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Game 1 : Sacramento Kings (0-0) @ Denver Nuggets (0-0) - 9:00 PM

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Re: Game 1 : Sacramento Kings (0-0) @ Denver Nuggets (0-0) - 9:00 PM 

Post#21 » by eathb_au » Thu Dec 24, 2020 7:56 am

FilNugsFan wrote:Missed the game, but that was some crazy ending. It sucks coz we simply had no business losing to Sacramento. Jokic was obviously awesome, but it sure is gonna be tougher winning games with that kind of output from Murray.


We're not a contender if Murray doesn't have his god mode game.

It sucks but we're in trouble if the bubble was an anomaly.

We should be blowing out teams as bad as the Kings even if Murray is a no show. I'm not longer sold on this team.
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Re: Game 1 : Sacramento Kings (0-0) @ Denver Nuggets (0-0) - 9:00 PM 

Post#22 » by Richard Miller » Thu Dec 24, 2020 8:37 am

There was nothing bad about the Kings last night, whoever keeps saying that didn't watch the game, they played well and fought until the last second. Nuggets were alright in the first half and terrible (outside Jokic and MPJ) for the rest of the game. Btw, f***k the refs, If Jokic's name were James or Anthony, he would've shot 20+ FTs on a night like that.
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Post#23 » by Riko » Thu Dec 24, 2020 8:59 am

Just finished to watch the game, Barton was awful, he cost us the game multiple times.
All the guard were awful but I'm pretty sure that with Dozier or Morris instead of Barton in the clutch moment Denver wuold have win this one 99/100
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Re: Game 1 : Sacramento Kings (0-0) @ Denver Nuggets (0-0) - 9:00 PM 

Post#24 » by Mac1958 » Thu Dec 24, 2020 1:11 pm

No excuse for Murray's game. A few of those a season, fine. But they have to be few & far between for him to take the next step from last season. You can't be wondering if one of your top two players is going to show up from game to game.
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Post#25 » by Mickey8 » Thu Dec 24, 2020 1:19 pm

That was 100% foul on Barnes holding Jokic's arm on that last play , if it was Lebron,Doncic or Durant in the place of Jokic, they would been even whistle the technical foul against Barnes , its sad how little credit Jokic have with the refs and hes two time all nba player , two straight season,and Meloun and Denver FO wont do anything to protect their star.
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Post#26 » by psimanic1 » Thu Dec 24, 2020 1:45 pm

We all know Murray plays better without Barton, even in regular season last year that was the case, and thats why we need to trade Barton for someone who doesnt need ball in his hands like he does. He cost us fhe game with that layup in the end, if you wont dunk it with authority hold it and hope for 2 FTs ffs
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Post#27 » by The Rebel » Thu Dec 24, 2020 2:37 pm

We have 6 **** PGs on the roster, so of course the right call is to use Barton who has a long history of bad decisions in late games as our PG. At least we had 3 of the PGs and the wannabe PG on the court at the same time in the 2nd quarter, that way they all get minutes while we ignore defense. It all makes total **** sense.

The league should be ashamed of the way the refs call Jokic, he can get assaulted and the refs call him for a tech if he mentions it.

Murray with his half ass showboating deserved to have this loss hung on his head, but Barton came through in the end to prove that Murray wasn't the biggest issue.

Where was Bol or Nnaji? Rookies or not they would have been better trying to guard Whiteside than Barton or Dozier were.

At least the Porter fouls in the 1st half were rookie foul calls, if he was a veteran he would have had 1 call against him. But since he is a young guy the refs were going to teach him to talk nicer to them.

