Wars! Blue (Jays - 40-34) vs White (Sox - 23-52) June 20-22

Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2025 1:50 pm
by Parataxis
After a long NL odyssey, the Blue Jays return to American League competition facing off against the cellar-dwellers of the league in what could be an important weekend.

If everything breaks perfectly (a winning sweep, a Yankees losing streak, and at least one loss from Tampa) we could -somehow- be on top of the AL East by Monday morning. If things go badly, we could be out of the WC, second last in our division, and once again questioning our existence.

It'll probably be somewhere in between. Baseball is a grind.

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Probable Pitchers

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Friday June 20, 7:07 PM

Davis Martin (2-7, 3.79 ERA, 53 SO)
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Spencer Turnbull (1-0, 2.08 ERA, 2 SO)
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Saturday June 21, 3:07 PM

Aaron Civale (1-3, 4.67 ERA, 23 SO)
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Jose Berrios (2-3, 3.81 ERA, 76 SO)
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Sunday June 22, 1:37 PM

TBD
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Chris Bassitt (7-3, 3.75 ERA, 83 SO)
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Here we go!

Re: Baseball Colour Wars! Blue (Jays - 40-34) vs White (Sox - 23-52) June 20-22

Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2025 2:20 pm
by COY0607
Must sweep!

Re: Baseball Colour Wars! Blue (Jays - 40-34) vs White (Sox - 23-52) June 20-22

Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2025 10:03 pm
by Madvillainy2004
Can't wait to see Mvp candidate Kirk go back to work. 22nd in fWAR in the entire league.

Re: Baseball Colour Wars! Blue (Jays - 40-34) vs White (Sox - 23-52) June 20-22

Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2025 10:12 pm
by Randle McMurphy
Madvillainy2004 wrote:Can't wait to see Mvp candidate Kirk go back to work. 22nd in fWAR in the entire league.

They benched him today (as unserious teams do), so you won't be seeing that.

Re: Baseball Colour Wars! Blue (Jays - 40-34) vs White (Sox - 23-52) June 20-22

Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2025 11:20 pm
by SharoneWright
Imagine how overmatched Vladdy will be by fastballs in 5+ years.

Re: Baseball Colour Wars! Blue (Jays - 40-34) vs White (Sox - 23-52) June 20-22

Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2025 11:26 pm
by Randle McMurphy
Now even being exposed by the White Sox. Turnbull is no solution to any problem.

Re: Baseball Colour Wars! Blue (Jays - 40-34) vs White (Sox - 23-52) June 20-22

Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2025 11:32 pm
by COY0607
That was the weirdest AB I’ve seen from Vladdy all season

Re: Baseball Colour Wars! Blue (Jays - 40-34) vs White (Sox - 23-52) June 20-22

Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2025 11:32 pm
by Randle McMurphy
Complete and total disaster. Get an actual rotation already.

Re: Baseball Colour Wars! Blue (Jays - 40-34) vs White (Sox - 23-52) June 20-22

Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2025 11:32 pm
by Hottie McShotty
Turnbull is awful..

Re: Baseball Colour Wars! Blue (Jays - 40-34) vs White (Sox - 23-52) June 20-22

Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2025 11:37 pm
by COY0607
Hottie McShotty wrote:Turnbull is awful..


Immediate DFA

Re: Baseball Colour Wars! Blue (Jays - 40-34) vs White (Sox - 23-52) June 20-22

Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2025 11:38 pm
by JN
Predictable start for Turnbull given how he did in AAA and lower. Not good.

With the White Sox playing a double header yesterday and then a bullpen game tonight, its important we get to their staff tonight, and hopefully early -- it would make the next two games easier if we can beat up their staff tonight.

But so far its 5 up 5 down....

Re: Baseball Colour Wars! Blue (Jays - 40-34) vs White (Sox - 23-52) June 20-22

Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2025 11:43 pm
by Randle McMurphy
Send Clase down too once Varsho comes back next week. I don't know what exactly it is the Jays think he is doing for them, but he's probably our worst CF option currently on the roster right now (certainly defensively but maybe offensively too) and dropped a very catchable ball earlier.

Re: Baseball Colour Wars! Blue (Jays - 40-34) vs White (Sox - 23-52) June 20-22

Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2025 11:50 pm
by JN
Well there is $1.3 million down the drain on Turnbull (his contract of 1.3 million was guaranteed).
Not my money, but I assume the team has some sort of general budget.

Re: Baseball Colour Wars! Blue (Jays - 40-34) vs White (Sox - 23-52) June 20-22

Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2025 11:52 pm
by JN
Even if we give up 10 tonight and lose, its important we get to their tired pitchers a bit too and soften them up for game 2 and game 3.

Re: Baseball Colour Wars! Blue (Jays - 40-34) vs White (Sox - 23-52) June 20-22

Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2025 12:02 am
by JN
Randle McMurphy wrote:Send Clase down too once Varsho comes back next week. I don't know what exactly it is the Jays think he is doing for them, but he's probably our worst CF option currently on the roster right now (certainly defensively but maybe offensively too) and dropped a very catchable ball earlier.


Can Clase give us an inning tonight on the mound. Looks like we might need it.
Flurharty might be done for the series.

Maybe Green can give us 50 pitches tonight.

Re: Baseball Colour Wars! Blue (Jays - 40-34) vs White (Sox - 23-52) June 20-22

Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2025 12:02 am
by Randle McMurphy
JN wrote:Well there is $1.3 million down the drain on Turnbull (his contract of 1.3 million was guaranteed).
Not my money, but I assume the team has some sort of general budget.

Don’t forget that they decided that Yarbrough’s 2M was too much for them before the season, which led to an entire season of outings like this every week.

Fire them.

Re: Baseball Colour Wars! Blue (Jays - 40-34) vs White (Sox - 23-52) June 20-22

Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2025 12:03 am
by Randle McMurphy
JN wrote:Even if we give up 10 tonight and lose, its important we get to their tired pitchers a bit too and soften them up for game 2 and game 3.

Bigger issue is we are going to have to use our high leverage guys in this blowout just to finish the game thanks to Turnbull (and Fluharty).

Re: Baseball Colour Wars! Blue (Jays - 40-34) vs White (Sox - 23-52) June 20-22

Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2025 12:09 am
by Randle McMurphy
Straw must be pretty hurt not to be starting over Clase.

Re: Baseball Colour Wars! Blue (Jays - 40-34) vs White (Sox - 23-52) June 20-22

Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2025 12:12 am
by Randle McMurphy
That double to Barger had a .170 xBA. At least 3 runs tonight due to poor outfield defense.

MVP Varsho is much needed.

Re: Baseball Colour Wars! Blue (Jays - 40-34) vs White (Sox - 23-52) June 20-22

Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2025 12:13 am
by GoRapstheoriginal
I turned it off.