Afflalo vs Brewer

[Ice32]

With Arron still not signed by Denver, it got me thinking who's better head-to-head and if Brewer is capable of replacing Afflalo if he chooses to play else where. Here are their stats in the 10 games when playing against each other in the NBA:

Arron - 30.2 mpg, 3.6 rpg, 2.3 apg, 0.5 spg and 11.2 ppg

Corey - 28.5 ppg, 5.2 rpg, 2.1 apg, 1.2 spg and 13.4 ppg

Career numbers wise, Brewer is a slightly better scorer, rebounder and defender, whilst Afflalo is a better overall shooter and passer.

People forget that only 2 seasons ago, Brewer started all 82 games for Minnesota and finished 9th in Most Improved Player, and put up 3.4 rpg, 2.4 apg, 1.4 spg and 13.0 ppg. Brewer is always amongst the league leaders in steals and finished 2nd last year in the NBA in Steals per 48 mins.

Arron has obviously better range and hits more threes, but Brewer's run n gun game fits in perfectly with Coach GK style. If Arron did choose to play elsewhere, Im confident that Brewer would do a capable job of replacing Afflalo's production.

[Aeternus]

Where did you get those numbers? B-R has them averaging 12.6ppg (Afflalo) and 13.2ppg (Brewer) in 2011 and 2010 respectively (the years I think you are talking about) and Afflalo crushes Brewer scoring-wise, rocking a sensational .620 TS against the ex-Dallas player's pedestrian .502; it more than overrules the 0.6ppg volume difference. Also I think every Nuggets fan will agree that Afflalo's D is elite, regardless of his steals (famous perimeter defender who didn't average many steals: Bruce Bowen), and I would not take Brewer over him in this department. And as you already said Afflalo is the better shooter and passer.

IMO only a miracle will make Brewer overtake Afflalo at the GS spot. Besides he's going to backup the 3 most likely, with Fernandez and the rookie at the 2 and 2/3 respectively.

Before you think if you would take Brewer over Afflalo, think if you would take Stevenson over Afflalo: because Brewer didn't manage to overtake him in Dallas. Also, thinking it value-wise, do you really think that a much coveted FA like Afflalo is worse than a trade throw in like Brewer?

[Maf]

Brewer has more steals per game, he's better defender... So Allen Iverson has a career average 2.2 steals per game. Bruce Bowen has an average of 0.8. Who's the better defender, again?



Another one- Manute Bol blocked 3.3 shots per game. Kevin Garnett's average is 1.5.

Response to your question- Can Brewer replace Afflalo?

Yes, ha can. As good as Mozgov would replace Nene.

[almost famous]

I don't think Brewer would get much time at the 2. With or without AA, it's just not his position.

[Ice32]

Guys, I never said that Brewer was the better player. I said that if Afflalo left for another team, based on Brewers numbers (career stats, career season and head-to-head match up against Afflalo), that he could replace Arron's production. The h-to-h stats are are available on basketball-reference.com:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... =breweco01

Again, career numbers wise, there isn't that much that separates them. Obviously Afflalo is the better shooter, but based on the playing style of GK, Brewer would flourish in this system. Remember, under Coach Rambis, Brewer played the Triangle offense which is minimal running. In Dallas where he played a handful of games, it was half court offense.

But you are right, Brewer would most likely play the 3 spot more than the 2. And I hope Afflalo comes back, because it would make both their games better and more competitive.

Don't forget, these 2 battled it out in the NCAA Final not too long ago!

[The Rebel]

Guys, I never said that Brewer was the better player. I said that if Afflalo left for another team, based on Brewers numbers (career stats, career season and head-to-head match up against Afflalo), that he could replace Arron's production. The h-to-h stats are are available on basketball-reference.com:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... =breweco01

Again, career numbers wise, there isn't that much that separates them. Obviously Afflalo is the better shooter, but based on the playing style of GK, Brewer would flourish in this system. Remember, under Coach Rambis, Brewer played the Triangle offense which is minimal running. In Dallas where he played a handful of games, it was half court offense.

But you are right, Brewer would most likely play the 3 spot more than the 2. And I hope Afflalo comes back, because it would make both their games better and more competitive.

Don't forget, these 2 battled it out in the NCAA Final not too long ago!

