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Post#161 » by The Rebel » Tue Jul 27, 2021 2:09 pm

Culver is reportedly on the block for a 2nd, cheap price but I am not sure he will ever be a rotation guy.
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Post#162 » by psimanic1 » Tue Jul 27, 2021 3:21 pm

You do it asap if you can get 2nd round pick now that news are out for him..
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Is he any good? Maybe Jokic would like him here so we can go for Giannis later.. We can take all for of them, why not 8-)
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Post#163 » by skywalker33 » Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:35 pm

The Rebel wrote:Culver is reportedly on the block for a 2nd, cheap price but I am not sure he will ever be a rotation guy.


I remember thinking he was over-drafted but I think there's talent there. Never thought much of MIN's development programs, he has some talent maybe we could bring some of it out here. Perhaps a 3-way where we send Bol out for a 2nd or two or perhaps could buy a 2nd, there seems to be a few teams with excess 2nds this year.

Where did you hear Culver could be had for that cheap of a price ?
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Post#164 » by skywalker33 » Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:37 pm

psimanic1 wrote:
Read on Twitter
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Is he any good? Maybe Jokic would like him here so we can go for Giannis later.. We can take all for of them, why not 8-)


Those plans never work out that way...
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Post#165 » by skywalker33 » Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:46 pm

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The Rebel wrote:Rumor out there that the Hawks are floating one of their rookie deals for a 1st, I would still like to take a shot at making Reddish productive and he fits in the TPE.


I'd be on board with trading the 26th for Reddish, not sure ATL would let him go that cheap. He's young enough but already has NBA experience, could be a steal but doubt we get the 2019 10th pick for our 26th.


A late lottery pick 2 years into his deal where he has struggled both of those years is not worth much more than a late 1st, especially when it appears that cap space will be going for a premium this summer.


I'm not sure of that, his value may have dropped because of injuries but ATL also has over drafted his same position dropping him on their depth chart, less mins for his to showcase. I would definitely take him for the 26th or other reasonable assets.

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The Rebel wrote:I think Chicago is going to have to be desperate to get cap space before they even consider moving Troy Brown, AK was always a big proponent of giving guys a year to develop without forcing minutes. I think he got Brown for next year and long term.


If AK was looking at him long-term, why wouldn't they have played him the final 15 games, not like they had a lot better options at SF than him, easily raises questions (and red flags) about how he's perceived there. I also am not sure AK has any more influential power over players on-court dealings than TC does here.


Brown was out injury from mid april through the end of the year.
Wasn't aware he was injured, don't remember that. That said, I do think he may be available anyway because CHI does look like they're wanting to make some changes to that roster and Brown Jr is more than a 5-8th man IMO
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Post#166 » by The Rebel » Wed Jul 28, 2021 2:41 am

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The Rebel wrote:Culver is reportedly on the block for a 2nd, cheap price but I am not sure he will ever be a rotation guy.


I remember thinking he was over-drafted but I think there's talent there. Never thought much of MIN's development programs, he has some talent maybe we could bring some of it out here. Perhaps a 3-way where we send Bol out for a 2nd or two or perhaps could buy a 2nd, there seems to be a few teams with excess 2nds this year.

Where did you hear Culver could be had for that cheap of a price ?


Here is a link to the hoopshype with a link to the original pod cast, Wolfson is a beat reporter for the Twolves. I don't know how connected he is, but I could see him being used to float this to catch public opinion. https://hoopshype.com/rumor/1539491/


My problem is that I don't want a future guy right now, we need someone we know can provide 1 role well right now. Even if as a spot defender or a shooter, but we can see his role right now.
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Post#167 » by skywalker33 » Wed Jul 28, 2021 2:51 am

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The Rebel wrote:Culver is reportedly on the block for a 2nd, cheap price but I am not sure he will ever be a rotation guy.


I remember thinking he was over-drafted but I think there's talent there. Never thought much of MIN's development programs, he has some talent maybe we could bring some of it out here. Perhaps a 3-way where we send Bol out for a 2nd or two or perhaps could buy a 2nd, there seems to be a few teams with excess 2nds this year.

Where did you hear Culver could be had for that cheap of a price ?


Here is a link to the hoopshype with a link to the original pod cast, Wolfson is a beat reporter for the Twolves. I don't know how connected he is, but I could see him being used to float this to catch public opinion. https://hoopshype.com/rumor/1539491/


My problem is that I don't want a future guy right now, we need someone we know can provide 1 role well right now. Even if as a spot defender or a shooter, but we can see his role right now.


While not a fan of hoopshype, I appreciate your follow through with your source, he seems as legit as any other sauce...LOL

Totally agree we need more pertinent help, especially when I look at our starting guards (sans Barton, who I am not exactly THRILLED with). Changing 26, Bol or whatever into Culver or Reddish just seems like a coup to me, if our team culture rubs off onto them like it did AG that seems like a win
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Post#168 » by The Rebel » Wed Jul 28, 2021 2:54 am

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I'd be on board with trading the 26th for Reddish, not sure ATL would let him go that cheap. He's young enough but already has NBA experience, could be a steal but doubt we get the 2019 10th pick for our 26th.


