Whats the value of Andre Miller

Warriorfan · Post #1 » by **Warriorfan** » Fri Nov 22, 2013 3:28 am

As a consensus on the Warrior board Andre Miller is the player would most likely trade for.

What would be fair compensation. GS has no picks that it can trade til 2017, They do have a TPE of 11 mil.

Post #2 » by **The Rebel** » Fri Nov 22, 2013 3:42 am

The Nuggets like Miller, posters are split on him, but in the end I doubt they trade him for a TPE and pick 4 or 5 years from now.

DaFan334 · Post #3 » by **DaFan334** » Fri Nov 22, 2013 7:37 am

Andre still brings a bit to the team, so I doubt they dump him for nothing. Despite his age, he is still very reliable and surprisingly seems to be alright playing in the back court with the smaller Nate and Ty. If the Nuggets could get good value packaging him with another player, they would have to listen to moving him. But unless a good package comes, I would guess they are happy keeping him around.

eathb_au · Post #4 » by **eathb_au** » Fri Nov 22, 2013 7:48 am

Personally, I would take the TE and any picks just to shorten the rotation.

pickaxe · Post #5 » by **pickaxe** » Fri Nov 22, 2013 1:48 pm

Miller might have more value in Denver than anywhere else.\, but he would be an upgrade to a lot of teams. At least while we keep him he has very high motivation. He got a taste of his first playoff win last season. imho we go purely by effort and production and positive effect on the other players.

Plus we do not know if the rotation would be quite the same.

Sure it would shorten the rotation but it would also shorten the PG position...

Post #6 » by **The Rebel** » Fri Nov 22, 2013 2:26 pm

The problem is that the Nuggets would not have a real backup PG if they traded Miller, say what you will but I do not think either Foye or Robinson are guys you want trying to run the offense.

eathb_au · Post #7 » by **eathb_au** » Fri Nov 22, 2013 4:13 pm

I don't know what the stats say but my eye test says that Andre Miller has played very little at PG this season.

And I certainly do not want Milker eating into Fournier's minutes which seem to be the case right now.

darivo · Post #8 » by **darivo** » Fri Nov 22, 2013 7:47 pm

eathb_au wrote:I don't know what the stats say but my eye test says that Andre Miller has played very little at PG this season.

And I certainly do not want Milker eating into Fournier's minutes which seem to be the case right now.

I agree.
Miller played at sg when he was with nate together.

Warriorfan · Post #9 » by **Warriorfan** » Fri Nov 22, 2013 11:16 pm

GS can take in about 4 mil more then they send out
Players they could send Mareese Speights Draymond Green Feztus Ezeli Kent Bazemore hurt right now

pickaxe · Post #10 » by **pickaxe** » Sat Nov 23, 2013 2:24 am

Milker? lol

Well, Miller playing very little is still going to have a profoundly different effect than no Miller at all. Once he's gone you're not going to have as Rebel said, a true backup PG. We REALLY do not want Robinson running the offense as a backup pg. Trading Miller just puts the team out on a limb it does not need to be on.

There's not really a vision of what the next manifestation of this team will look like. Last thing we need is a leap at pg without considering all of the other positions. Change the pg we really will have to evaluate all of the other positions.

eathb_au · Post #11 » by **eathb_au** » Sat Nov 23, 2013 2:46 am

The true backup PG argument is redundant when we don't even use one. Andre Miller's efficient season so far has been from playing 2 guard, but if using the past 5 games as a sample, Hamilton and Fournier's improvements/emergence has cut his minutes significantly. If moving Miller means more minutes to developing Ham/Fours then I'd do it.

pickaxe · Post #12 » by **pickaxe** » Sat Nov 23, 2013 1:53 pm

....and.......ouch, Iguodala's hamstring pops.

Don't know what to think what it means for the Warriors, but it certainly alters circumstances for them.

:oops:

pickaxe · Post #13 » by **pickaxe** » Sat Nov 23, 2013 1:56 pm

eathb_au wrote:The true backup PG argument is redundant when we don't even use one. Andre Miller's efficient season so far has been from playing 2 guard, but if using the past 5 games as a sample, Hamilton and Fournier's improvements/emergence has cut his minutes significantly. If moving Miller means more minutes to developing Ham/Fours then I'd do it.

In the past it hasn't translated to more minutes for young players. Maybe I'm just a bit callous from when GK did not actually develop players, but it certainly makes it hard to see it happening perfectly as envisioned.