Nurkic: "I don't see my future in Denver"
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His personal play led team to nowhere, I don't think he was that spectacular , he's not a player that makes big difference on the court , he doesn't make team and teammates around him better , his attitude is awful, this past summer in Bosnia, he wanted to fight fans in the stands
He brings more negatives than the positives to his teams, Denver should dealt him while he still has some trade value , if Denver could get first round pick for this year NBA draft , that would be a great deal for Denver .
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GlenRiceARoni wrote:Nurkic stinks im thoroughly amazed how high both nuggets and non nuggets fans are on him. I keep hoping we can move him for something before his cheap contract falls off the books and no one will give up anything for him
Why are you posting on their board and using "we" to refer to their team?
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Nurkic has questionable character, but its really Malone whos guilty for everything thats happening with Nurkic, and let me put it this way: he dont give a f*ck about Denver and Malone anymore, he just wants out! Im not saying that kind of attitued is right, but it is what it is
he hit the ground running in his rookie season, played great defence, and that was why he caught the attention, and he also proved that he can be efficient player in offense, he had ankle injury and he played with knee injury in the second half of the season! heres the link that proves what Im saying
http://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/ranking-the-rookies-jusuf-nurkic-has-been-a-defensive-difference-maker/
after surgery, he missed majority of the second season, and he played great this preseason, and first 5-6 games, but further after that, everything went wrong with Nurkic, he was benched, he got consecutive DNPs, he said he dont see his future at Denver, and Malone was jerking with his minutes
Nurkic has All star potential and Im sure hell prove it on the other team, under coach who trusts him, talks to him
he hit the ground running in his rookie season, played great defence, and that was why he caught the attention, and he also proved that he can be efficient player in offense, he had ankle injury and he played with knee injury in the second half of the season! heres the link that proves what Im saying
http://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/ranking-the-rookies-jusuf-nurkic-has-been-a-defensive-difference-maker/
after surgery, he missed majority of the second season, and he played great this preseason, and first 5-6 games, but further after that, everything went wrong with Nurkic, he was benched, he got consecutive DNPs, he said he dont see his future at Denver, and Malone was jerking with his minutes
Nurkic has All star potential and Im sure hell prove it on the other team, under coach who trusts him, talks to him
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yosemiteben wrote:GlenRiceARoni wrote:Nurkic stinks im thoroughly amazed how high both nuggets and non nuggets fans are on him. I keep hoping we can move him for something before his cheap contract falls off the books and no one will give up anything for him
Why are you posting on their board and using "we" to refer to their team?
I have a friend in the FO. I adopted the nugs as a rooting interest a few seasons ago.
Im also a hinkie fan. When youre an nba junkie you hedge your bets and it allows you to have a team playing every night .
After charlotte lost its team and the bobcats were too uninteresting and too untelevised to watch i became more of a fan of the NBA than just the hornets
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Nurkic is gonna command big dollars as a RFA. like probably 4/ $72.
Who the heck wants that on their payroll with his attitude and horrible production.
His skillset is dying in the modern NBA.
He still has value now and the Nuggets arent a finished product. He needs to be traded as part of a package for a core player or for futute picks. Quickly.
Look what happened to Noel's value as he apprpaches restricted free agency. And he has shown infinite more potential than this idiot.
Plus he has the worst haircut in the league which makes him unbearable to watch. He thinks he looks like the guy from Peaky Blinders or something but without substance you can NOT have style
-----------------------------------------------------------------------Hinkie has created a monster that will awaken in 2018 precisely 200 years after Mary Shelley published Frankenstein in 1818 A.D.
I don't think for a second this is coincidental as Hinkie is well educated and a fan of Classic British Lit
Who the heck wants that on their payroll with his attitude and horrible production.
His skillset is dying in the modern NBA.
He still has value now and the Nuggets arent a finished product. He needs to be traded as part of a package for a core player or for futute picks. Quickly.
Look what happened to Noel's value as he apprpaches restricted free agency. And he has shown infinite more potential than this idiot.
Plus he has the worst haircut in the league which makes him unbearable to watch. He thinks he looks like the guy from Peaky Blinders or something but without substance you can NOT have style
-----------------------------------------------------------------------Hinkie has created a monster that will awaken in 2018 precisely 200 years after Mary Shelley published Frankenstein in 1818 A.D.
I don't think for a second this is coincidental as Hinkie is well educated and a fan of Classic British Lit
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Now I've finally got a reason to get rid of Nurkic - he's got a bad haircut. No doubt that's why he has a bad attitude and plays so poorly and here I thought he showed great potential until his coach started jerking him around. <sign>
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GlenRiceARoni wrote:Nurkic is gonna command big dollars as a RFA. like probably 4/ $72.
