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Re: Malone Says 

Post#21 » by skywalker33 » Wed Jan 10, 2018 3:51 am

U hova wrote:Start Faried or Juancho, Start Craig, bring Chandler off the bench, use Lyles as a 5 and Chandler at the 4 so that Barton and Chandler can have an easier time free lancing to the rim in their sixth/seventh men scoring roles.


...then we can be back in position for another lottery pick. :roll:
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Exactly as I've been saying all along !!
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Post#22 » by NuggetsWY » Wed Jan 10, 2018 4:07 am

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U hova wrote:Start Faried or Juancho, Start Craig, bring Chandler off the bench, use Lyles as a 5 and Chandler at the 4 so that Barton and Chandler can have an easier time free lancing to the rim in their sixth/seventh men scoring roles.

...then we can be back in position for another lottery pick. :roll:

Nah, I believe even Malone can't keep this team out of the playoffs.
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Re: Malone Says 

Post#23 » by skywalker33 » Wed Jan 10, 2018 6:18 am

NuggetsWY wrote:
skywalker33 wrote:
U hova wrote:Start Faried or Juancho, Start Craig, bring Chandler off the bench, use Lyles as a 5 and Chandler at the 4 so that Barton and Chandler can have an easier time free lancing to the rim in their sixth/seventh men scoring roles.

...then we can be back in position for another lottery pick. :roll:

Nah, I believe even Malone can't keep this team out of the playoffs.


You say that but we're only 2.5 games ahead of LAC and they're dealing with injuries in a bad way. Malone has issues so it's not impossible, that's for sure. Besides moving up into the draft, the only other thing good that would come out of it would be Malone's firing, that's for sure. But i do agree, pretty sure we'll make the playoffs
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Re: Malone Says 

Post#24 » by NuggetsWY » Wed Jan 10, 2018 11:41 pm

It's been almost a month since Malone said, "Players need to earn their minutes." How's he doing with that?


I'd say he still plays his chosen 8 or 9 and sticks with them, for the most part.
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Re: Malone Says 

Post#25 » by skywalker33 » Thu Jan 11, 2018 4:29 am

NuggetsWY wrote:
skywalker33 wrote:
U hova wrote:Start Faried or Juancho, Start Craig, bring Chandler off the bench, use Lyles as a 5 and Chandler at the 4 so that Barton and Chandler can have an easier time free lancing to the rim in their sixth/seventh men scoring roles.

...then we can be back in position for another lottery pick. :roll:

Nah, I believe even Malone can't keep this team out of the playoffs.


You were saying......
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Re: Malone Says 

Post#26 » by NuggetsWY » Thu Jan 11, 2018 4:32 am

skywalker33 wrote:
NuggetsWY wrote:
skywalker33 wrote:...then we can be back in position for another lottery pick. :roll:

Nah, I believe even Malone can't keep this team out of the playoffs.


You were saying......

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Re: Malone Says 

Post#27 » by NuggetsWY » Thu Jan 11, 2018 1:09 pm

http://www.nba.com/nuggets/news/back-to-basics-loss-atlanta-011018

“I’m not going to use the word embarrassing because that would be disrespectful to Atlanta,” Malone said. “You’ve got to give them credit; they came in here and beat us. But for us to come out with the lack of energy, lack of a sense of urgency, was really disappointing. At the end of the day, I put this loss on me. Obviously, I’m not doing my job to get this team ready to play. Whether it’s the Philadelphia game without Joel Embiid, whether it’s at Sacramento, or tonight, we come out thinking we can just show up.”

After 2 1/2 years, Malone is finally figuring it out - he's not doing his job to get this team ready to play.
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Re: Malone Says 

Post#28 » by NuggetsWY » Mon Jan 22, 2018 6:13 pm

https://www.denverstiffs.com/2018/1/21/16918292/michael-malone-has-a-plan-to-get-the-denver-nuggets-offense-back-on-track-nba-portland-trail-blazers

Adam Mares most recent podcast was interesting - at about the 20 minute mark, Malone said he was calling far more plays this year than last year. He said that not having a called play is more difficult for other teams to deal with because your team is just reacting to whatever the defense gives them (not a quote, but the concept).