This team's ceiling is limited as long as they allow Malone to keep his last crutch in Barton. Barton is too stupid and selfish to have the ball in his hands when the game is on the line, but Malone will call his number every **** time.
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Re: Game 1 : Sacramento Kings (0-0) @ Denver Nuggets (0-0) - 9:00 PM 

Post#28 » by Richard Miller » Thu Dec 24, 2020 2:55 pm

This was too good

Read on Twitter


Anyway, it's still just one game, when Green comes back and Murray gets his head out of his behind, it should be better.
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Re: Game 1 : Sacramento Kings (0-0) @ Denver Nuggets (0-0) - 9:00 PM 

Post#29 » by THE J0KER » Thu Dec 24, 2020 3:36 pm

Barton is not to be blamed for this loss because everyone knows that Will will always in the last minute(s) of the close games going to play "hero-ball" with just around 10% of success. It is clearly Malone's fault despite Barton was obviously not his first choice to finish this game, he decides it after Murray was fouled out. Barton can play close to the end or in overtime, but he never should be on the court in the very last minute of the tied game, especially not as a point guard when he is even riskier in crunch time in executing and decisions making.

Dozier seems like the most logical option to replace Murray (because of his defensive skills), but Monte Morris also would be better than Barton as the player famous for safe plays and calm decisions with no turnovers.

Also, Barton for sure can't be blamed for so bad Murray's game yesterday. Barton is a bad fit for Murray, no doubt, but coming from the bench he not shares so many minutes on the court together with Murray like a starter.
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Re: Game 1 : Sacramento Kings (0-0) @ Denver Nuggets (0-0) - 9:00 PM 

Post#30 » by NuggetsWY » Thu Dec 24, 2020 4:21 pm

skywalker33 wrote:Hopefully, we won't underestimate this or any other opponent this season. My biggest concerns tonight are Fox's speed and Murrays consistent poor starts to the season, time for him to realize superstars play the whole season like they do in the bubble !!

Looks like your concerns were right on!

I know Malone likes small-ball but with Jokic as our best point; why did Malone also use Murray & Campazzo & Morris & Dozier? Even worse, we all know that when Barton plays, he thinks he is a point guard. The rotation in this game made zero sense.

Jokic was remarkable, which is not uncommon and which we expect. 42 minutes is a lot, but I really don't think it bothers him.
Millsap had a very nice game; but I wish Malone had limited his minutes more. 36 minutes is too much for a man with his injury history and age.
Porter had a decent enough game. He made some mistakes on defense, but he was very aware of team-defense issues and was making the effort. I do believe he will become better. (Did you notice he added 3 blocks?) There was no problem with his offense and rebounding.
Murray? If he wants to be #2, he cannot have games like that!
Harris had a fairly decent game. It doesn't show up in the box score, but he was active and moving on offense. I believe that is important when playing with Jokic.

Bench was inadequate at best.
Dozier looked like our best bench player.
Hartenstein had 1 rebound and 2 points for every minutes he played - that's impressive. Per 30 minutes that's 10 rebounds and 20 points - probably evidence those types of stats aren't very good. Still, I liked what I saw. Oh yeah, in 9 minutes he also had 2 blocks.
Campazzo is a true, traditional PG and just takes over that role very naturally. But he was also willing to allow someone else to take the point role and play some spot-up. I like his game.
Morris? If he wants serious backup minutes, he cannot have games like that!
Barton came into the game and impressed me with how he fit --- until about 5 minutes later when I was wishing we had traded him for a couple of third round picks. Well, at least his stat line looks decent.

Surely does seem like Malone should have tried Hampton as a Murray replacement. Most players want minutes, which translate to stats which translate to dollars. If someone isn't going to play well, replace them!

Surely does seem like Nnaji would have been a decent match-up against Sacramento bigs. It would have been nice to see at least 10 minutes.

Perhaps a few minutes of Bol would have been beneficial.
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Re: Game 1 : Sacramento Kings (0-0) @ Denver Nuggets (0-0) - 9:00 PM 

Post#31 » by psimanic1 » Thu Dec 24, 2020 11:13 pm

NBA's L2M from Nuggets-Kings isn't pretty. Here's list of incorrect no-calls.

