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A very depressing paragraph for Blue Jay fans.....
Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 7:35 pm
by Raptorsrock
The future never looked so bright for Boston as it did last weekend. Buchholz and Jon Lester, 23, won back-to-back starts. Jacoby Ellsbury, 23, who will take the job of Coco Crisp or J.D. Drew sooner rather than later, hit his first big-league home run while looking like Jim Edmonds in his prime -- only faster. Jonathan Papelbon, 27, chalked up his 31st save. Dustin Pedroia, 24, smacked hits all over Fenway, looking like the best-hitting rookie second baseman in history. Justin Masterson, 22, a groundball pitching machine, is a phone call away in Triple-A.
Indeed, you look at the Yankees and Red Sox these days and you see the players who will keep the rivalry hot for the next decade (sorry, Toronto, Baltimore and Tampa Bay). New York has Chien-Ming Wang, Robinson Cano, Chamberlain, Hughes, Kennedy and Alan Horne to wage war with Boston's kids. New York and Boston have moved their rivalry from the free-agent market (though that venue always will simmer) to the draft and player development.
Forget the fact the the Yanks and Sox have the highest payrolls in baseball. They also each have a stable of young studs.
Just more proof that JP has been nothing but a colossal failure in his 6 years here
Re: A very depressing paragraph for Blue Jay fans.....
Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 8:28 pm
by Holmes
The future never looked so bright for Toronto as it did last weekend. Dustin McGowan, 25, and Shawn Marcum, 26, lost back-to-back starts. Russ Adams, 27, who will take the job of John McDonald sooner rather than later, looks like Dave Berg in his prime -- only worse. Brandon League, 24, chalked up another ugly outing. Redd Johnson, 31, struck out all over Yankee Stadium, looking like the worst-hitting leadoff man in history. Ricky Romero, 23, a poise machine, is a phone call away to send back to Single-A.
Indeed, you look at the Yankees and Blue Jays these days and you see the players who will keep the rivalry hot for the next decade (sorry, Boston, Baltimore and Tampa Bay). New York has Chien-Ming Wang, Robinson Cano, Chamberlain, Hughes, Kennedy and Alan Horne to wage war with Toronto's garbage. New York has moved their one-sided rivalry from the free-agent market (though that venue always will simmer) to the draft and player development.
Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 8:41 pm
by arrpy
I remember when I first started watching the Jays, I thought JP was one of the best GM's in Baseball. When he signed AJ Burnett, I was so excited, calling JP the best GM ever. But after that season, my opinion slowly started to change, and I am now a JP hater.
Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 8:41 pm
by Mak
I don't know anything about Jon Lester but his pitching stats are not very impressive. 4.45 ERA? Is he really any better than Litsch? Our 5th starter?
Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 8:49 pm
by Geddy
Actually that paragraph doesn't worry me at all. In fact it looks like it was written with typical Yanks and Sox bias.
Even though they have those young players coming up, they still need the big time guys to get it done.
Re: A very depressing paragraph for Blue Jay fans.....
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 6:44 pm
by Griff83
Holmes wrote:The future never looked so bright for Toronto as it did last weekend. Dustin McGowan, 25, and Shawn Marcum, 26, lost back-to-back starts. Russ Adams, 27, who will take the job of John McDonald sooner rather than later, looks like Dave Berg in his prime -- only worse. Brandon League, 24, chalked up another ugly outing. Redd Johnson, 31, struck out all over Yankee Stadium, looking like the worst-hitting leadoff man in history. Ricky Romero, 23, a poise machine, is a phone call away to send back to Single-A.
Indeed, you look at the Yankees and Blue Jays these days and you see the players who will keep the rivalry hot for the next decade (sorry, Boston, Baltimore and Tampa Bay). New York has Chien-Ming Wang, Robinson Cano, Chamberlain, Hughes, Kennedy and Alan Horne to wage war with Toronto's garbage. New York has moved their one-sided rivalry from the free-agent market (though that venue always will simmer) to the draft and player development.
good stuff
Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 8:42 pm
by Mak
Don't forget , just like Yankees and Boston players their prospects are also overhyped.
Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 6:47 am
by r_gill
This is baseball, every team has good prospects. It is pretty much impossible not to. Anyway the Yankees and Red Sox have good systems, they don't just pay a lot in payroll for their big league clubs. Both also pay big time in the draft to break slot for the players other teams can't afford to sign and pay big money to sign major latin and international talents when they turn 16. Another reason why baseball has the worst system in all of sports. Saying all that I think a lot of Yankee prospects are over hyped just because they are Yankees, on any other team they would not receive as much attention. Hughes and Chamberlain are real, the rest may be good players but are way over hyped.
It doesn't take too long to overall a crappy prospect system anyway, the Yankees had a pretty bad system a few years ago. All it took was a couple of good drafts. We had one this year where Ahrens, Arencibia, Eiland, Jackson, Cecil and Tolisano all in my opinion have the talent to make the majors, but that doesn't guarantee anything of course.
Re: A very depressing paragraph for Blue Jay fans.....
Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 10:44 pm
by cb4_89
Holmes wrote:The future never looked so bright for Toronto as it did last weekend. Dustin McGowan, 25, and Shawn Marcum, 26, lost back-to-back starts. Russ Adams, 27, who will take the job of John McDonald sooner rather than later, looks like Dave Berg in his prime -- only worse. Brandon League, 24, chalked up another ugly outing. Redd Johnson, 31, struck out all over Yankee Stadium, looking like the worst-hitting leadoff man in history. Ricky Romero, 23, a poise machine, is a phone call away to send back to Single-A.
Indeed, you look at the Yankees and Blue Jays these days and you see the players who will keep the rivalry hot for the next decade (sorry, Boston, Baltimore and Tampa Bay). New York has Chien-Ming Wang, Robinson Cano, Chamberlain, Hughes, Kennedy and Alan Horne to wage war with Toronto's garbage. New York has moved their one-sided rivalry from the free-agent market (though that venue always will simmer) to the draft and player development.
I really enjoyed reading that. Great job.
Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 7:07 pm
by StringerBell
r_gill wrote:This is baseball, every team has good prospects. It is pretty much impossible not to. Anyway the Yankees and Red Sox have good systems, they don't just pay a lot in payroll for their big league clubs. Both also pay big time in the draft to break slot for the players other teams can't afford to sign and pay big money to sign major latin and international talents when they turn 16. Another reason why baseball has the worst system in all of sports. Saying all that I think a lot of Yankee prospects are over hyped just because they are Yankees, on any other team they would not receive as much attention. Hughes and Chamberlain are real, the rest may be good players but are way over hyped.
Not entirely true. Some organizations...like the Blue Jays, CHOOSE not to pursue international players...and in the Jays case, as a result are behind when it comes to scouting international players.
please take notice....
Of the Jays' 59 players at '07 major-league spring training camp, none that were born outside the USA were signed and developed by J.P. Ricciardi's regime (2001-07). Consider also that at the AAA-Syracuse and AA-New Hampshire levels in 2007