Let's hope he stops calling plays.

After the last game, he also hinted at making a lineup change. Early on, Mares says it wouldn't be Jokic or Harris or Murray and since Lyles was just put into the starting lineup, the change might be Chandler. If Malone is going back to last year's offense, it seems to me that Jokic, Harris, Murray belong together and Lyles might fit quite nicely. The question becomes, who is the other forward?

Faried would be my choice. He worked well with that offense last year.
Craig might be a good choice. Perhaps Hernangomez if he's able - I'd like him.
Plumlee? Nope, IMO he's an ideal Jokic backup but I would never play him with Jokic.
Hopefully Barton comes off the bench. He seems best suited for that role.
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Re: Malone Says 

Post#29 » by Apples123 » Mon Jan 22, 2018 7:17 pm

NuggetsWY wrote:https://www.denverstiffs.com/2018/1/21/16918292/michael-malone-has-a-plan-to-get-the-denver-nuggets-offense-back-on-track-nba-portland-trail-blazers

Adam Mares most recent podcast was interesting - at about the 20 minute mark, Malone said he was calling far more plays this year than last year. He said that not having a called play is more difficult for other teams to deal with because your team is just reacting to whatever the defense gives them (not a quote, but the concept).

Let's hope he stops calling plays.

After the last game, he also hinted at making a lineup change. Early on, Mares says it wouldn't be Jokic or Harris or Murray and since Lyles was just put into the starting lineup, the change might be Chandler. If Malone is going back to last year's offense, it seems to me that Jokic, Harris, Murray belong together and Lyles might fit quite nicely. The question becomes, who is the other forward?

Faried would be my choice. He worked well with that offense last year.
Craig might be a good choice. Perhaps Hernangomez if he's able - I'd like him.
Plumlee? Nope, IMO he's an ideal Jokic backup but I would never play him with Jokic.
Hopefully Barton comes off the bench. He seems best suited for that role.


I'd like to see Murray-Harris-Chandler-Faried-Jokic, personally. Then a bench could be Mudiay-Barton-SF-Juancho/Lyles-Plumlee.

Please be fair to Barton and let him play SG off of the bench. You're asking too much of him right now and messing around with his position. Some people want him to play point or SF when I'm pretty sure he's most naturally comfortable at SG. Let's play to his strengths instead of abusing his versatility.

Since we lost Jameer (a big blunder, let's not even go there...) I think Mudiay would be fine off of the bench. Let him get some good minutes and learn. The talent has always been there and he can 100% be a great player in this league, but if his "turnovers" are as big of an issue as Malone makes them out to be then he could for sure go to the G-League and work that out before coming back up and being ready for the rotation, which long-term he absolutely can do.

If that were the case then we can figure out a temporary fix at backup PG, whether that's Morris or someone else. Honestly though I'm not really a fan of using G-League players to try and plug holes on the roster; that's an Orlando Magic move. Time to stop mismanaging our assets when we've already lost Nurk and Jameer. There's more to say that I'm probably forgetting, too.
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Re: Malone Says 

Post#30 » by NuggetsWY » Mon Jan 22, 2018 7:39 pm

Apples123 wrote:
NuggetsWY wrote:https://www.denverstiffs.com/2018/1/21/16918292/michael-malone-has-a-plan-to-get-the-denver-nuggets-offense-back-on-track-nba-portland-trail-blazers

Adam Mares most recent podcast was interesting - at about the 20 minute mark, Malone said he was calling far more plays this year than last year. He said that not having a called play is more difficult for other teams to deal with because your team is just reacting to whatever the defense gives them (not a quote, but the concept).

Let's hope he stops calling plays.

After the last game, he also hinted at making a lineup change. Early on, Mares says it wouldn't be Jokic or Harris or Murray and since Lyles was just put into the starting lineup, the change might be Chandler. If Malone is going back to last year's offense, it seems to me that Jokic, Harris, Murray belong together and Lyles might fit quite nicely. The question becomes, who is the other forward?

Faried would be my choice. He worked well with that offense last year.
Craig might be a good choice. Perhaps Hernangomez if he's able - I'd like him.
Plumlee? Nope, IMO he's an ideal Jokic backup but I would never play him with Jokic.
Hopefully Barton comes off the bench. He seems best suited for that role.

