Gallinari's physical development

MagnusPinus · Post #1 » by **MagnusPinus** » Tue Jan 3, 2012 8:25 pm

Danilo is strugglin with his shot, so his game is going below the radar, but i noticed something really different from him this season.
His body, but in general his athleticism has gone thru the roof.. He is second in dunks in the league, in general he looks much quicker, more vertical, stronger. U can notice that in defense too. He played terrific defense this year, against kobe, steph jackson yesterday.. I also saw on a mismatch he could stay easily with jennings. Rememebr he is almost 7 feet tall!!! He is a completly different athlete and player.. Due to his added muscle it looks like he is in trouble with the mechanics of shooting, but i think he will work on it..

When he came into the league everybody was saying he was a turkoglu kukoc type of player, so finesse above athleticism and streght, but over the years he developed in a total different kind of animal.. To me he is a sort of white lebron james in the sense that he dominates physically the game... I read in his book that when he was a kid he was extremely athletic, than he had a growth spurt and lost some of it.. i think with the years and the work he regained a lot of his athleticism and now he is an outstanding athlete.. I don't see any 6-11 white guys with his combination of strenght and quickness in this league.

So, I have great hopes on my Gallo. Once he gets his shot back he will be a star on BOTH ends of the court.

Aeternus · Post #2 » by **Aeternus** » Tue Jan 3, 2012 8:48 pm

Those who followed him before the NBA know that his current form isn't new, but old. He's playing exactly like in Italy, his main weapon the aggressive drive, his pride his defense (coached by his father, a premier defender in his times himself), his shot really more an afterthought. The growth spurt and the harsh injury he went through greatly worsened his athletic form in the last years, but clear signals of improvement on this front have come each and every year he spent in the league. He was basically a Kapono in his first year, but then he spent every off-season in physical rejuvenation, focusing in speed, vertical and strength respectively the last three years.

That's also why, I believe, we've seen so little actual improvement from him, skill-wise. Just a start of post up game, and a rediscovery of his defending and rebounding capabilities denied by the loss of athleticism, and nothing else.
Ah well, he's still young, let's hope he has the drive to get even better on the technical sides of the game too.

MagnusPinus · Post #3 » by **MagnusPinus** » Tue Jan 3, 2012 9:00 pm

Aeternus wrote:Those who followed him before the NBA know that his current form isn't new, but old. He's playing exactly like in Italy, his main weapon the aggressive drive, his pride his defense (coached by his father, a premier defender in his times himself), his shot really more an afterthought. The growth spurt and the harsh injury he went through greatly worsened his athletic form in the last years, but clear signals of improvement on this front have come each and every year he spent in the league. He was basically a Kapono in his first year, but then he spent every off-season in physical rejuvenation, focusing in speed, vertical and strength respectively the last three years.

That's also why, I believe, we've seen so little actual improvement from him, skill-wise. Just a start of post up game, and a rediscovery of his defending and rebounding capabilities denied by the loss of athleticism, and nothing else.
Ah well, he's still young, let's hope he has the drive to get even better on the technical sides of the game too.

All true.. In italy he was playing in a similar way, but now is doing it at a higher level, with a much bigger stronger body and more athleticism as well.. Too bad he messed up his shot mechanics.. It's clearly cos of the muscles that changed his natural stroke. When he was in italy he played aggressive but still he was shooting better. I hope he gets it back, cos he will be scary to watch.

Aeternus · Post #4 » by **Aeternus** » Tue Jan 3, 2012 10:00 pm

Yoga wrote:Raptors fan here, I watch some Denver games because I am a fan of Gallo and Fernandez. Gallo's game this year reminds me of a young Manu Ginobili (from 2004), in terms of his aggression in getting towards the basket. He will score or get fouled (and go to the free throw line).

Steve Hess, Denver's trainer had him bulk up quite a bit...he looks a lot bigger than last year.

You know, Ginobili is actually the player Gallo was compared to in his pre-draft scouting reports. 3s and drives as the main offensive options, above average playmaking and all around athleticism for the position, very strong defense. Both very smart players who can play on and off the ball, fundamentally sound skill-wise, can be clutch and take over when needed, but look comfortable if there's someone else doing that too.
Really Gallo is/will develop into basically a 36mpg Ginobili at the SF/PF position. He's not quite there yet, but he clearly looks on the way.

EDIT: have I lost my mind? I could swear there was a message above mine, heck I quoted it!
I certainly didn't invent it.

GnarlesOakley · Post #5 » by **GnarlesOakley** » Wed Jan 4, 2012 2:00 am

Aeternus wrote:
Yoga wrote:Raptors fan here, I watch some Denver games because I am a fan of Gallo and Fernandez. Gallo's game this year reminds me of a young Manu Ginobili (from 2004), in terms of his aggression in getting towards the basket. He will score or get fouled (and go to the free throw line).

Steve Hess, Denver's trainer had him bulk up quite a bit...he looks a lot bigger than last year.

