The New Improved 2021-2022 Trade/Offseason Thread

[Richard Miller]

With Nnaji waiting to take some mins, easy to see why Green opted out, just hope we might get a S&T there. Green has some value but none that I can't see Nnaji being able to replace at a much cheaper deal. Perhaps we could get some back-court help in return for Green.

Don't think there's big market for Green though. Barton (if healthy) can do a bit of everything, Green is much more limited. Wouldn't be surprised if Green is back.

[NuggetsWY]

Based on discussion so far; is it fair to say we are looking at a roster based on:

Jokic - Bol
Porter - Nnaji - Green (likely)
Gordon - Cancar
Rivers (likely) - Dozier (probable)
Campazzo - Morris - [Murray]

Barton - big question mark
Millsap - possible
McGee - possible
Harrison - possible
Howard - possible

At least one player will be replaced by a draft pick - unless our pick is traded for a future pick.

[NuggetsWY]

Would Justin Jackson be an acceptable backup SF? IMO only if he's competing for minutes at SF & PF and as an emergency backup.

Would Bobby Portis fit on the Nuggets' roster? He brings a great attitude (and really impressed in the finals ). I wouldn't mind picking him up - especially if Millsap & Green are not brought back.

Porter + Gordon - backed up by Nnaji then Portis might be nice IMO.

[skywalker33]

Some options to think about, like TBjr myself

https://www.denverstiffs.com/2021/7/24/22591463/nba-trades-targets-utilizing-denver-nuggets-5-3-million-trade-exception-free-agency

[psimanic1]

We should sign I. Thomas for one year contract until Murray is back, low risk high reward, low salary, nothing to lose tbh

[Richard Miller]

We should sign I. Thomas for one year contract until Murray is back, low risk high reward, low salary, nothing to lose tbh

If you mean IT, then no way, there is nothing to gain and you're wasting a roster spot.

[skywalker33]

We should sign I. Thomas for one year contract until Murray is back, low risk high reward, low salary, nothing to lose tbh

Thomas is the same height as Facu, might create problems with certain back court combos but he can score.

[Richard Miller]

We should sign I. Thomas for one year contract until Murray is back, low risk high reward, low salary, nothing to lose tbh

Thomas is the same height as Facu, might create problems with certain back court combos but he can score.

I'd rather keep Howard in that case. I mean Jeremy Lin, IT, are we talking about 2021 Nuggets or is this 2014 or something?

[skywalker33]

We should sign I. Thomas for one year contract until Murray is back, low risk high reward, low salary, nothing to lose tbh

Thomas is the same height as Facu, might create problems with certain back court combos but he can score.

I'd rather keep Howard in that case. I mean Jeremy Lin, IT, are we talking about 2021 Nuggets or is this 2014 or something?

Forgot about Howard, much an IT clone w/o the injuries

[The Rebel]

Would Justin Jackson be an acceptable backup SF? IMO only if he's competing for minutes at SF & PF and as an emergency backup.

Would Bobby Portis fit on the Nuggets' roster? He brings a great attitude (and really impressed in the finals ). I wouldn't mind picking him up - especially if Millsap & Green are not brought back.

Porter + Gordon - backed up by Nnaji then Portis might be nice IMO.

Jackson is pretty overpaid to be an emergency option. I would be okay with him being our primary backup SF to where Dozier gets some minutes at SG and SF, but I still question his attitude.

I don't see any way that you can get Portis to be the 3rd PF let alone 4th at this point in his career. The only way you get him is to promise him 3rd big type minutes which is 20-25 mpg, which means no minutes for Nnaji.

[The Rebel]

Some options to think about, like TBjr myself

https://www.denverstiffs.com/2021/7/24/22591463/nba-trades-targets-utilizing-denver-nuggets-5-3-million-trade-exception-free-agency

I think Chicago is going to have to be desperate to get cap space before they even consider moving Troy Brown, AK was always a big proponent of giving guys a year to develop without forcing minutes. I think he got Brown for next year and long term. Boston waived Mo Wagner after getting him from Washington in that deal, meaning the only reason they were in the deal was to get Brown to the Bulls.

I would be fine with House. After the way Allen showed up in the playoffs I don't think the Grizzlies even consider trading him. The rest of the guards I would pass on I think, you can get better off the scrap heap.

It did get me thinking about Cauley-stein and the Mavs though. If you take Cauley Stein, Finney-Smith, and Brunson off their hands they have a max contract slot they can fill. If we take Brunson and WCS along with a future 1st, that is not a bad deal for either side. If you look at what the Warriors had to pay in the past to dump salary to pay Igoudala and Durant, and other teams have paid than that is a pretty fair deal and inline with historical prices.

WCS and Brunson would give us a quality backup Center and a bench scorer. Leaving the full MLE to get a starting SG and the minimum for a 3rd PF/C type.

[The Rebel]

Rumor out there that the Hawks are floating one of their rookie deals for a 1st, I would still like to take a shot at making Reddish productive and he fits in the TPE.

[skywalker33]

Rumor out there that the Hawks are floating one of their rookie deals for a 1st, I would still like to take a shot at making Reddish productive and he fits in the TPE.

I'd be on board with trading the 26th for Reddish, not sure ATL would let him go that cheap. He's young enough but already has NBA experience, could be a steal but doubt we get the 2019 10th pick for our 26th.

I think Chicago is going to have to be desperate to get cap space before they even consider moving Troy Brown, AK was always a big proponent of giving guys a year to develop without forcing minutes. I think he got Brown for next year and long term.

