Grading Nuggets So Far

[NuggetsWY]

Jokic - needs the ball more
Plumlee - doing what he's paid for
Millsap - we're going to miss him
Faried - glad to see him getting minutes
Lyles - surprising me and I like him so much I might forgive the front office for their stupid trade (but it was still stupid)
Hernangomez - needs more minutes
Chandler - very disappointing
Jefferson - if we have an SF issue, this guy could help if given the minutes
Harris - doing great but needs to take more shots, he's that good
Barton - holding the bench together (better than anyone else anyway)
Beasley - would like to see more minutes, but that's not going to be easy
Murray - inconsistent but impressive, he's getting there and finally getting some minutes
Mudiay - disappointing: his shot, his turnovers, his defense

[HoopsMalone]

Jokic: A+ Truly an elite player on both ends. Impressive leap made on defense. Will obviously get the max. Still great value.
Plumlee: D- Has been really bad on both ends. A bad trade, but an even worse extension.
Millsap: B A very good defender but just a guy on offense. Thankfully, team option on year 3 (very unlikely to exercise IMO)
Faried: D Bad on both ends. He was just born a decade or two too late. His game is not for this era.
Lyles: D- Bad on offense, worse on defense. Has shown nothing worthy of being a first round pick or traded for one at either stop.
Hernangomez: C- Marked improvement on defense. Flashes potential on offense.
Chandler: F Just an awful player on both ends. It doesn't help that he's a PF being thrust into SF role he has no hope of fulfilling
Jefferson: Inc Not given any minutes. So very old i doubt he has much left in the tank
Harris: A terrific offensive player and he is above average on defense this year (sucked hard last year)
Barton: C- Good offensive talent, worthless defensively.
Beasley: D Not many minutes, but has done nothing with them
Murray: D The Murray at PG experiment at least for this year has failed. Not good offensively, and very, very bad defensively.
Mudiay: F You can see the potential, but frankly he's still one of the very worst players in the league...


Looking at the long game Denver has the hard part out of the way. Finding the superduperstar. Then they have Harris who is a very good player. Murray and Hernangomez project as solid bench guys even if they never develop into worthy starters. Millsap is getting old so if the Nugs aren't competitive next year at the deadline I'd move him to a contender rather than exercise the option. (Perhaps even take back a bad contract or two and acquire a first round pick for the trouble?). I'd be looking to clean house with the rest of this roster. There is a lot of good young talent entering the league and teams are cap/luxury tax stretched. It's an absolute shame the cap wasnt managed a little tighter the last couple of years so they could take advantage.

[skywalker33]

Jokic: A+ Truly an elite player on both ends. Impressive leap made on defense. Will obviously get the max. Still great value.
Plumlee: D- Has been really bad on both ends. A bad trade, but an even worse extension.
Millsap: B A very good defender but just a guy on offense. Thankfully, team option on year 3 (very unlikely to exercise IMO)
Faried: D Bad on both ends. He was just born a decade or two too late. His game is not for this era.
Lyles: D- Bad on offense, worse on defense. Has shown nothing worthy of being a first round pick or traded for one at either stop.
Hernangomez: C- Marked improvement on defense. Flashes potential on offense.
Chandler: F Just an awful player on both ends. It doesn't help that he's a PF being thrust into SF role he has no hope of fulfilling
Jefferson: Inc Not given any minutes. So very old i doubt he has much left in the tank
Harris: A terrific offensive player and he is above average on defense this year (sucked hard last year)
Barton: C- Good offensive talent, worthless defensively.
Beasley: D Not many minutes, but has done nothing with them
Murray: D The Murray at PG experiment at least for this year has failed. Not good offensively, and very, very bad defensively.
Mudiay: F You can see the potential, but frankly he's still one of the very worst players in the league...


Looking at the long game Denver has the hard part out of the way. Finding the superduperstar. Then they have Harris who is a very good player. Murray and Hernangomez project as solid bench guys even if they never develop into worthy starters. Millsap is getting old so if the Nugs aren't competitive next year at the deadline I'd move him to a contender rather than exercise the option. (Perhaps even take back a bad contract or two and acquire a first round pick for the trouble?). I'd be looking to clean house with the rest of this roster. There is a lot of good young talent entering the league and teams are cap/luxury tax stretched. It's an absolute shame the cap wasnt managed a little tighter the last couple of years so they could take advantage.