I'd like to see Murray-Harris-Chandler-Faried-Jokic, personally. Then a bench could be Mudiay-Barton-SF-Juancho/Lyles-Plumlee.

Please be fair to Barton and let him play SG off of the bench. You're asking too much of him right now and messing around with his position. Some people want him to play point or SF when I'm pretty sure he's most naturally comfortable at SG. Let's play to his strengths instead of abusing his versatility.

Since we lost Jameer (a big blunder, let's not even go there...) I think Mudiay would be fine off of the bench. Let him get some good minutes and learn. The talent has always been there and he can 100% be a great player in this league, but if his "turnovers" are as big of an issue as Malone makes them out to be then he could for sure go to the G-League and work that out before coming back up and being ready for the rotation, which long-term he absolutely can do.

If that were the case then we can figure out a temporary fix at backup PG, whether that's Morris or someone else. Honestly though I'm not really a fan of using G-League players to try and plug holes on the roster; that's an Orlando Magic move. Time to stop mismanaging our assets when we've already lost Nurk and Jameer. There's more to say that I'm probably forgetting, too.

Well, I clearly said Barton should be a bench player. However, as you point out, the Nuggets do not have a backup PG - so Barton plays a lot of point and he does not seem very good at it (that's Malone's choice and most of our regulars here do not like it). He's a great bench shooting guard and can play SF against some teams - certainly not against some of the larger/taller/stronger SFs, but he's OK at SF sometimes.

Letting Nelson go wasn't really a blunder. His style of play did not fit with the Nuggets. He's a traditional PG type and rather good at it. The Nuggets needed someone else and as long as Nelson was here, Malone (a traditional thinking coach IMO) was never going to give Murray a shot at PG. Murray seems to be working well, but still learning. Meanwhile, Mudiay is our only backup and he has not developed well. He has improved in some areas but he still shoots his jumper on the way down too often and has a rather high turnover ratio. But he's the best option the Nuggets have as a backup PG and Malone just won't play him unless Murray or Barton are injured.

But your reply was to a post regarding forwards and you are all about guards. Who do you think should be the starting forwards?
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Re: Malone Says 

Post#31 » by Apples123 » Mon Jan 22, 2018 8:17 pm

NuggetsWY wrote:
Apples123 wrote:
NuggetsWY wrote:https://www.denverstiffs.com/2018/1/21/16918292/michael-malone-has-a-plan-to-get-the-denver-nuggets-offense-back-on-track-nba-portland-trail-blazers

Adam Mares most recent podcast was interesting - at about the 20 minute mark, Malone said he was calling far more plays this year than last year. He said that not having a called play is more difficult for other teams to deal with because your team is just reacting to whatever the defense gives them (not a quote, but the concept).

Let's hope he stops calling plays.

After the last game, he also hinted at making a lineup change. Early on, Mares says it wouldn't be Jokic or Harris or Murray and since Lyles was just put into the starting lineup, the change might be Chandler. If Malone is going back to last year's offense, it seems to me that Jokic, Harris, Murray belong together and Lyles might fit quite nicely. The question becomes, who is the other forward?

Faried would be my choice. He worked well with that offense last year.
Craig might be a good choice. Perhaps Hernangomez if he's able - I'd like him.
Plumlee? Nope, IMO he's an ideal Jokic backup but I would never play him with Jokic.
Hopefully Barton comes off the bench. He seems best suited for that role.

I'd like to see Murray-Harris-Chandler-Faried-Jokic, personally. Then a bench could be Mudiay-Barton-SF-Juancho/Lyles-Plumlee.

Please be fair to Barton and let him play SG off of the bench. You're asking too much of him right now and messing around with his position. Some people want him to play point or SF when I'm pretty sure he's most naturally comfortable at SG. Let's play to his strengths instead of abusing his versatility.

Since we lost Jameer (a big blunder, let's not even go there...) I think Mudiay would be fine off of the bench. Let him get some good minutes and learn. The talent has always been there and he can 100% be a great player in this league, but if his "turnovers" are as big of an issue as Malone makes them out to be then he could for sure go to the G-League and work that out before coming back up and being ready for the rotation, which long-term he absolutely can do.