If AK was looking at him long-term, why wouldn't they have played him the final 15 games, not like they had a lot better options at SF than him, easily raises questions (and red flags) about how he's perceived there. I also am not sure AK has any more influential power over players on-court dealings than TC does here.

[skywalker33]

Rumors are stirring the Nuggets may look to trade for vet or even trade out for a future 1st to regain flexibility and/or because with all the withdrawals, the latter parts of this draft aren't as tempting as it was. They may even trade back to the 2nd round as well

[proscout]

Going off the idea of Reddish… I think it would take more than the 26th pick to get him. But I also know Atlanta wants to free up some cap space for their main guys, and being that Kris Dunn fell out of their rotation, would something like this get it done?

Dunn for the TPE
Reddish for 26th pick, Bol, Cancar

Dunn could fill minutes during the season while Murray is healing. I think Reddish could thrive here as the 6th/7th guy. I’d still sign Barton and Green (and probably Rivers), and then use the MLE for a better backup C.

(Murray)/Morris/Dunn/Facu
Barton/Dozier/Rivers
MPJ/Reddish
Gordon/Green/Nnaji
Jokic/(MLE)

Don’t know if the salary relief is enough to entice Atlanta, but just kinda wishful thinking of a move I’d make if we were to go the route of trying to get Reddish.

[Coeur]

Rumor out there that the Hawks are floating one of their rookie deals for a 1st, I would still like to take a shot at making Reddish productive and he fits in the TPE.

Reddish could be a great gamble for a future 1st. Really wish it would be Bogdan and also like Huerter as a Nug also. Hawks seem like the trade partner for the Nugs to get a shooting guard from.

Reddish could be really good shooting ajd defense and if he reaches close to his ceiling might just fit so perfect as guy 5 on this roster.

[The Rebel]

Rumor out there that the Hawks are floating one of their rookie deals for a 1st, I would still like to take a shot at making Reddish productive and he fits in the TPE.

I'd be on board with trading the 26th for Reddish, not sure ATL would let him go that cheap. He's young enough but already has NBA experience, could be a steal but doubt we get the 2019 10th pick for our 26th.

A late lottery pick 2 years into his deal where he has struggled both of those years is not worth much more than a late 1st, especially when it appears that cap space will be going for a premium this summer.

I think Chicago is going to have to be desperate to get cap space before they even consider moving Troy Brown, AK was always a big proponent of giving guys a year to develop without forcing minutes. I think he got Brown for next year and long term.

If AK was looking at him long-term, why wouldn't they have played him the final 15 games, not like they had a lot better options at SF than him, easily raises questions (and red flags) about how he's perceived there. I also am not sure AK has any more influential power over players on-court dealings than TC does here.

Brown was out injury from mid april through the end of the year.

[The Rebel]

Going off the idea of Reddish… I think it would take more than the 26th pick to get him. But I also know Atlanta wants to free up some cap space for their main guys, and being that Kris Dunn fell out of their rotation, would something like this get it done?

Dunn for the TPE
Reddish for 26th pick, Bol, Cancar

Dunn could fill minutes during the season while Murray is healing. I think Reddish could thrive here as the 6th/7th guy. I’d still sign Barton and Green (and probably Rivers), and then use the MLE for a better backup C.

(Murray)/Morris/Dunn/Facu
Barton/Dozier/Rivers
MPJ/Reddish
Gordon/Green/Nnaji
Jokic/(MLE)

Don’t know if the salary relief is enough to entice Atlanta, but just kinda wishful thinking of a move I’d make if we were to go the route of trying to get Reddish.

That is terrible for the Nuggets. Late lotto picks traded for a pick and cap space usually bring back a late 1st or early 2nd 2 years after they are drafted and have struggled in those 2 year. While Reddish has always gotten a lot of hype he has a long way to go to be a quality player in this league. We can afford to take the risk putting him at backup SF since our depth is so bad, the Hawks know they have no room to develop him.

I would not trade Cancar or Bol straight up for Dunn, and only take Dunn with 2 2nd round picks as incentive. The guy is overrated as a defender, straight terrible on offense, and misses more games than Gary Harris. Why would we want to take him back? He is not a Murray replacement, he is a Harrison replacement who we can bring back on a 2 way deal.

[The Rebel]

Rumor out there that the Hawks are floating one of their rookie deals for a 1st, I would still like to take a shot at making Reddish productive and he fits in the TPE.

Reddish could be a great gamble for a future 1st. Really wish it would be Bogdan and also like Huerter as a Nug also. Hawks seem like the trade partner for the Nugs to get a shooting guard from.

Reddish could be really good shooting ajd defense and if he reaches close to his ceiling might just fit so perfect as guy 5 on this roster.

I can see him coming off the bench this season as a backup at SF and PF and just focusing on defense and hitting open shots, mixing with Nnaji behind MPJ and Gordon. A year from now I can see him starting if we end up having to let Gordon walk.

Those other guys would be nice but are too much even if the Hawks decided to trade either of them.

[The Rebel]

Rumors are stirring the Nuggets may look to trade for vet or even trade out for a future 1st to regain flexibility and/or because with all the withdrawals, the latter parts of this draft aren't as tempting as it was. They may even trade back to the 2nd round as well

IF you cannot get a high upside long term fit at your spot than it makes no sense to keep the pick. It is better to trade it. Although the last 3 times they went into the draft saying that we were not going to use our picks we ended up with Juancho, Beasley, MPJ, and Morris. So here comes at least a rotation quality guy.