Joey Dorsey

[KillaCro$$over]

what's your opinion on him?

would taking him at #20 be too high?
personally I think he'd fit well wit our system
& give us another defensive presence we
desperately need. 6-9 265 he's NBA ready
has a warrior's & will not be intimidated

[legendarywalton]

The guy is an absolute beast , but he's a ridiculously bad offensive player. I think he'd be too much of a reach at #20, which makes you wish this organization would get its **** together and hold onto some god damn draft picks.

Personally, I really really like Marreese Speights from Florida. We desperately need a second option for interior scoring after Nene, because that would free 'Melo up to create some space just outside the paint. Some mock drafts have us taking Donte Green but I think that he's too raw. The guy loves his jumper and does not use his size down low. We can't afford more poor shot selection, and we just need a rebounder with a hint of offensive talent on the block. Speights is my guy.

[CanNugget]

I love Speights especially playing the pick and roll which is barely done by the nuggets other than maybe Nene. But i don't think he uses his size to his advantage in the post he could be a lot more effective if he got tougher.
I'm also in favor of Dorsey, His offense can improve probably wont much but everythingg else is something denver needs, but at #20? i dunno...

You guys think Roy Hibbert will make it to #20?

[KillaCro$$over]

i like Dorsey defensively over Speights who has been
labeled soft by his own coaches at times! We need defense
we don't need offense. Dorsey's more NBA ready too
& he plays passionately something we desperately need

[legendarywalton]

I agree with you that Dorsey's passionate, talented on defense, and hungry to win. However, I think that any time you take a player that isn't very well balanced, it's easy to create mismatches-- something this team is trying to avoid.

For example, Dorsey closely resembles Ben Wallace. Because Ben's team passes the ball and gets other players invovled, he was able to sit in the post, grab some boards and focus on defense. I've read numerous articles, and I tend to agree with them, that the Nuggets offense was the underachiever this year.

We need to find players that can contribute at both ends so that the chemistry can continue to build. If AI and Melo are comfortable incorporating a low post scorer into their gameplan, they may be more relaxed and focused on the defensive end.

Dorsey is a great player that would fit in nicely here, but not for the #20 pick.

[Don_eMOCION#31]

i don't know much about college basketball. i think believing what you guys say is the best option for me. i always hear some things about higher draft candidates but the 20th pick is a really hard one for me.

[Jack Bang CO]

I'd love to see Dorsey on this team. It would be a perfect symbol of the Nuggets' commitment to defense, toughness and heart. Perhaps that would be the beginning of a move away from gunners & streetballers and towards smart, effective, disciplined team players.

Oops, wait, all we care about is outscoring the other guys and leading the league in tattoos & appearances on "MTV Cribs". Winning the ring isn't a high priority.

Never mind. Sorry.

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[Nutty Nats Fan]

Perhaps that would be the beginning of a move away from gunners & streetballers and towards smart, effective, disciplined team players.

The only way to move away from that is by firing Karl. He doesn't care though, admits to having quit the past couple of years, and thinks life is good because he beat cancer.

There is no leadership or accountability, and the players have followed that example.

[Blame Rasho]

You know you can perhaps buy a pick from Portland in the 2nd round given that they have like 5 picks this year and have a full roster. I don't think he is a 1st round talent but I do think he is a difference maker when it is all said and done, and could have an impact on this Nuggets team.

[JRMelo15]

I thought we already have a Ben Wallace type guy on our team - Camby. Dorsey does look like Wallace - good defense, no offense.

[legendarywalton]

Camby is more finesse than he is power and intimidation. The real difference between Camby and Wallace is that Wallace doesn't let you into the paint, while Camby trails the play and picks up a lot of cheap (but still welcome) blocks. Camby is without a doubt the best weakside/help defender in the game, and if we could pair him with a healthy Nene or a player like Joey Dorsey, our post defense would be very close to elite IMHO.