In 4th: Barnes traveling

In OT: Foul on Whiteside defending Jokic, DEN lost ball

Barnes traveling before tying game at 122

Barnes foul on Jokic w/ two seconds left

Barton foul on Barnes' dunk
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Re: Game 1 : Sacramento Kings (0-0) @ Denver Nuggets (0-0) - 9:00 PM 

Post#32 » by eathb_au » Thu Dec 24, 2020 11:15 pm

NBA L2M Report: 4 missed calls go against Nuggets in last 2 minutes of regulation and OT

https://official.nba.com/l2m/L2MReport.html?gameId=0022000019

Q4, 1:52 - Missed travel call on Harrison Barnes during his drive to the basket

Q5, 1:59 - Missed foul call on Whiteside who fouls Jokic, causing him to lose possession

Q5, 8.4 seconds - Missed travel call on Barnes

Q5, 6.2 seconds - Missed foul call on Barnes, who causes Jokic to lose the inbounds pass

4 missed calls in the last 2 minutes is a record against one team.

It's telling that the league views he Kings as a bigger agenda than the Nuggets.
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Re: Game 1 : Sacramento Kings (0-0) @ Denver Nuggets (0-0) - 9:00 PM 

Post#33 » by davoarid » Thu Dec 24, 2020 11:54 pm

I’m really curious what happens with our bench—specifically backup point guard—the next game everyone (JaMychael Green) is healthy.

Hartenstein 5
Green 4
Dozier 3
Barton 2
..... feels like one of Campazzo or Morris is gonna be out of the rotation completely—I don’t see a way around it. Unless we try some SUPER small lineups with Green at the 5???
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Re: Game 1 : Sacramento Kings (0-0) @ Denver Nuggets (0-0) - 9:00 PM 

Post#34 » by davoarid » Fri Dec 25, 2020 12:00 am

Also, unlike most, I’m really not bothered by anything I saw. Bench and MPJ both look great—those are the two things that mattered. Beyond that, we lost on a buzzer-beater on a night our top scorer went 1 for 9 and fouled out. That’s....that’s just kinda what’s *supposed* to happen. We’d have won if Murray hadn’t had the worst game of his career. No use dwelling on that!
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Re: Game 1 : Sacramento Kings (0-0) @ Denver Nuggets (0-0) - 9:00 PM 

Post#35 » by NuggetsWY » Fri Dec 25, 2020 1:02 am

Last two minutes - terrible === worse, it should never have come down to that!
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Post#36 » by Mickey8 » Fri Dec 25, 2020 3:12 pm

eathb_au wrote:NBA L2M Report: 4 missed calls go against Nuggets in last 2 minutes of regulation and OT

https://official.nba.com/l2m/L2MReport.html?gameId=0022000019

Q4, 1:52 - Missed travel call on Harrison Barnes during his drive to the basket

Q5, 1:59 - Missed foul call on Whiteside who fouls Jokic, causing him to lose possession

Q5, 8.4 seconds - Missed travel call on Barnes

Q5, 6.2 seconds - Missed foul call on Barnes, who causes Jokic to lose the inbounds pass

4 missed calls in the last 2 minutes is a record against one team.

It's telling that the league views he Kings as a bigger agenda than the Nuggets.

Denver have zero credibility and are screwed up even against the teams that are lottery bound.
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Post#37 » by The Rebel » Sat Dec 26, 2020 1:36 am

eathb_au wrote:NBA L2M Report: 4 missed calls go against Nuggets in last 2 minutes of regulation and OT

https://official.nba.com/l2m/L2MReport.html?gameId=0022000019

Q4, 1:52 - Missed travel call on Harrison Barnes during his drive to the basket

Q5, 1:59 - Missed foul call on Whiteside who fouls Jokic, causing him to lose possession

Q5, 8.4 seconds - Missed travel call on Barnes

Q5, 6.2 seconds - Missed foul call on Barnes, who causes Jokic to lose the inbounds pass

4 missed calls in the last 2 minutes is a record against one team.

It's telling that the league views he Kings as a bigger agenda than the Nuggets.


We have to overcome that kind of reffing, it was no worse than what we got against the Lakers in the conference finals, and we are talking about the Kings here.

Truth is we all know that Murray starts slow, that was no surprise. We have plenty of talent on this team, but the chemistry is off. You have to give guys time to figure out their roles. My biggest issue was Malone with Barton again, that is what cost us this game. He decides to take over and Jokic struggles to touch the ball. Everybody else turns into spectators as they know they are not getting the ball.

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