Wow, SEVEN of out FIFTEEN players with D's or F's and yet we're in first place in our division and 4th seed in the West.....pathetic evaluation IMO.

[NuggetsWY]

Jokic: A+ Truly an elite player on both ends. Impressive leap made on defense. Will obviously get the max. Still great value.
Plumlee: D- Has been really bad on both ends. A bad trade, but an even worse extension.
Millsap: B A very good defender but just a guy on offense. Thankfully, team option on year 3 (very unlikely to exercise IMO)
Faried: D Bad on both ends. He was just born a decade or two too late. His game is not for this era.
Lyles: D- Bad on offense, worse on defense. Has shown nothing worthy of being a first round pick or traded for one at either stop.
Hernangomez: C- Marked improvement on defense. Flashes potential on offense.
Chandler: F Just an awful player on both ends. It doesn't help that he's a PF being thrust into SF role he has no hope of fulfilling
Jefferson: Inc Not given any minutes. So very old i doubt he has much left in the tank
Harris: A terrific offensive player and he is above average on defense this year (sucked hard last year)
Barton: C- Good offensive talent, worthless defensively.
Beasley: D Not many minutes, but has done nothing with them
Murray: D The Murray at PG experiment at least for this year has failed. Not good offensively, and very, very bad defensively.
Mudiay: F You can see the potential, but frankly he's still one of the very worst players in the league...

Looking at the long game Denver has the hard part out of the way. Finding the superduperstar. Then they have Harris who is a very good player. Murray and Hernangomez project as solid bench guys even if they never develop into worthy starters. Millsap is getting old so if the Nugs aren't competitive next year at the deadline I'd move him to a contender rather than exercise the option. (Perhaps even take back a bad contract or two and acquire a first round pick for the trouble?). I'd be looking to clean house with the rest of this roster. There is a lot of good young talent entering the league and teams are cap/luxury tax stretched. It's an absolute shame the cap wasnt managed a little tighter the last couple of years so they could take advantage.

Wow, SEVEN of out FIFTEEN players with D's or F's and yet we're in first place in our division and 4th seed in the West.....pathetic evaluation IMO.

No doubt his favored Hornets are much better than the Nuggets.

[kinggnik87]

I'll join the fun. Here's my take on our team.

Jokic (A-)
Needs to be mentally tough to let the game come to him. I got a feeling he doesn't want the limelight as a Star.
Plumlee (B-)
Performed as how he was paid to do. He needs to work harder though.
Millsap (A)
Provides offensive versatility and consistency, his help defense is really vital in our game.
Faried (B)
He can be a good PF for us, but still not sure whether it fits our system.
Lyles (B-)
I'm surprised by his positive body language for the past few games, encouraging signs from him.
Hernangomez (B-)
A bit rusty, needs more minutes to improve on it.
Chandler (C+)
Disappointing, can't really blame him as he was a natural SF being entrusted into the PF position.
Jefferson (B-)
A great backup SF, his no-fear attitude and veteran leadership is much needed in the team.
Harris (A)
He is consistently improving on offense and defense. Above all, still super efficient.
Barton (B+)
He can be inconsistent sometimes, when he is good, he is incredible.
Beasley (C+)
I like his positive body language and attitude, still makes rookie mistakes, offensively he is okay, but still need a lot more minutes.
Murray (B)
Can be the Curry-type point guard for us, active defense and still suffer from inconsistency, but when he is on fire, we almost always win.
Mudiay (B-)
He needs more minutes to brush off his inconsistency.

[TunaFish]

I am jumping in here to defend Hernangomez because I think we have to remember that Mononucleosis saps your strength for sometime. It can take months to fully recover from this strange virus. I give him an A for effort getting back so soon but incomplete is a better grade.

[skywalker33]

I am jumping in here to defend Hernangomez because I think we have to remember that Mononucleosis saps your strength for sometime. It can take months to fully recover from this strange virus. I give him an A for effort getting back so soon but incomplete is a better grade.

