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Re: Nuggets at 2022 NBA Draft 

Post#41 » by skywalker33 » Sun Jun 26, 2022 3:48 pm

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skywalker33 wrote:And I remember the hype for Petr Cornelie, not gonna get too excited


Tbh don't think there was any hype for Petr, he was 26 yr old and not exactly a household name even in France. Kamagate is at least still young/only 21 and should appear in the Summer League too.


Saw a couple of mocks/big boards that had Kamagate as a low 1st early second so I'll wait and see, just not buying into the hype yet.

One thing I do look at is we have added some size to this squad, hopefully some defense too. Heck, if/when we trade Monte it looks like we have a 3rd string PG in Collin Gillespie, he looks very similar to what MM was bringing to this table.
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Re: Nuggets at 2022 NBA Draft 

Post#42 » by Richard Miller » Sun Jun 26, 2022 3:49 pm

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skywalker33 wrote:And I remember the hype for Petr Cornelie, not gonna get too excited


Tbh don't think there was any hype for Petr, he was 26 yr old and not exactly a household name even in France. Kamagate is at least still young/only 21 and should appear in the Summer League too.


Cornelie is now 26 and surprisingly evolved great (good enough for the NBA ? not sure), Kamagate is way more certain abt his skills at 21 than Cornelie when he was 21


Actually he's about to turn 27 in a month and not sure how much he evolved? I mean he could barely get in the garbage time
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Re: Nuggets at 2022 NBA Draft 

Post#43 » by Richard Miller » Sun Jun 26, 2022 3:50 pm

skywalker33 wrote:One thing I do look at is we have added some size to this squad, hopefully some defense too. Heck, if/when we trade Monte it looks like we have a 3rd string PG in Collin Gillespie, he looks very similar to what MM was bringing to this table.


Yea, definitely seems no more small guys, even the 3rd string pg now has some size
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Re: Nuggets at 2022 NBA Draft 

Post#44 » by skywalker33 » Sun Jun 26, 2022 5:14 pm

Heard the Nuggets trying to spin the Watson selection as our 2023 1st round selection. OK, I can see that he should get better, and even so, pick #30 is a low-risk high-reward type of choice. However, I heard they look at him as a 2023 lottery selection with the talent he showed in his workouts. Now, I hope they're right but their spin-team is working OT with that one IMO
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Re: Nuggets at 2022 NBA Draft 

Post#45 » by remi_222 » Sun Jun 26, 2022 6:05 pm

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Richard Miller wrote:
Tbh don't think there was any hype for Petr, he was 26 yr old and not exactly a household name even in France. Kamagate is at least still young/only 21 and should appear in the Summer League too.


Cornelie is now 26 and surprisingly evolved great (good enough for the NBA ? not sure), Kamagate is way more certain abt his skills at 21 than Cornelie when he was 21


Actually he's about to turn 27 in a month and not sure how much he evolved? I mean he could barely get in the garbage time


I watched him play in France, and man, let me tell you, he wasnt the same player ! Never understood why he got drafted ! And these last 2 yrs (Olympic medals with France + being a major player in the GLeague) gave him a lot of confidence ! Still think he can be a good euroleague player, thats it ! The US produces 10000 Cornelie every morning
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Post#46 » by Coeur » Mon Jun 27, 2022 3:09 am

Good draft. I wanted different guys more but have liked these 2 guys a lot. And I think they needed SG and SF and got really ideal prototypes for the roles they need.
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Post#47 » by Coeur » Mon Jun 27, 2022 3:19 am

Defensive impact potential in this draft class are insane long term and even something from prob right away.

This draft class adds 2+ years to Aaron Gordon prime and career overall. And they all in theory fit pretty well around jok/Murray/MPJ. That’s a really good plan in drafting. As much as I wanted a couple other guys or these guys we got later this might be the right group.
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Post#48 » by The Rebel » Mon Jun 27, 2022 6:01 am

skywalker33 wrote:Heard the Nuggets trying to spin the Watson selection as our 2023 1st round selection. OK, I can see that he should get better, and even so, pick #30 is a low-risk high-reward type of choice. However, I heard they look at him as a 2023 lottery selection with the talent he showed in his workouts. Now, I hope they're right but their spin-team is working OT with that one IMO


The kid has some high potential, he was rated 8th overall and was obviously far from fully developed, another year if he is a hard worker should be a great player. I do agree that the front office seems to be doing a lot of damage control, I wonder if they thought they had some kind of deal that fell apart with the way the top end of the draft went?
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Re: Nuggets at 2022 NBA Draft 

Post#49 » by Coeur » Sun Jul 3, 2022 10:31 pm

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skywalker33 wrote:Heard the Nuggets trying to spin the Watson selection as our 2023 1st round selection. OK, I can see that he should get better, and even so, pick #30 is a low-risk high-reward type of choice. However, I heard they look at him as a 2023 lottery selection with the talent he showed in his workouts. Now, I hope they're right but their spin-team is working OT with that one IMO


The kid has some high potential, he was rated 8th overall and was obviously far from fully developed, another year if he is a hard worker should be a great player. I do agree that the front office seems to be doing a lot of damage control, I wonder if they thought they had some kind of deal that fell apart with the way the top end of the draft went?