Afflalo started his career fighting for minutes behind 2 all stars in his rookie year, an all star and hall of famer his 2nd year. Brewer struggled to earn minutes on one of the worst teams in the league. The fact that their career numbers match up is not a good sign for Brewer.

Brewer should be at best the 9th man, which is right about what he has shown to be his value in the league to this point.

[Ice32]

Im just surprised that a 'coveted FA' like Afflalo is still a FA. Whats the hold up? Denver obviously are not gonna budge on dollars. Afflalo thinks he's worth more. If Jamal Crawford got 10 mil for 2 years with Portland, hows Afflao thinks he's going to get more than 5 mil a year with Denver?

I get the feeling that Denver FO are gonna play their cards with Rudy and hope he has a 'breakout season'. Anything from Brewer is icing on the cake.

[clockwork]

I don't think Brewer would get much time at the 2. With or without AA, it's just not his position.

he's listed at sg but he's also listed as 6'9".

he could back up gallo at the sf and we'd have a pretty good lineup. the depth definitely will give us a lot of versatility on change ups seeing how the condensed season will hit all nba teams with fatigue.

ty/miller
afflalo/rudy/hamilton
gallo/brewer/faried
nene/al/kosta
moz/andersen/kosta

we have a lot options to choose from.

[corona]

Guys, I never said that Brewer was the better player. I said that if Afflalo left for another team, based on Brewers numbers (career stats, career season and head-to-head match up against Afflalo), that he could replace Arron's production. The h-to-h stats are are available on basketball-reference.com:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... =breweco01

h2h stats are pretty much worthless.

i'm guessing they almost never defended each other, denver won most of the games, and afflalo spent a couple 4th quarters on the bench while brewer was out running and gunning against gary forbes.

afflalo also has all the intangibles that aren't measured statistically and have significant impact on games/teammates...etc.
1v1 defense. team defense. making smart plays. not committing stupid fouls or stupid turnovers. not gambling for steals or getting burned backdoor. being clutch. being a leader on and off the court. being focused for 48 minutes 82 times a year. being a professional. etc

Again, career numbers wise, there isn't that much that separates them. Obviously Afflalo is the better shooter, but based on the playing style of GK, Brewer would flourish in this system.

you need proper spacing to run a fast paced penetrate and pass, team movement/ball movement offense. otherwise its a total clusteryouknowwhat and the opposing defense just collapses into the paint on every transition and the offense goes nowhere. nuggets fans are all too familiar with that when we had dre/melo/kmart/camby and enough talent to win any game....but greg buckner and dermarr johnson to fill in the sg position.

arron's one of the most efficient shooters in the league. brewer, not at all. i think AAA shoots around 50% from either corner 3....teams simply cannot leave him open anywhere, and that means that lawson/nene/gallo all get more 1v1 opportunities or p&r opportunities without help defense. just because the offense is quicker doesn't mean every possession is a fastbreak and brewer would just be running 3 on 2's and dunking all game.

I get the feeling that Denver FO are gonna play their cards with Rudy and hope he has a 'breakout season'. Anything from Brewer is icing on the cake.

they promised rudy the 6th man role when they traded for him. to me that means they know his strengths....as an offensive spark off the bench, just like jr. and they know they plan on having afflalo back to be the starting sg.

if for some reason aaa does something completely unexpected and demands a ridiculous contract, and gets another team to offer it to him and the nuggets decline to match....and then corey brewer becomes the starting SG....the nuggets will be way worse off...no question. there's a reason we got him for half of a 2nd round pick, and why most of the league covets AAA.

[clockwork]

in addition to what corona said, it's a matter of personality. afflalo exemplifies the perfect characteristic a nba player should have. he came into the league with the superstar/kobe complex but obviously hit reality when the first two seasons were less exciting for him. then he comes here, gets a starting position and doesn't take it for granted, works his ass off during the next off season and keeps improving vastly.

i'd honestly keep afflalo here in denver over gallo, nene, lawson or anybody else on the roster. granted brewer had a nice season 2 years ago but in no way is he close to the status of aaron afflalo.

[clockwork]

Im confident that Brewer would do a capable job of replacing Afflalo's production.

that statement is just so terribly, terribly wrong.

[KAVK]

AAA > Brewer. He defends as good as possible without fouling. His improvement last season was huge on top of his off dribble jumper was reliable. No team will leave him open to double this year. Man is everything positive to team to have around as an example to the rest.

I am down with us paying up to 9 mil / year for 4 to 5 years.