Well, don't think anyone blames Juancho for getting Mono, but it has impacted his performance (or lack thereof) on the court. He will only get better as he regains his strength. INC would be more appropriate but this thread was listed as " so far " not "going forward".

[U hova]

Jokic (A-)
His mental kinda holds him back but he as might as well be A++. When we get torched on pick and rolls I blame Malone's defensive system and not Jokic or even that backup.
Plumlee (Something below F-)
I think I've already explained what I think about him before.
Millsap (A-)
It's a shame that he got hurt and couldn't spend more time with Jokic to perfect that line-up. He's not as bad a fit as I initially thought and he works as our "secondary Jokic" running DHO plays with Harris quite well.
Faried (B)
I like the dude and he's played with positive attitude despite getting his minutes slashed. Unlike another bigman we sub in, he doesn't stagnate the offense by demanding the ball in post-ups that lead nowhere.
Lyles (C+)
I thought this dude was a bust but he's not bad.
Juancho (C+)
He's been alright. Illness sucks. If his defense improved I certainly haven't noticed.
Chandler (D)
If "C" is average, then he has not been it.
Jefferson (C+)
I didn't think the dude was going to get minutes but he's alright.
Harris (A)
He's ranked above Jokic and Millsap even though the 2 are obviously better than him. But Harris is the guy we expected him to be and there's nothing I feel like bringing up to knock him down.
Barton (B)
Some of my least favorite Nuggets games this season have been when Barton single-handedly carries the team because every other line-up is producing trash. I'm thankful for him in those times, but on other nights it feels like he's playing the team out of the game. I really hope Murray becomes consistent because otherwise we're going to give Barton a market value contract that'll look like another overpay.
Beasley (C)
I think Malone forgets this guy exists.
Murray (B-)
I expected more and got less.
Mudiay (B-)
I expected less and got more. But he's regressed ever since Bledsoe got traded which makes me wonder.

HM: Darrell Arthur (A+) what a champ

[NuggetsWY]

I'll join the fun. Here's my take on our team.

Jokic (A-)
Needs to be mentally tough to let the game come to him. I got a feeling he doesn't want the limelight as a Star.
Plumlee (B-)
Performed as how he was paid to do. He needs to work harder though.
Millsap (A)
Provides offensive versatility and consistency, his help defense is really vital in our game.
Faried (B)
He can be a good PF for us, but still not sure whether it fits our system.
Lyles (B-)
I'm surprised by his positive body language for the past few games, encouraging signs from him.
Hernangomez (B-)
A bit rusty, needs more minutes to improve on it.
Chandler (C+)
Disappointing, can't really blame him as he was a natural SF being entrusted into the PF position.
Jefferson (B-)
A great backup SF, his no-fear attitude and veteran leadership is much needed in the team.
Harris (A)
He is consistently improving on offense and defense. Above all, still super efficient.
Barton (B+)
He can be inconsistent sometimes, when he is good, he is incredible.
Beasley (C+)
I like his positive body language and attitude, still makes rookie mistakes, offensively he is okay, but still need a lot more minutes.
Murray (B)
Can be the Curry-type point guard for us, active defense and still suffer from inconsistency, but when he is on fire, we almost always win.
Mudiay (B-)
He needs more minutes to brush off his inconsistency.

Probably some grades I can agree with - but I don't like Beasley's grade. Unfortunately I agree with you regarding his grade.

[NuggetsWY]

