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In retrospect... 

Post#1 » by torotoe » Thu Sep 24, 2015 10:10 pm

The team this year could have been:

Mudiay
Fournier/Harris
Gallo
Faried/Chandler
Gobert/Nurkic

Obviously, this is not how things work. Who knows where they would have picked, who would have been available, etc. I'm just talking about the two poor trades the nuggets have made in recent memory. #27 for cash. And Fournier for AAA who we eventually turned into Will Barton. No disrespect to Barton, but Fournier is a younger prospect with a higher ceiling.

It would have been nice to watch a team like that grow.
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Re: In retrospect... 

Post#2 » by skywalker33 » Fri Sep 25, 2015 4:01 am

In Retrospect.....we could possibly get Fournier back, he's a free agent after this season, so this just highlights that we could have had Gobert if we didn't trade that 1st away to Utah. But realistically, no one knew what Gobert would turn into, 26 other teams passed on him. Also, we may not have drafted Nurkic if we drafted Rudy and perhaps Harris, keeping the 11th pick may have been a better option.....so there are a lot of changes that could have happened. Chances of the team you selected happening aren't as good as you might think.
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Post#3 » by The Rebel » Fri Sep 25, 2015 6:12 am

I do not get the fascination with Gobert, he is a good big, and close to dominant on defense but I see a poor man's mutombo when I watch him. Yes he will have an affect on games, and yes he is a difference maker, but the way some fans talk about him he is the 2nd coming of Shaq, and I just do not ever see him having close to that affect on the game. Depending on how healthy his knee is, I see Nurkic as having the potential to be a pretty dominant defensive big in his own right, and he has some nice offensive skills to compliment that talent.

I would like to have Fournier back, but in the end it worked out as we got Barton and a future pick, and considering the way Fournier was floundering under Shaw that could have got nasty and ruined Fournier's NBA career before it ever got started.
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Re: In retrospect... 

Post#4 » by basketbob » Wed Sep 30, 2015 7:14 pm

Saddest little detail in that scenario was fournier's 'yahoo!' tweet when he saw that we had drafted gobert. Which was the bigger mistake? Passing on gobert or hiring shaw?
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Re: In retrospect... 

Post#5 » by StunnaStan » Mon Oct 12, 2015 2:29 pm

All trolling aside, in retrospect, should the Nuggets have drafted Stanley Johnson? hes averaging 17.7 off the bench in limited minutes and shoots above 50% from the 3point line while knocking down 2 per game. Hasn't shown a weakness in his game yet.

The kid really couldve helped denver out. Your thoughts?
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Re: In retrospect... 

Post#6 » by skywalker33 » Mon Oct 12, 2015 3:41 pm

StunnaStan wrote:All trolling aside, in retrospect, should the Nuggets have drafted Stanley Johnson? hes averaging 17.7 off the bench in limited minutes and shoots above 50% from the 3point line while knocking down 2 per game. Hasn't shown a weakness in his game yet.

The kid really couldve helped denver out. Your thoughts?

PG was a bigger need for the Nuggets and in the long run Mudiay was NO DOUBT the right player for the Nuggets. Johnson is primarily a SF which we have covered, he ISN"T a SG as you seem to suggest. Johnson is shooting better than I expected and looks likes he going to be a heckuva player for the Pistons (vs. EC opponents btw), but Mudiay has the opportunity to make Denver's young talent even better and that speaks volumes to me.
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Re: In retrospect... 

Post#7 » by StunnaStan » Mon Oct 12, 2015 6:01 pm

At this point i dont mind johnson playing 2 through 4 but svg actually elected to have johnson run point guard when they played against the pacers over dinwidde so that speaks volumes of his versatility.

Mudiay is good don't get me wrong. I prefer his style of play over a john wall. Its as simple as shooting jumpers consistently and reducing turnovers from what ive seen from mudiay but he attacks the basket well off the dribble. Once he gets a jumper, i think he can be a bigger version of monta ellis with better court vision. He needs a better sg next to him.
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Re: In retrospect... 

Post#8 » by skywalker33 » Wed Oct 14, 2015 5:46 pm

StunnaStan wrote:At this point i dont mind johnson playing 2 through 4 but svg actually elected to have johnson run point guard when they played against the pacers over dinwidde so that speaks volumes of his versatility.

Mudiay is good don't get me wrong. I prefer his style of play over a john wall. Its as simple as shooting jumpers consistently and reducing turnovers from what ive seen from mudiay but he attacks the basket well off the dribble. Once he gets a jumper, i think he can be a bigger version of monta ellis with better court vision. He needs a better sg next to him.


Mudiay put up 16/9 against the defending champs with just 2 TO's.....if he keeps that up we'll have the next ROTY here, not bad for a rookie IMO
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Re: In retrospect... 

Post#9 » by skywalker33 » Thu Oct 22, 2015 3:15 am

StunnaStan wrote:At this point i dont mind johnson playing 2 through 4 but svg actually elected to have johnson run point guard when they played against the pacers over dinwidde so that speaks volumes of his versatility.

Mudiay is good don't get me wrong. I prefer his style of play over a john wall. Its as simple as shooting jumpers consistently and reducing turnovers from what ive seen from mudiay but he attacks the basket well off the dribble. Once he gets a jumper, i think he can be a bigger version of monta ellis with better court vision. He needs a better sg next to him.


So, ANOTHER sub-par performance from your boy Stanley, while Mudiay is scoring 22pt and 5rebs...maybe you were a bit premature on your assessment of who the better player is :lol:
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Re: In retrospect... 

Post#10 » by MHZ » Thu Oct 22, 2015 5:28 pm

I pop back in from time to time, and we're always having the same conversation.

It's not a worthwhile exercise to compare these guys on a game-to-game basis this year. Mudiay plays a much more challenging position, and is being given the keys to lead this team. I expect Stanley Johnson to have better shooting % numbers, along with fewer turnovers. Mudiay is going to have some clunkers this year, but that's okay. The Nuggets aren't a playoff team. PG is the closest the NBA has to a Quarterback - he's going to throw a whole bunch of picks this year. He's also going to have some really impressive TDs. It's important that he gets both. Look at every great PG in the league, and their rookie #s are atrocious.

Mudiay was the choice because it was a shot at a franchise-altering player. I don't see a scenario where Stanley Johnson is that, regardless of how effective he is at the pro level.

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