A late lottery pick 2 years into his deal where he has struggled both of those years is not worth much more than a late 1st, especially when it appears that cap space will be going for a premium this summer.


I'm not sure of that, his value may have dropped because of injuries but ATL also has over drafted his same position dropping him on their depth chart, less mins for his to showcase. I would definitely take him for the 26th or other reasonable assets.


There are always reasons guys don't get minutes, some of it is obvious, some of it is not so obvious, but after 2 years if you are worried about where you drafted a guy than that guy is not living up to his draft expectations. From there it is all about what team is willing to bet those reasons were the problem and not just lack of talent. I think Reddish has a chance to still be a good player, but how good compared to how good of a player you can get in the draft is a big argument. We need a perimeter defender, and that is the one thing he has shown he can do well consistently. It is worth it for us to take that chance, how many other teams need a perimeter defender that badly and what assets are they willing to give up?


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If AK was looking at him long-term, why wouldn't they have played him the final 15 games, not like they had a lot better options at SF than him, easily raises questions (and red flags) about how he's perceived there. I also am not sure AK has any more influential power over players on-court dealings than TC does here.


Brown was out injury from mid april through the end of the year.
Wasn't aware he was injured, don't remember that. That said, I do think he may be available anyway because CHI does look like they're wanting to make some changes to that roster and Brown Jr is more than a 5-8th man IMO


Many compare Brown to a young Will Barton, and in ways I can see it. I think AK is seeing it as well. Look at the roster that AK is building. He traded WCJ, Hutchison, Gafford, Porter JR, and reportedly they are willing to let Markkennen walk. They now have an all star quality offensive center, last year they drafted an athletic defensive PF, had a dynamic scorer at combo guard, traded for an athletic hustle center, reportedly they want a defensive guard this offseason, so he is only missing Barton. HE is rebuilding the Nuggets as best he can, Brown is a fit to what they need.
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Post#169 » by The Rebel » Wed Jul 28, 2021 3:04 am

skywalker33 wrote:
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I remember thinking he was over-drafted but I think there's talent there. Never thought much of MIN's development programs, he has some talent maybe we could bring some of it out here. Perhaps a 3-way where we send Bol out for a 2nd or two or perhaps could buy a 2nd, there seems to be a few teams with excess 2nds this year.

Where did you hear Culver could be had for that cheap of a price ?


Here is a link to the hoopshype with a link to the original pod cast, Wolfson is a beat reporter for the Twolves. I don't know how connected he is, but I could see him being used to float this to catch public opinion. https://hoopshype.com/rumor/1539491/


My problem is that I don't want a future guy right now, we need someone we know can provide 1 role well right now. Even if as a spot defender or a shooter, but we can see his role right now.


While not a fan of hoopshype, I appreciate your follow through with your source, he seems as legit as any other sauce...LOL

Totally agree we need more pertinent help, especially when I look at our starting guards (sans Barton, who I am not exactly THRILLED with). Changing 26, Bol or whatever into Culver or Reddish just seems like a coup to me, if our team culture rubs off onto them like it did AG that seems like a win


Hoopshype is mostly just an aggregator of other's reports again. When they tried to report themselves it was a disaster, but they started off basically just reposting other's reports and now they do it with the twitter feed. It is easier than trying to find stuff on specific teams on twitter these days. I know who Wolfson is, and he is basically a mouth piece for the front office to float crap through to see fan reaction. We have a few of those in Denver these days.


Reddish I would love, I would really love Huerter, but I do not trust that Culver can step in and be a meaningful minute guy right away. He has looked bad in Minny.

You talk about their developmental program, and I agree but I do not see the depth to spend assets on a guy we have to develop just to make him useful right now.
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Post#170 » by Coeur » Fri Jul 30, 2021 2:08 pm

Bones Hyland in I hope could mean a trade of campazzo or of Monte Morris. Maybe they don’t with Murray out but that is almost the only trade able value on this roster
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Post#171 » by skywalker33 » Fri Jul 30, 2021 2:22 pm

Coeur wrote:Bones Hyland in I hope could mean a trade of campazzo or of Monte Morris. Maybe they don’t with Murray out but that is almost the only trade able value on this roster


They may be looking at Hyland as more of a SG than PG, at least that's what I heard. Would make more sense coming off the bench
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Post#172 » by Richard Miller » Fri Jul 30, 2021 2:36 pm

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Coeur wrote:Bones Hyland in I hope could mean a trade of campazzo or of Monte Morris. Maybe they don’t with Murray out but that is almost the only trade able value on this roster


They may be looking at Hyland as more of a SG than PG, at least that's what I heard. Would make more sense coming off the bench


Even if he were a PG they wouldn't entrust playmaking duties to a complete rookie. Trading Morris or Campazzo is out of the question unless a veteran PG is coming back in that trade, which is not very likely, Lowry is pretty much the only one available who could fit.
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Post#173 » by skywalker33 » Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:23 pm

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Coeur wrote:Bones Hyland in I hope could mean a trade of campazzo or of Monte Morris. Maybe they don’t with Murray out but that is almost the only trade able value on this roster


They may be looking at Hyland as more of a SG than PG, at least that's what I heard. Would make more sense coming off the bench


Even if he were a PG they wouldn't entrust playmaking duties to a complete rookie. Trading Morris or Campazzo is out of the question unless a veteran PG is coming back in that trade, which is not very likely, Lowry is pretty much the only one available who could fit.