Jokic (A-)
His mental kinda holds him back but he as might as well be A++. When we get torched on pick and rolls I blame Malone's defensive system and not Jokic or even that backup.
Plumlee (Something below F-)
I think I've already explained what I think about him before.
Millsap (A-)
It's a shame that he got hurt and couldn't spend more time with Jokic to perfect that line-up. He's not as bad a fit as I initially thought and he works as our "secondary Jokic" running DHO plays with Harris quite well.
Faried (B)
I like the dude and he's played with positive attitude despite getting his minutes slashed. Unlike another bigman we sub in, he doesn't stagnate the offense by demanding the ball in post-ups that lead nowhere.
Lyles (C+)
I thought this dude was a bust but he's not bad.
Juancho (C+)
He's been alright. Illness sucks. If his defense improved I certainly haven't noticed.
Chandler (D)
If "C" is average, then he has not been it.
Jefferson (C+)
I didn't think the dude was going to get minutes but he's alright.
Harris (A)
He's ranked above Jokic and Millsap even though the 2 are obviously better than him. But Harris is the guy we expected him to be and there's nothing I feel like bringing up to knock him down.
Barton (B)
Some of my least favorite Nuggets games this season have been when Barton single-handedly carries the team because every other line-up is producing trash. I'm thankful for him in those times, but on other nights it feels like he's playing the team out of the game. I really hope Murray becomes consistent because otherwise we're going to give Barton a market value contract that'll look like another overpay.
Beasley (C)
I think Malone forgets this guy exists.
Murray (B-)
I expected more and got less.
Mudiay (B-)
I expected less and got more. But he's regressed ever since Bledsoe got traded which makes me wonder.

HM: Darrell Arthur (A+) what a champ

Can't argue with you on most of these - except for Plumlee, but we already knew we disagreed there.

[skywalker33]

Jokic (A-)
His mental kinda holds him back but he as might as well be A++. When we get torched on pick and rolls I blame Malone's defensive system and not Jokic or even that backup.
Plumlee (Something below F-)
I think I've already explained what I think about him before.
Millsap (A-)
It's a shame that he got hurt and couldn't spend more time with Jokic to perfect that line-up. He's not as bad a fit as I initially thought and he works as our "secondary Jokic" running DHO plays with Harris quite well.
Faried (B)
I like the dude and he's played with positive attitude despite getting his minutes slashed. Unlike another bigman we sub in, he doesn't stagnate the offense by demanding the ball in post-ups that lead nowhere.
Lyles (C+)
I thought this dude was a bust but he's not bad.
Juancho (C+)
He's been alright. Illness sucks. If his defense improved I certainly haven't noticed.
Chandler (D)
If "C" is average, then he has not been it.
Jefferson (C+)
I didn't think the dude was going to get minutes but he's alright.
Harris (A)
He's ranked above Jokic and Millsap even though the 2 are obviously better than him. But Harris is the guy we expected him to be and there's nothing I feel like bringing up to knock him down.
Barton (B)
Some of my least favorite Nuggets games this season have been when Barton single-handedly carries the team because every other line-up is producing trash. I'm thankful for him in those times, but on other nights it feels like he's playing the team out of the game. I really hope Murray becomes consistent because otherwise we're going to give Barton a market value contract that'll look like another overpay.
Beasley (C)
I think Malone forgets this guy exists.
Murray (B-)
I expected more and got less.
Mudiay (B-)
I expected less and got more. But he's regressed ever since Bledsoe got traded which makes me wonder.

HM: Darrell Arthur (A+) what a champ

Can't argue with you on most of these - except for Plumlee, but we already knew we disagreed there.

Yeah, "Below an F" is not really fair, he did step up with Jokic being out, had a +28 vs the Lakers, That's al least got to give him a D+

[NuggetsWY]

Plumlee (Something below F-)
I think I've already explained what I think about him before.

Can't argue with you on most of these - except for Plumlee, but we already knew we disagreed there.

Yeah, "Below an F" is not really fair, he did step up with Jokic being out, had a +28 vs the Lakers, That's al least got to give him a D+

I'll give him more credit than that even. It seems that sometimes people expect Plumlee to be "starter-quality". As a start, I'd still give him maybe a D+ or even a C-. As a backup, I'd give him a C+ or maybe a B-. Sure there are better backups, but he actually isn't all that bad IMO - overpaid for sure but that shouldn't factor into our judgement except maybe on our judgement on the people that gave him that contract after no one else apparently even offered him a contract. As an added bonus, everything indicates he's a great teammate and lockerroom type guy. Perhaps if the Nuggets had entered this season with three centers Plumlee might have been the third string and we'd have liked him much better. But that's all just my opinion and I've been wrong before.

