Blue Jays Answer: Manny

RaptorsBoy · Post #1 » by **RaptorsBoy** » Tue Sep 30, 2008 11:32 pm

Not only do I think that he could be signed by the Jays but so do those at SI.com
http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/66756

Ya I know there has also been talk about Giambi but if your gonna spend money they why not on someone who actually deserves it.

Mak · Post #2 » by **Mak** » Tue Sep 30, 2008 11:36 pm

Sure. Getting Manny would be nice. He would make everybody in our line up so much better.

evilRyu · Post #3 » by **evilRyu** » Tue Sep 30, 2008 11:54 pm

i can't see manny wanting to come here.. the only reason for him to come is $$$.. but a lot of teams can outbid us easily. gaaaaah i hate the MLB cba....

Raptor04 · Post #4 » by **Raptor04** » Wed Oct 1, 2008 12:20 am

Damn, I cannot say how sweet that would be. Manny Ramirez is definately one of the best hitters in baseball. I wonder if his attitude would be a problem, but either way, he'd definately bring the Jays what we need.

We'd be loaded in the outfield then. I think we'd have to have Lind, Wells and Rios in the OF and Snider at 1st base to make it happen. Play Manny at DH.

Likely a pipedream though.

RaptorsBoy · Post #5 » by **RaptorsBoy** » Wed Oct 1, 2008 1:13 am

Adam Lind actually played some firstbase when he was in the minors so he would most likely land their. We would have to ship ot Overbay and I hear Baltimore is interested since they need a new 1B and Lyle is the last 1B to hit a homerun in their ball park this season. All JP can ask for is one of their bottom of the rotation type of pitchers. Think of our lineup:
1.Scutaro SS
2.Hill 2B
3.Rios RF
4.Wells CF
5.Manny DH
6.Lind 1B
7.Rolen 3B
8.Snider LF
9.Barajas C

Post #6 » by **Geddy** » Wed Oct 1, 2008 3:04 am

First off this wasn't by anyone at SI, but rather they were quoting an article by Steve Simmons who was just throwing random ideas out into the open. There is no way the Jays are going to get Manny. Sure they might contact him and all that, but I don't think we can afford him.

Besides everyone knows he's going to the Yankees so he can stick it to the Red Sox.

RaptorsBoy · Post #7 » by **RaptorsBoy** » Wed Oct 1, 2008 3:32 am

Manny actually has many connections to the Blue Jays. In the 80s he was actually a huge Jays fan because of the Domincan stars such as Bell and Fernandez on our team. Then he said that he would love to play against the Red Sox more often but would not follow in Damon's footsteps by going to New York. Then finally he said that he would love to return to the AL to hit as DH and does not want to play for a big market team like LA or Boston again because he does not like having to always defend his "Manny being Manny" comments and actions.
http://www.mannyramirez.com/home.htm

Duncanfan · Post #8 » by **Duncanfan** » Wed Oct 1, 2008 5:34 am

The way I see it, I'd rather do the following:

1- Ship Overbay out to Baltimore for Huff, make Huff DH
2- Make Inglett the leadoff guy who hits for percentages and gets on base, he'll play Second base
3- Move a healthy Aaron Hill to Shortstop
4- Make Scutaro be the utility guy who plays 2nd base platoon with Inglett
5- Use Johnny Mac as Hill's backup
6- Move Lind to first base
7- Sign Manny to a 2 year, 30 mill contract (again, pipe dream!), have him play LF
8- resign Burnett to 15 per (stretch, i know!)

Our new lineup:
Inglett 2B
Hill SS
Rios RF
Wells CF
Manny LF
Huff DH
Lind 1B
Rolen 3B
Barajas C

Pitching rotation:
Halladay
Burnett
Listch
Purcey
Jensen/Richmond/Rumero (sp?)

Utility Guys / Backups:
Bautista 3B / 1B
Johnny Mac SS / 3B
Scutaro SS / 2B / LF
Thigpen C / 1B

Bullpen:
BJ Ryan
Scott Downs
Brandon League
Jesse Carlson
Jensen / Richmond
Tallet
Frasor

Championship, here we come!

Mak · Post #9 » by **Mak** » Wed Oct 1, 2008 11:31 pm

evilRyu wrote:i can't see manny wanting to come here.. the only reason for him to come is $$$.. but a lot of teams can outbid us easily. gaaaaah i hate the MLB cba....

I would not say there are a lot of teams that can outbid us. I think we can easily spend 15-20m on him.

Watching LA in the playoffs now and their stats on this player from LA , Either i think and just showed what his average was before and after Manny. It's crazy, he would make Well an MVP candidate just by batting after him.