Higher than high potential. This guy has the offensive potential to play guard in the Nugs base 2 guard front offenses. His immediate defensive ability at 3 and 4 would be taking the easy way out. If you’re barely going to play him don’t train him into the eventual Jeff green replacement. Develop him like they tried for pj Dozier. Watson long term defensive impact at guard spots could be even higher than as forward
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Re: Nuggets at 2022 NBA Draft 

Post#50 » by TunaFish » Mon Jul 4, 2022 2:25 am

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skywalker33 wrote:Heard the Nuggets trying to spin the Watson selection as our 2023 1st round selection. OK, I can see that he should get better, and even so, pick #30 is a low-risk high-reward type of choice. However, I heard they look at him as a 2023 lottery selection with the talent he showed in his workouts. Now, I hope they're right but their spin-team is working OT with that one IMO


The kid has some high potential, he was rated 8th overall and was obviously far from fully developed, another year if he is a hard worker should be a great player. I do agree that the front office seems to be doing a lot of damage control, I wonder if they thought they had some kind of deal that fell apart with the way the top end of the draft went?

Higher than high potential. This guy has the offensive potential to play guard in the Nugs base 2 guard front offenses. His immediate defensive ability at 3 and 4 would be taking the easy way out. If you’re barely going to play him don’t train him into the eventual Jeff green replacement. Develop him like they tried for pj Dozier. Watson long term defensive impact at guard spots could be even higher than as forward


He is on the summer league team so hopefully we get to see him.
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Re: Nuggets at 2022 NBA Draft 

Post#51 » by Norm2953 » Wed Jul 6, 2022 6:33 pm

I come from the Blazers board in peace...

Portland finally completed the Jerami Grant trade and it was announced Kamagate was part of the
deal going to Portland. Is he still going to Denver for a 2024 SRP for Portland could certainly use
another big with the often injured Nurkic on their roster.
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Re: Nuggets at 2022 NBA Draft 

Post#52 » by DaFan334 » Wed Jul 6, 2022 6:50 pm

Norm2953 wrote:I come from the Blazers board in peace...

Portland finally completed the Jerami Grant trade and it was announced Kamagate was part of the
deal going to Portland. Is he still going to Denver for a 2024 SRP for Portland could certainly use
another big with the often injured Nurkic on their roster.


Yeah, that was all part of the deal, for him to come to us with the pick.
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Re: Nuggets at 2022 NBA Draft 

Post#53 » by TunaFish » Wed Jul 6, 2022 7:15 pm

Norm2953 wrote:I come from the Blazers board in peace...

Portland finally completed the Jerami Grant trade and it was announced Kamagate was part of the
deal going to Portland. Is he still going to Denver for a 2024 SRP for Portland could certainly use
another big with the often injured Nurkic on their roster.


As far as we know, Kamagate is Denver's property and is expected to return to Europe after summer league. However, if he looks better than advertised in the summer league, who can say.

The Nuggets are acquiring French center Ismael Kamagate, the 46th pick of the 2022 NBA draft, from the Trail Blazers in exchange for a 2024 second-round pick. https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2022/06/nuggets-to-acquire-ismael-kamagate-from-blazers.html
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Re: Nuggets at 2022 NBA Draft 

Post#54 » by Norm2953 » Wed Jul 6, 2022 7:16 pm

Why was Denver part of the Grant deal? I was just curious how NBA teams have to operate for Portland could renege on Denver's end without impacting the Grant trade
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Re: Nuggets at 2022 NBA Draft 

Post#55 » by TunaFish » Wed Jul 6, 2022 7:25 pm

Norm2953 wrote:Why was Denver part of the Grant deal? I was just curious how NBA teams have to operate for Portland could renege on Denver's end without impacting the Grant trade


Separate trade between Denver and Portland, an exchange of 2nd round picks.
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Re: Nuggets at 2022 NBA Draft 

Post#56 » by skywalker33 » Tue Jul 12, 2022 2:26 am

My favorite prospect just had a strong SL performance, SG/SF Malaki Branham's line tonight was 20/6/2. He also had 5TO's but there are a LOT of TO's in the SL. We were just one spot away from being able to select him, Dammit, Jim !!!
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Re: Nuggets at 2022 NBA Draft 

Post#57 » by The Rebel » Tue Jul 26, 2022 4:11 am

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For those that don't have the athletic article, some interesting insight to the front offices thinking going to into the draft. It is hard to find perimeter defenders right now, we got lucky getting Brown and KCP but if the picks this year develop we will be fine for those defenders for years to come.

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