If that were the case then we can figure out a temporary fix at backup PG, whether that's Morris or someone else. Honestly though I'm not really a fan of using G-League players to try and plug holes on the roster; that's an Orlando Magic move. Time to stop mismanaging our assets when we've already lost Nurk and Jameer. There's more to say that I'm probably forgetting, too.

Well, I clearly said Barton should be a bench player. However, as you point out, the Nuggets do not have a backup PG - so Barton plays a lot of point and he does not seem very good at it (that's Malone's choice and most of our regulars here do not like it). He's a great bench shooting guard and can play SF against some teams - certainly not against some of the larger/taller/stronger SFs, but he's OK at SF sometimes.

Letting Nelson go wasn't really a blunder. His style of play did not fit with the Nuggets. He's a traditional PG type and rather good at it. The Nuggets needed someone else and as long as Nelson was here, Malone (a traditional thinking coach IMO) was never going to give Murray a shot at PG. Murray seems to be working well, but still learning. Meanwhile, Mudiay is our only backup and he has not developed well. He has improved in some areas but he still shoots his jumper on the way down too often and has a rather high turnover ratio. But he's the best option the Nuggets have as a backup PG and Malone just won't play him unless Murray or Barton are injured.

But your reply was to a post regarding forwards and you are all about guards. Who do you think should be the starting forwards?


I said Chandler and Faried.

You are taking me for a ride now, I can't really follow your logic. Dating back to the 2016-17 season AKA last year, the goal I guess should have been to start Murray who might be more polished while DEVELOPING Mudiay properly. In the meantime, Jameer could have been the backup until Mudiay was ready to take that role. If Mudiay has a "turnover" problem like Malone seems to think then he could have still gotten rotation minutes as the 3rd PG OR gone to the G-League to work out these kinks because based on the flashes he has shown–Celtics game on the road from last year–he can be a great player in this league.

Malone has started to interfere with this already and it's time to not let him mess with things more. With this sudden "DeAndre to the Blazers" news I'm hoping that we can steal Nurk back.
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Re: Malone Says 

Post#32 » by MidMountain » Tue Jan 23, 2018 4:21 pm

Apples123 wrote:I said Chandler and Faried.

You are taking me for a ride now, I can't really follow your logic. Dating back to the 2016-17 season AKA last year, the goal I guess should have been to start Murray who might be more polished while DEVELOPING Mudiay properly. In the meantime, Jameer could have been the backup until Mudiay was ready to take that role. If Mudiay has a "turnover" problem like Malone seems to think then he could have still gotten rotation minutes as the 3rd PG OR gone to the G-League to work out these kinks because based on the flashes he has shown–Celtics game on the road from last year–he can be a great player in this league.

Malone has started to interfere with this already and it's time to not let him mess with things more. With this sudden "DeAndre to the Blazers" news I'm hoping that we can steal Nurk back.


Dear God, No! Did you forget that time that Nurkic quit on the team and left the arena during a game?
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Re: Malone Says 

Post#33 » by Apples123 » Tue Jan 23, 2018 5:50 pm

MidMountain wrote:
Apples123 wrote:I said Chandler and Faried.

You are taking me for a ride now, I can't really follow your logic. Dating back to the 2016-17 season AKA last year, the goal I guess should have been to start Murray who might be more polished while DEVELOPING Mudiay properly. In the meantime, Jameer could have been the backup until Mudiay was ready to take that role. If Mudiay has a "turnover" problem like Malone seems to think then he could have still gotten rotation minutes as the 3rd PG OR gone to the G-League to work out these kinks because based on the flashes he has shown–Celtics game on the road from last year–he can be a great player in this league.

Malone has started to interfere with this already and it's time to not let him mess with things more. With this sudden "DeAndre to the Blazers" news I'm hoping that we can steal Nurk back.


Dear God, No! Did you forget that time that Nurkic quit on the team and left the arena during a game?


That never happened, and even if something like that did happen with this team, it would be with the context of how Malone coaches, his coaching philosophy, and how he treats the players. So I'm not really sure what you're getting at here. NEXT QUESTION!!!

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