You know, Ginobili is actually the player Gallo was compared to in his pre-draft scouting reports. 3s and drives as the main offensive options, above average playmaking and all around athleticism for the position, very strong defense. Both very smart players who can play on and off the ball, fundamentally sound skill-wise, can be clutch and take over when needed, but look comfortable if there's someone else doing that too.
Really Gallo is/will develop into basically a 36mpg Ginobili at the SF/PF position. He's not quite there yet, but he clearly looks on the way.

EDIT: have I lost my mind? I could swear there was a message above mine, heck I quoted it!
I certainly didn't invent it.

I always figured Gallo could be a SF version of Manu. Hopefully he improves his shot.

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Post #6 » by **duetta** » Fri Jan 6, 2012 12:10 pm

He still rushes his three pointers - but his ability to penetrate and pass is looking greater than at any time in his Knick career. I must admit to watching a lot more Nuggets basketball on League Pass than Knicks basketball at this point.

Knicksfan20 · Post #7 » by **Knicksfan20** » Sat Jan 7, 2012 2:41 am

He was a jumpshooter on the Knicks because of dantoni. He wouldnt let him play his game. Thats why alot of knickd didnt wanna trade gallo and knew he had great potential. I hope he ends back up with the knicks somehow.

Ironhead · Post #8 » by **Ironhead** » Sat Jan 7, 2012 11:31 pm

I remember last year during midseason Gallo starting showing significantly more explosion and lift near the rim. During one of the broadcasts the announcers were talking about how the coaching staff was watching film and noticed Gallo was still running as if he was 6'7". He was taking a lot of long strides and the result was that he often was off balance and as a result couldn't get lift around the basket. They had him start taking much shorter strides and it significantly helped his balance and athleticism on the court.

Galloisdaman · Post #9 » by **Galloisdaman** » Sun Jan 8, 2012 5:20 pm

Gallo is 1 year away from being a frequent all star. He has had to work through some injuries and he is still a pretty young guy. I think the Nuggets and Karl know he is a work in progress. At some point I expect a guy that puts up around 20ppg-7rpg-4apg while creating a lot of mismatches.

Purdman · Post #10 » by **Purdman** » Mon Jan 9, 2012 7:23 pm

Love Gallo. Pre trade last year I definitely noticed him pulling off some impressive dunks and athletic moves that were not in his repetoire. i think a lot of it is just recovering from his early career back injury.

He is a star, really hope he finds his way back to NYK.

mcmurphy · Post #11 » by **mcmurphy** » Wed Jan 11, 2012 5:06 pm

I hope the struggle with the shoot is ended.

1-5 games FG 36%, 3p% 16%, FT% 88%, reb 5.0, ast 2.2, stl 2.4, blk 0.4, to 1.2, ppg 13.8
6-10 games FG 54%, 3p% 38%, FT% 81%, reb 5.4, ast 3.2, stl 1.2, blk 1.0, to 2.4, ppg 19.6

if he can maintain overall season an average of 20, 5, 3 would be great.

This year the only players who have at least 20, 5, 3 are lebron, kobe, durant and carmelo and last year lebron, wade, kobe, and griffin... so all star numbers

Aeternus · Post #12 » by **Aeternus** » Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:26 pm

mcmurphy wrote:I hope the struggle with the shoot is ended.

1-5 games FG 36%, 3p% 16%, FT% 88%, reb 5.0, ast 2.2, stl 2.4, blk 0.4, to 1.2, ppg 13.8
6-10 games FG 54%, 3p% 38%, FT% 81%, reb 5.4, ast 3.2, stl 1.2, blk 1.0, to 2.4, ppg 19.6

if he can maintain overall season an average of 20, 5, 3 would be great.

This year the only players who have at least 20, 5, 3 are lebron, kobe, durant and carmelo and last year lebron, wade, kobe, and griffin... so all star numbers

Nuggets fans and Italian fans also have to hope that Rudy gay continues in his scoring slump: Gallo may be a much more efficient scorer and probably a better defender too, but we all know that in a popularity context like the allstar game the coaches would pick Gay before Gallo based on reputation.

That is, if Gallo even maintains 20/5/3, which I don't think he will. IMO he'll stay around 18-19/5-6/2-3 for the rest of the year.

MagnusPinus · Post #13 » by **MagnusPinus** » Fri Jan 13, 2012 7:29 pm

Talking about GAllinari.. he is talking contract.. I don't know what u think, but considering the contracts that Nené and Afflalo signed I'm pretty scared, if I'm the Nuggets to see how much he is gonna ask.. To me he is close to max contract, being a top 5 SF in the league, and an absolute great defender.. especially considering how Afflalo was overpaid.. Pretty scaring considering there is still Ty to be signed in the future.

hustlenflow · Post #14 » by **hustlenflow** » Sat Jan 14, 2012 4:30 am

Haven't seen him play since he left the knicks really... watching him tonight..nothing special thorugh the first in terms of stats, but his arms look relatively enormous, and he's running the floor without that lack of acceleration that he had throughout much of his career without the knicks. Looked quick on some plays that he didn't score on, and was D'ing up LeBron pretty nasty.

I gotta say, I love watchin this kid play for some reason, he's got real potential. He's a winner plain and simple IMO.