[HoopsMalone]

Jokic: A+ Truly an elite player on both ends. Impressive leap made on defense. Will obviously get the max. Still great value.
Plumlee: D- Has been really bad on both ends. A bad trade, but an even worse extension.
Millsap: B A very good defender but just a guy on offense. Thankfully, team option on year 3 (very unlikely to exercise IMO)
Faried: D Bad on both ends. He was just born a decade or two too late. His game is not for this era.
Lyles: D- Bad on offense, worse on defense. Has shown nothing worthy of being a first round pick or traded for one at either stop.
Hernangomez: C- Marked improvement on defense. Flashes potential on offense.
Chandler: F Just an awful player on both ends. It doesn't help that he's a PF being thrust into SF role he has no hope of fulfilling
Jefferson: Inc Not given any minutes. So very old i doubt he has much left in the tank
Harris: A terrific offensive player and he is above average on defense this year (sucked hard last year)
Barton: C- Good offensive talent, worthless defensively.
Beasley: D Not many minutes, but has done nothing with them
Murray: D The Murray at PG experiment at least for this year has failed. Not good offensively, and very, very bad defensively.
Mudiay: F You can see the potential, but frankly he's still one of the very worst players in the league...


Looking at the long game Denver has the hard part out of the way. Finding the superduperstar. Then they have Harris who is a very good player. Murray and Hernangomez project as solid bench guys even if they never develop into worthy starters. Millsap is getting old so if the Nugs aren't competitive next year at the deadline I'd move him to a contender rather than exercise the option. (Perhaps even take back a bad contract or two and acquire a first round pick for the trouble?). I'd be looking to clean house with the rest of this roster. There is a lot of good young talent entering the league and teams are cap/luxury tax stretched. It's an absolute shame the cap wasnt managed a little tighter the last couple of years so they could take advantage.

Wow, SEVEN of out FIFTEEN players with D's or F's and yet we're in first place in our division and 4th seed in the West.....pathetic evaluation IMO.

Pretty thorough and accurate. Team has been riding Jokic/Harris. The guys I gave D's and F's to have thoroughly disappointed or don't get off the bench...

And many Hornets would receive D's and F's I"m not sure what that comment was about.... notably Dwight, Monk, and Frank...

I mean, if anyone can provide justification for giving Chandler ANYTHING higher than a D I'm all ears. That'd be a heck of an argument to make

[Yuri Vaultin]

Lyles: D- Bad on offense, worse on defense. Has shown nothing worthy of being a first round pick or traded for one at either stop.
Murray: D The Murray at PG experiment at least for this year has failed. Not good offensively, and very, very bad defensively.
Mudiay: F You can see the potential, but frankly he's still one of the very worst players in the league...

Do not agree with these.

Lyles has been great when given minutes and has provided production across the board in limited minutes - certainly a surprise there.

Murray was slow out of the gate but has really started clicking with his shot.

Mudiay - an F? He was raw, is still raw but if you read between the lines his shot has improved each season. What exactly were your expectations before the season? If you're giving him an F, I'm guessing they were unreasonable. Do you realize that he's shooting a hair above 40% from 3? Also, keep in mind he is still younger than some rookies.

[NuggetsWY]

Jokic: A+ Truly an elite player on both ends. Impressive leap made on defense. Will obviously get the max. Still great value.
Plumlee: D- Has been really bad on both ends. A bad trade, but an even worse extension.
Millsap: B A very good defender but just a guy on offense. Thankfully, team option on year 3 (very unlikely to exercise IMO)
Faried: D Bad on both ends. He was just born a decade or two too late. His game is not for this era.
Lyles: D- Bad on offense, worse on defense. Has shown nothing worthy of being a first round pick or traded for one at either stop.
Hernangomez: C- Marked improvement on defense. Flashes potential on offense.
Chandler: F Just an awful player on both ends. It doesn't help that he's a PF being thrust into SF role he has no hope of fulfilling
Jefferson: Inc Not given any minutes. So very old i doubt he has much left in the tank
Harris: A terrific offensive player and he is above average on defense this year (sucked hard last year)
Barton: C- Good offensive talent, worthless defensively.
Beasley: D Not many minutes, but has done nothing with them
Murray: D The Murray at PG experiment at least for this year has failed. Not good offensively, and very, very bad defensively.
Mudiay: F You can see the potential, but frankly he's still one of the very worst players in the league...