I hope Lowry isn't on your wish list, he's gonna be way too expensive for this team. As for Bones, easily Malone's MO is to not play rookies except in garbage time but with Murray out, maybe his shooting could come in handy, as we know Facu isn't gonna help there. I do see Bones as our future Vinne the Microwave or Low Williams type.
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Post#174 » by Richard Miller » Fri Jul 30, 2021 6:50 pm

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They may be looking at Hyland as more of a SG than PG, at least that's what I heard. Would make more sense coming off the bench


Even if he were a PG they wouldn't entrust playmaking duties to a complete rookie. Trading Morris or Campazzo is out of the question unless a veteran PG is coming back in that trade, which is not very likely, Lowry is pretty much the only one available who could fit.


I hope Lowry isn't on your wish list, he's gonna be way too expensive for this team.


He isn't, but he's the type I'd expect to handle the ball if they are going to ship Monte/Campazzo, not a 20 yr old rookie - ofc I don't think the two of them are going anywhere.
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Post#175 » by TunaFish » Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:00 pm

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Even if he were a PG they wouldn't entrust playmaking duties to a complete rookie. Trading Morris or Campazzo is out of the question unless a veteran PG is coming back in that trade, which is not very likely, Lowry is pretty much the only one available who could fit.


I hope Lowry isn't on your wish list, he's gonna be way too expensive for this team.


He isn't, but he's the type I'd expect to handle the ball if they are going to ship Monte/Campazzo, not a 20 yr old rookie - ofc I don't think the two of them are going anywhere.


I can't see moving either Morris or Campazzo but I can see Howard being nervous about his spot as he may be in danger of being cut. I think Bones is 6'3" so how many short players can you carry?
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Post#176 » by Richard Miller » Fri Jul 30, 2021 8:12 pm

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I hope Lowry isn't on your wish list, he's gonna be way too expensive for this team.


He isn't, but he's the type I'd expect to handle the ball if they are going to ship Monte/Campazzo, not a 20 yr old rookie - ofc I don't think the two of them are going anywhere.


I can't see moving either Morris or Campazzo but I can see Howard being nervous about his spot as he may be in danger of being cut. I think Bones is 6'3" so how many short players can you carry?


Yeah true that, not sure what they plan for Howard. 6'3" is not bad though, especially with almost 6'10 wingspan (which is pretty much sf-like), he should be fine.
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Post#177 » by skywalker33 » Sat Jul 31, 2021 1:58 am

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I hope Lowry isn't on your wish list, he's gonna be way too expensive for this team.


He isn't, but he's the type I'd expect to handle the ball if they are going to ship Monte/Campazzo, not a 20 yr old rookie - ofc I don't think the two of them are going anywhere.


I can't see moving either Morris or Campazzo but I can see Howard being nervous about his spot as he may be in danger of being cut. I think Bones is 6'3" so how many short players can you carry?


Can’t say I thought of that when I saw Hyland being drafted but it’s a great point. Thought Howard showed something when he got his moments but it is hard to shine in the NBA at 5’11”. That said, even with small-ball being prominent, hard to keep a lot of guys under 6’ on the same roster IMO
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Post#178 » by Richard Miller » Sun Aug 1, 2021 1:08 am

Just remembered this

The Rebel wrote: I think we could get him for a 3 year MLE deal with the last year unguaranteed.


He's going to get way more than that

[Stein] The Jazz are preparing to offer Mike Conley a 3-year, $75 million deal
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Post#179 » by skywalker33 » Sun Aug 1, 2021 2:00 am

Richard Miller wrote:Just remembered this

The Rebel wrote: I think we could get him for a 3 year MLE deal with the last year unguaranteed.


He's going to get way more than that

[Stein] The Jazz are preparing to offer Mike Conley a 3-year, $75 million deal


So you like to be an "I Told You So" kinda guy ??? That kinda pathetic, dude :roll:

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Post#180 » by The Rebel » Sun Aug 1, 2021 3:37 am

Richard Miller wrote:Just remembered this

The Rebel wrote: I think we could get him for a 3 year MLE deal with the last year unguaranteed.


He's going to get way more than that

[Stein] The Jazz are preparing to offer Mike Conley a 3-year, $75 million deal


Yep I got it wrong, something I wrought months ago is not true now, imagine that. Before I started paying attention to who the actual free agents are this year compared to the actual cap space available, I realized Conley and others were going to get way overpaid. Doesn't change the fact that he would make a good Murray replacement, but whoever gives him that deal is going to regret it within the next 2 years.

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