Buying a pick in the mid to late 2nd round would be a very, very intersting concept. But who do we get rid of? It's obvious this front office and staff don't like rookies.

[GO GRIZZ]

Hey guys,

Words from a Memphian. I don't think Dorsey will be a second round pick. I believe if he's still there, that maybe even the Grizz would pick him up because of his prescence in the paint. It would not be far fetched to pick him at No. 20. If he's still there, I would love for the Grizz to get him with the Lakers pick this year.

[legendarywalton]

Hey guys,

Words from a Memphian. I don't think Dorsey will be a second round pick. I believe if he's still there, that maybe even the Grizz would pick him up because of his prescence in the paint. It would not be far fetched to pick him at No. 20. If he's still there, I would love for the Grizz to get him with the Lakers pick this year.

Seems like you share your owner's sentiments. I think that if he's taken before the second round, a lot of value will be lost. He's a tremendous one-dimensional player with a chance of offensive production, but guys like that get weeded out hack a shack style (Reggie Evans and rebounding?). I think the Grizz might grab him because the owner is so committed to defense, and it's not in the Nuggets best interest to reach on him.[/url]

[GO GRIZZ]

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Seems like you share your owner's sentiments. I think that if he's taken before the second round, a lot of value will be lost. He's a tremendous one-dimensional player with a chance of offensive production, but guys like that get weeded out hack a shack style (Reggie Evans and rebounding?). I think the Grizz might grab him because the owner is so committed to defense, and it's not in the Nuggets best interest to reach on him.[/url]

That does have some truth to it. But a presence like that make driving point guards think twice. He is known for putting someone on the ground. When he learns to stay out of foul trouble, he would be worth it. I give the first 15 picks of this years draft a worthy draft. After that, who else is out there that's a worthy mention. We know he's not the best in the draft but worth taking in the first round. If he or CDR is there, it's a wrap. They will be taken. Plus they are ready for a run and gun style.

[legendarywalton]

So would you take Dorsey over Hibbert? I just wanted to gauge where you rank Dorsey amongst the other big men in the draft.

[SnakefromHell]

^I'd take Dorsey over Hibbert.

Hibbert is skilled but he played soft. Sometimes the wirings in his brain connect and he plays with passion, sense of urgency, and physicality. But most of the time, he plays like a woman and reminds me of Boris Diaw before Shaq trade. With a size that he has? That's a shame... he should be banging people and dominate but he doesn't.

Dorsey is more than Reggie Evans too. He can jump out of the gym and an athletic shot blocker. His one on one defense can improve but it is already much better than Camby. I'd probably take him at 20 if the good ones are already taken. He played like Ben Wallace and it is pretty fair comparison.

[GO GRIZZ]

So would you take Dorsey over Hibbert? I just wanted to gauge where you rank Dorsey amongst the other big men in the draft.

Because of the Phoenix style system the Grizzlies are trying to run, I would rather have Dorsey but in any other system, I would probably say Hibbert. Hibbert has a huge upside but I think Dorsey will come in ready.

[pardon_my_interruption]

Another Memphis fan's perspective.

Heck no we would not take Dorsey over Hibbert.

Dorsey would have to be a flat out beast in the league to justify that.

I think he could be a good player but too much of a gamble in the first round.

Even if their both busts in the 20's, Hibbert would still be easier to move at a younger age and bigger size than an older, undersized Joey Dorsey.

A team that really wants Dorsey should try and move up early second round and get him there. It's safer.

And that's coming from someone who thinks he could stick in the league.

[CanNugget]

I think i have to agree with taking hibbert over Dorsey, i dunno why i love hibbert, i also agree that he's soft but he showed so many glimpses of being a beast and he's just so big and young.

WTF are they looking at Ty Lawson for holy ****! i dunno why ppl like this guy, always injured AND a MIDGET!!!! thats not what we need holy ****!! this organization drives me insane!!!

[pardon_my_interruption]

Yeah..Lawson at 20 would be a bad pick for Denver in my opinion.