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MELO or AI?

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Who would you Keep?

Melo
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48%
AI
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52%
 
Total votes: 61

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Post#41 » by BarbaGrizz » Mon Apr 28, 2008 6:08 pm

Would you guys do this trade?

Memphis sends: Mike Miller, Mike Conley, Javaris Crittenton, LAL pick (#27)
Memphis receives: Carmelo Anthony

Denver sends: Melo
Denver receives: Mike Miller, Mike Conley, Javaris Crittenton, LAL pick (#27)
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Post#42 » by stefano2006 » Mon Apr 28, 2008 6:21 pm

Hey Guys,
AI fan here, well reading all this thread was fun and sad, I think you are right in a sense that Denver was not the team for AI(even if the idea was nice), I wanted AI to go to Minnesota with Garnett, for me it was the best match, AI hsould have been traded to a team with a Big Guy, pair like (Kobe-shaq) (Tmac Yao) (parker/Gino-duncan) (nash - amare), it works not all the time for a championship, detroit was wallace-rip(not exactly the same but size matter work.
Melo AI are not a huge difference, problem is:
2 scorers
2 stars
2 players who want to be on the spot
noted that AI calm down and if you look at the stat this year, it was impressive, because everybody is criticizing but the fault is not on this 2, the fault is:
Ai is not a point guard (so don t make him run the ball most of the time)
Ai should not be the number 1 assist man here
if Denver trade one of the best PG for one of the best scorer then try to get an average PG and not a fool like AC!!!!!
Karl is definitely not a coach, carl always have good players, obviously he got more than 800 wins....seattle remember cmon...
I am sure some coach are dreaming to get hire next year to make a shot with a team like:

AI
Melo
KM
JR
Camby

bench:
atkins-najera-kleiza

only the starting is a show already, against the Lakers they lost 3 already and probably 4 tonight, i am not a Kobe lover cause i think is a wanna(jordan)be and there is ONE mike, but kobe is good no doubt.
a starting 5 against Kobe and Gasol with average players aside, once again Kobe -Gasol, like i said before the scorer and the defender.
why AI finished at Denver and why Denver wanted AI

answer:

Denver is taking so much money behind with 2 of the top 5 selling jerseys in the league, two big names, Denver arena is packed all the time, maybe you don t see it like that in the USA but in europe soccer team does that a lot, the player as a good salary, good sponsors fee but the team get half the money over the image sales of the player, so Denver is probably one of the team who cash the most with these guys.

I am sure a lot of people here won t agree.
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Post#43 » by Devilzsidewalk » Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:43 pm

It'd never happen, but I think AI for Kidd would benefit both teams
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Post#44 » by BOBBA LUI » Tue Apr 29, 2008 3:26 am

Bulls fan here:

indulge my fantasy if you will, but how about

Ben Gordon or Kirk Hinrich with Larry Hughes to make the contracts work

for

Allen Iverson

yes, no, eh maybe? please, discuss...
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Post#45 » by nola3 » Tue Apr 29, 2008 5:22 am

Eh. I trade Melo, and let AI opt out, or hang on to him one more year. Build around JR and whoever you get for Melo. Maybe you can get Derrick Rose with a trade for a pick? A DRose / JR Smith backcourt would be exciting.
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Post#46 » by manchambo » Tue Apr 29, 2008 6:01 am

nola3 wrote:Eh. I trade Melo, and let AI opt out, or hang on to him one more year. Build around JR and whoever you get for Melo. Maybe you can get Derrick Rose with a trade for a pick? A DRose / JR Smith backcourt would be exciting.


A suggestion to "build around JR Smith."

It's pretty hard to find a player with a worse overall basketball IQ than Melo, but you got one there. Also, there's the small point that, apart freom JR's occassional three point shooting flurries, he's not nearly as good a player as Melo in any facet of the game.

Other than that, I really like this suggestion.
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Post#47 » by JRmakes_it_rain » Tue Apr 29, 2008 6:55 am

manchambo wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



A suggestion to "build around JR Smith."

It's pretty hard to find a player with a worse overall basketball IQ than Melo, but you got one there. Also, there's the small point that, apart freom JR's occassional three point shooting flurries, he's not nearly as good a player as Melo in any facet of the game.