Who the heck wants that on their payroll with his attitude and horrible production.
His skillset is dying in the modern NBA.
He still has value now and the Nuggets arent a finished product. He needs to be traded as part of a package for a core player or for futute picks. Quickly.
Look what happened to Noel's value as he apprpaches restricted free agency. And he has shown infinite more potential than this idiot.
Plus he has the worst haircut in the league which makes him unbearable to watch. He thinks he looks like the guy from Peaky Blinders or something but without substance you can NOT have style
-----------------------------------------------------------------------Hinkie has created a monster that will awaken in 2018 precisely 200 years after Mary Shelley published Frankenstein in 1818 A.D.
I don't think for a second this is coincidental as Hinkie is well educated and a fan of Classic British Lit
I hope those are your opinions and not your friends from the front office, cause if it is theirs they should be fired as well. Noel did not show more than Nurkic, they showed very similar affect on the defensive end and Nurkic showed much more on offense. As for his style dieing, your friend must be Malone, plenty of teams still use bigs on pick and rolls, and to hit mid-range shots, but Malone don't like that offense.
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Yea i would never post anything they said, all opinions are my own. And i wouldn't ask them to comment on stuff like that anyway.
Nurkic is too slow for the PNR. He's too immobile.
And that whole jokic/nurkic pairing was never, ever gonna work defensively.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------Hinkie has created a monster that will awaken in 2018 precisely 200 years after Mary Shelley published Frankenstein in 1818 A.D.
I don't think for a second this is coincidental as Hinkie is well educated and a fan of Classic British Lit
Nurkic is too slow for the PNR. He's too immobile.
And that whole jokic/nurkic pairing was never, ever gonna work defensively.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------Hinkie has created a monster that will awaken in 2018 precisely 200 years after Mary Shelley published Frankenstein in 1818 A.D.
I don't think for a second this is coincidental as Hinkie is well educated and a fan of Classic British Lit
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GlenRiceARoni wrote:Yea i would never post anything they said, all opinions are my own. And i wouldn't ask them to comment on stuff like that anyway.
Wow, you must makes "friends" fast..suddenly it's "them" and "they"
GlenRiceARoni wrote:I have a friend in the FO.
Texas Chuck wrote:I'd like to see Utah, and Denver lose
Exactly as I've been saying all along !!
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GlenRiceARoni wrote:Yea i would never post anything they said, all opinions are my own. And i wouldn't ask them to comment on stuff like that anyway.
Nurkic is too slow for the PNR. He's too immobile.
And that whole jokic/nurkic pairing was never, ever gonna work defensively.
We need to share this information with Memphis because they use Zach Randolph in pick-n-rolls and he's a little slower than Nurkic.
Offensively: I don't remember Karl Malone as a speed demon but he certainly was probably the most effective pick-n-roll big in the history of the NBA. Pick-n-roll is not about speed. It's about changing who is guarding you. If a great defensive PG is guarding Nurkic one-on-one as he heads towards the basket after a pick-n-roll, that's called "mouse in the house" or "easy bucket".
If you want to talk about Nurkic being to slow to cover pick-n-roll defensively, then you've agains missed the concept. Bigs are not expected to be able to cover smalls one-on-one on the open court. That's where help is supposed to come from a teammate - a concept most of the Nuggets have never heard of.
Pick-n-roll defense is all about help. Smalls can't stop bigs and bigs can't keep up with smalls - that's the point. You want to stop the pick-n-roll? You have to leave someone open and then have quick rotations. Watch the Warriors, you never know who is covering whom because they switch so often and they are constantly covering for each other - they are constantly moving on defense (unless the other team just stands around watching a teammate go one-on-one.
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skywalker33 wrote:GlenRiceARoni wrote:Yea i would never post anything they said, all opinions are my own. And i wouldn't ask them to comment on stuff like that anyway.
Wow, you must makes "friends" fast..suddenly it's "them" and "they"GlenRiceARoni wrote:I have a friend in the FO.
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Lol. Im only 34 years old. Public education system quit teaching sentence diagramming decades ago.
I did nail that stuff on the gmat but thats in comparison to a lot of non native English speakers
Thanks for pointing out my pronoun reference error
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NuggetsWY wrote:GlenRiceARoni wrote:Yea i would never post anything they said, all opinions are my own. And i wouldn't ask them to comment on stuff like that anyway.
Nurkic is too slow for the PNR. He's too immobile.
And that whole jokic/nurkic pairing was never, ever gonna work defensively.
We need to share this information with Memphis because they use Zach Randolph in pick-n-rolls and he's a little slower than Nurkic.