Griff83 · Post #10 » by **Griff83** » Thu Oct 2, 2008 8:37 am

Mak wrote:
evilRyu wrote:i can't see manny wanting to come here.. the only reason for him to come is $$$.. but a lot of teams can outbid us easily. gaaaaah i hate the MLB cba....

I would not say there are a lot of teams that can outbid us. I think we can easily spend 15-20m on him.

Watching LA in the playoffs now and their stats on this player from LA , Either i think and just showed what his average was before and after Manny. It's crazy, he would make Well an MVP candidate just by batting after him.

The Yankees can and thats prolly all that matters.

Manny isnt coming to Toronto. Its a total pipedream.

Michael Bradley · Post #11 » by **Michael Bradley** » Thu Oct 2, 2008 11:10 am

I remember reading that Manny was interested in Toronto when he was a free agent 8 years ago, but the Jays had no money to spend at the time. It would take a four year contract and probably $20 million per season, but I don't think Manny will have any problem playing in Toronto. He hits well at Skydome and he would get to stick it to Boston 20 times a year.

It will never happen because Ricciardi isn't one to overpay superstars (he likes role players), but from a realistic standpoint, if the Jays were willing to spend the money then they have just as good a chance as anyone else, IMO.

Post #12 » by **Geddy** » Thu Oct 2, 2008 6:53 pm

The only way we'd have a chance at Manny is if the guy replacing Godfrey replaces JP with someone willing to spend big money on a star player (and the payroll increases). I do think the Yankees are going to go crazy this off season though so the chances of us getting him are slim.

vaff87 · Post #13 » by **vaff87** » Fri Oct 3, 2008 1:13 am

I'm a big fan of Manny, so I'd definitely like to see him on the Jays. And as we've seen, he can turn a team around essentially all by himself. However, I don't exactly think the chances of the Jays signing him are very high.

RaptorsBoy · Post #14 » by **RaptorsBoy** » Fri Oct 3, 2008 1:30 am

Most of u are right JP is not the type of GM to spend a whole lot of money on a star player which is why they are looking at Manny's teammate Furcal as a replacement at shortstop. JP has to go and Manny has to come to Toronto and if its with Furcal then swe would be automatic contenders.
http://www.torontosun.com/sports/baseba ... 6-sun.html

Dr Octagon · Post #15 » by **Dr Octagon** » Fri Oct 3, 2008 7:49 pm

RaptorsBoy wrote:Most of u are right JP is not the type of GM to spend a whole lot of money on a star player

That's right.

He the type of GM who spends lots of money on mediocre players.

Post #16 » by **Mr Swagtastic** » Sat Oct 4, 2008 1:02 am

There are some great pipedreams and some sort of realistic ones but I think Manny will at the end sign with a WS contender and if we miss out on AJ I think he's NY bound. The Yanks have a unlimited suply of money and would just do it to piss of the AL East and the Bo Sox.

I would love to see a trio of Manny, Wells and Rios and the 2/3/4 in the lineup with Lind, Rolen and Synder behind him we would be a powerhouse for sure.

sule · Post #17 » by **sule** » Sun Oct 5, 2008 8:54 am

don't chase Burnett, and trade Overbay for beans, and that's 20 mill freed up to sign Manny. IF we sign Manny, you better believe Ted Rogers would further open up the wallet. Manny will bring in enough fans (especially when Boston plays Toronto) to compensate for the salary increase. We would then have to sign a middle-of-the-rotation pitcher or two to round out the starting lineup and we'd be set for the coming season.

If Brandon League is ready to transition to closer, we could even look to move BJ Ryan for something worthwhile (SS or 2B?)

Instant contenders.

evilRyu · Post #18 » by **evilRyu** » Sun Oct 5, 2008 7:36 pm

While I like your idea of trimming the salary situation for the Jays, I really don't know if League is ready to close games, heck he's not consistent enough to be the setup man at this point. Yes, he shown great promise near the end of the season, but doesn't warrant a big promotion to the closers role IMO. If BJ goes, Accardo should be the first in line to retain the cloesrs role.

Post #19 » by **Geddy** » Mon Oct 6, 2008 4:50 am

Yeah if I were to replace BJ i would either choose Accardo or Carlson (do you guys think Carlson has the stuff to be a closer?).

Post #20 » by **Mr Swagtastic** » Mon Oct 6, 2008 7:18 pm

I don't think we should be trading sure things for potentially good or whatever. BJ Ryan is a good closer and we need him in games where it's tight. Sure our pen is among the best in the league but that doesn't mean that Accardo or Carlson or even League are ready for that role yet.

Manny to TO is a pipe dream, his series vs the Cubs was one of the record books. How the hell do you hit .500 and have 2 HR's in 3 RBI's in 3 games?