Other than that, I really like this suggestion.


lol....JR is a better shooter.....JR is a better ball handler.....JR can pass off the pick and roll.....JR is younger.....JR can finish.....JR has a left hand.....JR puts out more effort.....did I mention JR can finish? If Melo could finish we would've won game 4. JR is finally getting some time on the floor, and is showing what he's capable of. And as far as basketball IQ goes....I don't think Melo is any better off then JR when the word IQ is used in any sense...but LK is lower then both of them in basketball IQ.
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Post#48 » by sportsmikegm23 » Tue Apr 29, 2008 9:46 am

JRmakes_it_rain wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



lol....JR is a better shooter.....JR is a better ball handler.....JR can pass off the pick and roll.....JR is younger.....JR can finish.....JR has a left hand.....JR puts out more effort.....did I mention JR can finish? If Melo could finish we would've won game 4. JR is finally getting some time on the floor, and is showing what he's capable of. And as far as basketball IQ goes....I don't think Melo is any better off then JR when the word IQ is used in any sense...but LK is lower then both of them in basketball IQ.


I would agree right now...JR has a higher IQ than Melo...but I think you are being very hard on Kleiza... He can drive and kick... he can pass of the pick and roll...he also has a left unlike Melo...and puts out more effort as well... I don't know why you diss Kleiza so much? He's not an all-star, but if it wasn't for him and JR and Najera...the 1st 3 games would have been 40 point blowouts. Give Kleiza a little respect.

If JR works all summer on his game and keeps working on his head too... he could be a MONSTER...
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Post#49 » by sportsmikegm23 » Tue Apr 29, 2008 9:55 am

manchambo wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



A suggestion to "build around JR Smith."

It's pretty hard to find a player with a worse overall basketball IQ than Melo, but you got one there. Also, there's the small point that, apart freom JR's occassional three point shooting flurries, he's not nearly as good a player as Melo in any facet of the game.

Other than that, I really like this suggestion.


He has more assists in this series. He made more layups in this series... he played off the pick and roll better, and shot better... His basketball IQ right now, I would have to say is better than Melo's... Melo still can't figure out a double team...(yes, some of his teammates don't help much either)...

Melo has to decide to play and devote himself to basketball more. In the last month or so...he fired his management company to find someone that would promote him better and of course his DUI... Right now, he is more worried about Melo the entity than Melo the basketball player. JR is listening to the coaches like Mike Dunlap and especially John Welch and working hard on his game and you can see the effort.

I am not saying he's a better player than Melo...but Melo is not playing anywhere up to what he's capable of and worst of all...sounds like he's turning on his teammates and not listening to coaches at all.
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Post#50 » by nola3 » Tue Apr 29, 2008 11:19 am

I was very impressed with JR this series. Despite some assertions that he hasn't developed at all in two years, I'd argue that he is a much better basketball player right now than he was at the beginning of the season.

As he matures a little more he'll stop taking some of the stupid shots, but you have to like his aggressiveness to the basket and his ability to finish.

Melo should be embarrassed that hes the 5th best finisher on this team (behind AI/JR/Kmart/Kleiza).
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Post#51 » by Nugologist » Tue Apr 29, 2008 12:16 pm

JR's performance in this series was easily the "bright spot" or number one thing to build on. I was a harsh critic of his last season, and I feel obligated to praise his remarkable development during this season. He's truly on the verge of being a star on this league -- passion and all. Sure, he needs to work on shot selection a little, but that's gotten a lot better than it used to be. He drives to the basket much of the time, and probably has the best left hand finishing ability on the team. And his passing has been pretty impressive as well. Maybe the coaching staff deserves a little credit for his development. After all, he was coached the old-fashioned way -- he didn't get minutes until he started listening and playing smarter, and he's a much better player for it.

Perhaps if Karl took a hard line like that with all of the players, we wouldn't be where we are now. But we all know the reality of NBA basketball in terms of how you can and can't coach the stars of the league. I personally don't think this team can really compete for a championship with AI or Melo as the centerpiece. There needs to be a better all-around player who leads by example on both ends of the floor, and makes the other players better. Both are score-first players. Maybe Melo will evolve into that type of player in a few years. But it doesn't seem like it's going to happen any time soon.

Let the trade and coaching rumors officially begin!
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Post#52 » by IggyTheBEaST » Tue Apr 29, 2008 7:56 pm

Iverson is the easy answer because melo has so much more trade value, but im surprised the poll agrees with me with all the a.i haters on this board
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Post#53 » by big123 » Wed Apr 30, 2008 5:33 am

IggyTheBEaST wrote:Iverson is the easy answer because melo has so much more trade value, but im surprised the poll agrees with me with all the a.i haters on this board


AI is the easy answer because he comes off the books after next year anyway. The Nuggets could trade him, but it would probably be in their best interest to just let him run out, then force a trade for lesser value or the same expiring contracts. If the Nuggets are in a rush to be a contender next year, you try to tweak the team as is or trade Melo unless of course AI opts out on his own.

The best case scenerio for the Nuggets is for AI to opt out or to do Magic tricks in a trade.

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