Offensively: I don't remember Karl Malone as a speed demon but he certainly was probably the most effective pick-n-roll big in the history of the NBA. Pick-n-roll is not about speed. It's about changing who is guarding you. If a great defensive PG is guarding Nurkic one-on-one as he heads towards the basket after a pick-n-roll, that's called "mouse in the house" or "easy bucket".
If you want to talk about Nurkic being to slow to cover pick-n-roll defensively, then you've agains missed the concept. Bigs are not expected to be able to cover smalls one-on-one on the open court. That's where help is supposed to come from a teammate - a concept most of the Nuggets have never heard of.
Pick-n-roll defense is all about help. Smalls can't stop bigs and bigs can't keep up with smalls - that's the point. You want to stop the pick-n-roll? You have to leave someone open and then have quick rotations. Watch the Warriors, you never know who is covering whom because they switch so often and they are constantly covering for each other - they are constantly moving on defense (unless the other team just stands around watching a teammate go one-on-one.
Eh, ill correct this later when i have more time. Suffice to say its a very elementary understanding of PNR coverages
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I usually ignore Twitter, but today I went and looked Nurkic's Twitter account.
Most modern players use Twitter to blast away when they are dissatisfied.
Nurkic's account is full of positive, upbeat posts - motivational types.
I found that interesting. He may think he's not long for the Nuggets, but he still believes he must give his best. I like that.
Most modern players use Twitter to blast away when they are dissatisfied.
Nurkic's account is full of positive, upbeat posts - motivational types.
I found that interesting. He may think he's not long for the Nuggets, but he still believes he must give his best. I like that.
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It sounds like the Nuggets are pretty happy with their offers they're getting for Nurkic. I'm guessing multiple teams are willing to give up a first. There is no reason to play him and risk injury, then have those offers pulled. Plus, his play as of late isn't really increasing his value or our odds of winning. So what is the point in giving him minutes?
I would bet the reason why he isn't gone yet is because TC is probably leveraging deals to try to get maximum return. Which will probably stretch out to the deadline, when teams get more desperate.
I would bet the reason why he isn't gone yet is because TC is probably leveraging deals to try to get maximum return. Which will probably stretch out to the deadline, when teams get more desperate.
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tstrick33 wrote:It sounds like the Nuggets are pretty happy with their offers they're getting for Nurkic. I'm guessing multiple teams are willing to give up a first. There is no reason to play him and risk injury, then have those offers pulled. Plus, his play as of late isn't really increasing his value or our odds of winning. So what is the point in giving him minutes?
I would bet the reason why he isn't gone yet is because TC is probably leveraging deals to try to get maximum return. Which will probably stretch out to the deadline, when teams get more desperate.
If Nuggets had a "first" offer he would have been gone already.
To be honest I'd rather keep him and try and work out his place in the team.
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Just trade him to the Celtics all ready. Kelly Olynyk and Minnesota's second round pick in this year's draft. The pick will be higher than where you drafted Jokic.
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Acountant_Z wrote:tstrick33 wrote:It sounds like the Nuggets are pretty happy with their offers they're getting for Nurkic. I'm guessing multiple teams are willing to give up a first. There is no reason to play him and risk injury, then have those offers pulled. Plus, his play as of late isn't really increasing his value or our odds of winning. So what is the point in giving him minutes?
I would bet the reason why he isn't gone yet is because TC is probably leveraging deals to try to get maximum return. Which will probably stretch out to the deadline, when teams get more desperate.
If Nuggets had a "first" offer he would have been gone already.
To be honest I'd rather keep him and try and work out his place in the team.
You don't know that, in fact I would say you are very wrong. If the reports are right, and Smitty is not the 1st to report it, then there are several teams that want Nurkic which leads one to believe that a 1st round pick is not the issue.
All reports coming out from the Nuggets reporters is that the Nuggets are not looking to get younger, in fact just the opposite, they think the team is too young and are reportedly shopping Mudiay, Nurkic, and their picks to see what they can get. So my guess is they are not interested in getting a 1st round pick for anybody.
One thing to remember about Josh Kroenke, he took over during the Melodrama, he learned fast that if you have multiple bidders than often holding off will get your more in compensation. Look at the Melo deal. Look at what they got for Mozgov where it was widely reported that the Cavs wanted Mozgov but the Nuggets wanted too much, then they got 2 1st round picks for him. For Foye they took back a little more money, got the better player with an expiring deal, and 2 2nd round picks for a guy that was basically worthless. Hell they got 2 2nd round picks for Joffrey who is nowhere near the player that Nurkic is. I would say that the Nuggets will get a fair return on Nurkic if they trade him, but I am still holding out hope that he decides he wants to stay.
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theman wrote:Just trade him to the Celtics all ready. Kelly Olynyk and Minnesota's second round pick in this year's draft. The pick will be higher than where you drafted Jokic.
LOL, how about the Brooklyn pick?





