TunaFish wrote:The Rebel wrote:NuggetsWY wrote:I agree that our bench issue isn't Beasley and as Grant starts hitting shots, it'll get better. Craig can be streaky and of course Plumlee won't be hitting outside shots.
I'm not sure I want to trade Porter (or Beasley). We've looked at Beasley for a while. I'd like to see Porter for a couple of years before we try a trade.
Although I'm down to just two that are untradeable - although some others I'd want a lot back. The only trade I'm interested in is for someone that is a Top-3 on the Nuggets - competing for Top-2 or maybe Top-1.
Don’t get me wrong, I see no reason to trade for any role players, we have to trade for an all star if we start trading guys who should be in the rotation or have high potential.
That being said I am not a huge fan of Porter on this team, and I do not like that he has already bitched on the bench and talked about his minutes in the media. That is not a good sign when your team has so much good depth that him playing is costing you leads. I understand top young talents expect to get some kind of minutes but if the true goal this year is a championship than there is only so much you can play him.
If we make a trade than it should be for this year, and nobody is going to want to wait on developing Porter at that point.
If we do not make an upgrade than it only makes sense to trade guys not in your long term plans for draft picks. I am not sure who those guys are just yet though.
They won't trade Porter unless someone offers a deal they can't refuse and that would have to be for an allstar caliber player. The great players move themselves around these days. Even if they found such a player, they would need another large contract with Porter's to match salaries in a trade. They also don't have a 1st round pick and they need players on cheap rookie deals besides Bol. Porter is raw but the potential is unmistakable. The interest in Beasley is tied to a contract crunch that is on its way at the end of the season.
Who do you want to keep among the restricted free agents: Morris, Beasley or Hernangomez?
Who do you want back among the unrestricted free agents: Millsap, Plumlee, Craig or Grant?
And who can they afford with Murray's extension kicking in? I don't think they can keep them all so Beasley looks like a strong trade target when you crunch the numbers. Shooters like Beasley will be in high demand. Sign and trade looks like a possibility depending on some other team meeting Beasley likely exorbitant contract demands. It is Beasley's demands that could lead to his departure.
From my math we have about $34 million to hit the tax limit depending on what happens to current projections. Personally I think that next year they should be going into the tax depending on if this team gets to the 2nd round at least this year, if they do than they will have to loosen the purse strings at least a little.
For me I keep Grant, Beasley, Morris, Hernangomez, Plumlee, Millsap, and Craig in that order.
I think you can get both Grant and Beasley for contracts starting at $12 million per year each, similar to a Barton sized deal. Grant I see as being a solid 5th starter, and a good enough replacement for Millsap. Beasley brings a much needed spot up shooter that I think is improving on defense and is already a very proven bench scorer, you mention everybody wants a good shooter why should we let one leave when our entire offense depends on 3 point shooting to spread the floor? I also have heard that Beasley and Murray are very close, I do not think losing him is the best option.
Morris to me is going to be the problem keeping, he is a starting quality PG based on last year and how he has been playing lately. Average starting quality PGs seem to get contracts starting between $15-18 million a year, and I just do not see how you pay a backup PG that kind of money. The good news is he is not a free agent next year, unless we cut him. He is on a nonguaranteed deal.
I think Juancho will likely get a contract for something around 5 year $40 million a year, or about 75% of the MLE deals. That will start around $6.5 million a year which is fair for a good rotation hustle guy that can shoot, so I would keep him.
Plumlee I go back and forth on, Centers are getting undervalued on the free agent market, but he is a borderline starting C in a league desperate for Centers. I think he gets overpaid and do not think we can afford him. If we can convince him to sign for about the MLE on a 3 year deal you keep him, but I do not see him signing for about $10 million a year.
I would love to keep Millsap, but the fact is we have Vanderbilt, Bol, Cancar, and if we bring back Grant we will have 4 guys who are all best at PF. I can see him getting a 3 year MLE type of deal and just do not see a way to keep him.
Craig is a luxury to me, he is a very good defender, but he is not a good scorer and is limited in his usefulness. I think he will get an MLE type of deal from a team desperate for a perimeter defender, but do not see anyway we can pay that for him. Now if we can get him for about half of the MLE than we have to keep him.
So keeping Beasley, Morris, Grant, and Juancho we will be somewhere around $138 million for next year. That would leave about $3 million to get a backup Center, which may not be enough forcing us to pay the taxpayer MLE, but I think that is doable putting us just into the luxury tax.
The other option I can see if trading for a long term backup Center and 6th man under longer term contracts that will keep us just under the luxury tax line next season, but that is going to depend heavily on who we can get on the market around the trade deadline.