Looking at the long game Denver has the hard part out of the way. Finding the superduperstar. Then they have Harris who is a very good player. Murray and Hernangomez project as solid bench guys even if they never develop into worthy starters. Millsap is getting old so if the Nugs aren't competitive next year at the deadline I'd move him to a contender rather than exercise the option. (Perhaps even take back a bad contract or two and acquire a first round pick for the trouble?). I'd be looking to clean house with the rest of this roster. There is a lot of good young talent entering the league and teams are cap/luxury tax stretched. It's an absolute shame the cap wasnt managed a little tighter the last couple of years so they could take advantage.

Wow, SEVEN of out FIFTEEN players with D's or F's and yet we're in first place in our division and 4th seed in the West.....pathetic evaluation IMO.

Pretty thorough and accurate. Team has been riding Jokic/Harris. The guys I gave D's and F's to have thoroughly disappointed or don't get off the bench...

And many Hornets would receive D's and F's I"m not sure what that comment was about.... notably Dwight, Monk, and Frank...

I mean, if anyone can provide justification for giving Chandler ANYTHING higher than a D I'm all ears. That'd be a heck of an argument to make

Grades vs $$$ are irrelevant - don't grade a guy worse because the front office gave him more money than he deserved.
If you followed this board, you would know we have more than one contract that fans on here did not like.

Let's PER; which is just one way of ranking players, but it's a well accepted method. It should give us some idea of where the Nuggets players rank.

Consider Plumlee. His PER is 43rd in the NBA for centers. That means he's better than some backups. That's not failing, but I'll agree it's not what we want. But that's hardly a D-, it's gotta be a C or maybe a C-.

Faried is 15th in PER and that is not close to your D rating. That's worthy of at least a B.

Lyles is 18th and that is also not a D for sure.

Chandler is ranked as the 50th best SF. Disappointing? Yes. F? Hardly but I'd go so far as to say it's a D for a starter to be ranked so low.

Barton is ranked as the 10th best SG and you have him at a C? Playing SF is out of position for him, because of his size, but he has certainly overcome that in order to tank so high. You gave Harris an A and perhaps that should be reconsidered since he ranks below Barton.

Beasley is a D? As you say, not enough minutes but he still ranks 52nd at SG and that's hardly a D for someone with so few minutes. So evidently he has done something with those minutes.

Murray is the 36th ranked PG and that's not great for a starter and perhaps he deserves the D you gave him, but let's remember that everyone, literally everyone says that most PGs take a couple of years to adapt to the NBA but your criticism of his offense comes from looking at the stats that you ignore when it suits you. We watch him every single game and his offense is improving - although he has bad games as do most shooters. As for your comments about his defense, there is some justification but what you clearly can't see is that he hustles on defense, so it's just a matter of time. He is also handicapped by a defensive scheme that hurts guards statistically because of the approach towards playing pick-n-roll.

Mudiay is ranked 51st and while we are disappointed, that's hardly a failing mark for a young backup PG. At least he shows up, but sure, a D- but let's give him until the end of this year before labeling him a failure (although I'll grant you that on this one, many others will probably agree with you).

I do like your A+ for Jokic and that's probably where I'd rank him too. However, he's the 12th highest ranked player in the league and the 4th highest ranked center - behind Capela, Whiteside, & Kanter (go figure). A+ to me means perfect and truthfully many of us expect more from him, especially on offense. So perhaps an A+ is a little earlier and we're all buying into the hype. On the other hand, he sure is an A+ in entertainment.

Not saying you can't have your opinion, but to give that negative of grades, just doesn't make sense.

[skywalker33]

Jokic: A+ Truly an elite player on both ends. Impressive leap made on defense. Will obviously get the max. Still great value.
Plumlee: D- Has been really bad on both ends. A bad trade, but an even worse extension.
Millsap: B A very good defender but just a guy on offense. Thankfully, team option on year 3 (very unlikely to exercise IMO)
Faried: D Bad on both ends. He was just born a decade or two too late. His game is not for this era.
Lyles: D- Bad on offense, worse on defense. Has shown nothing worthy of being a first round pick or traded for one at either stop.
Hernangomez: C- Marked improvement on defense. Flashes potential on offense.
Chandler: F Just an awful player on both ends. It doesn't help that he's a PF being thrust into SF role he has no hope of fulfilling
Jefferson: Inc Not given any minutes. So very old i doubt he has much left in the tank
Harris: A terrific offensive player and he is above average on defense this year (sucked hard last year)
Barton: C- Good offensive talent, worthless defensively.
Beasley: D Not many minutes, but has done nothing with them
Murray: D The Murray at PG experiment at least for this year has failed. Not good offensively, and very, very bad defensively.
Mudiay: F You can see the potential, but frankly he's still one of the very worst players in the league...


Looking at the long game Denver has the hard part out of the way. Finding the superduperstar. Then they have Harris who is a very good player. Murray and Hernangomez project as solid bench guys even if they never develop into worthy starters. Millsap is getting old so if the Nugs aren't competitive next year at the deadline I'd move him to a contender rather than exercise the option. (Perhaps even take back a bad contract or two and acquire a first round pick for the trouble?). I'd be looking to clean house with the rest of this roster. There is a lot of good young talent entering the league and teams are cap/luxury tax stretched. It's an absolute shame the cap wasnt managed a little tighter the last couple of years so they could take advantage.

Wow, SEVEN of out FIFTEEN players with D's or F's and yet we're in first place in our division and 4th seed in the West.....pathetic evaluation IMO.

Pretty thorough and accurate. Team has been riding Jokic/Harris. The guys I gave D's and F's to have thoroughly disappointed or don't get off the bench

I mean, if anyone can provide justification for giving Chandler ANYTHING higher than a D I'm all ears. That'd be a heck of an argument to make

You REALLY think you're thorough and accurate ??

I won't disagree about Chandler, his play has sucked all season, I am on recorded saying as much. HOWEVER, you also gave A D to Trey Lyles stating " Bad on offense, worse on defense. Has shown nothing worthy of being a first round pick or traded for one at either stop". 7, the guy is just 21yo so he still isn't close to his prime, he's still learning. On his PER 36 he's averaging 17ppg and 8.5rpg, I'd EASILY consider that good offense for a first rounder in a backup postion, shows potential as a future starter. THOROUGH AND ACCURATE, huh ???

Murray you said "The Murray at PG experiment at least for this year has failed. Not good offensively, and very, very bad defensively.". Again I point out that the guy is just 20yrs old and this year is far from over. With Jokic directing the offense, Murray isn't ecprected to play the traditional PG, something most true Nuggets fans know and acknowledge. Playing off the ball, Murray is avg 14.4ppg on 43% shooting (he could up his 3pt % from 30% would make him even better) up 69% from his rookie year in just 6 more mins per game. His defense has been average not spectacular but that's expected of 2nd year players. THOROUGH AND ACCURATE...right ??

On Mudiay you wrote " You can see the potential, but frankly he's still one of the very worst players in the league...". Seems a bit of an oxymoron, you see the potential but he's one of the worst in the league...then HOW do you see the potentiail ???? I'll agree he has had some up and down games but to say he's one of the worst is just moronic. He too is under 22yo has increased BOTH his offense shooting % as well as become a better defender, which you'd notice if you watched the games.

Your statements come across with no validation, troll-like and almost childish with the intent to create controversy. And then to top it off, you CLAIM to be a Nuggets fan, pathetic to say when all you can do is cut down the team, nothing redeeming about your posts whatsoever.

[NuggetsWY]

Let's leave this recent set of posts behind and look at something that seems out of perspective.

HoopsHabit's power ranking for this week says the Nuggets are #17 and yeah, I get that, but then they point out the Nuggets are #5 in the west - that seemed strange to me even though we went .500 for the week. How can we be ranked so low when there are only 8 teams with a better record in the NBA? (And that's after last night's abysmal performance.)

Where would I rank the Nuggets? 9th? Like their record? Probably not, but #17 just seems like total disrespect. It's been a rough start to the season, but REALLY!?!