OT: Daily Thoughts

[Powder Blue]

I keep seeing fans posting that there are 7 franchise guys in this draft, yet all the experts keep saying there is not really a single franchise guy in this draft, more likely an all star or 2 and some really good starting quality guys. I am not sure I would trade Faried for the chance to move up 3 or 4 slots.

http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-mock-draft/2014/

I agree, I was not impressed by many of the potential top picks in the tournament either. There are always solid player to be found in the 8-12 range. I don't think you trade Faried and our pick (say McDermott) for Randle, Gordon or Vonleh. The talent drop off between 7 and 12 is not substantial enough to warrant including Faried.

[tstrick33]

I believe there is one lock all star, which is Parker (assuming he comes out). But it's hard to ignore how a lot of these players in the top 8 have identical skill sets/build to current All Stars.

Parker-Melo
Wiggins- 6'8 SG w/ tremendous athleticism/great range/all around game
Embiid- Hakeem
Randle- Zach Randolph
Exum- Russell Westbrook
Smart- Jason Kidd
Vonleh- 6'10 PF w/7'4 wingspan who has a great touch inside and from three.
Aaron Gordon- Blake Griffin

These are who the experts are comparing their potential to. Usually you have one or two draft picks where you say, I could see him being like such and such all star. This draft there is eight players who scouts are extremely high on.

After these players you get into some guys who look like good role players, but nothing you can get too excited over.

[Powder Blue]

The top 10 picks every year draw comparisons to current all-stars. Every draft there is also a guy taken in the teens that out shines most of the top 10 picks.

The Knicks have the 8th seed and we have our own #12 pick as of today...

[RRFB]

It's clear this draft class was over-hyped from the beginning. None of these kids are going to come in and immediately have the type of impact Lebron or Melo did.

I hope we're targeting Randle. He's big, has a post game, good footwork, and he can get out and run. A lot of people seem to think he's going to bust, so maybe there's a chance he falls to our pick. Or at least somewhere we can realistically trade up to.

I just want Faried gone before we have to pay him because we obviously can't let him walk. Hopefully he keeps putting up the big numbers and has a high value heading into the offseason.

[tstrick33]

It's way too early to say this draft is over hyped lol. At least wait a year before coming to conclusions on a draft class.

Randolph will go in the top 5, especially after his performance in the tournament. I just hope we can get the assets to trade up.

The Nuggets need to do something bold this offseason. Assuming we're healthy, our team will compete for the 8th seed. If we get it, we'll be probably be a quick out. Being that we're in salary cap hell for the next two years, we can't sign anyone who will make us a better team.

The only way I see us getting better is to gamble on this draft and try to trade up w/ Faried. I would even add in another future draft pick, we don't need anymore late lottery draft prospects.

[Powder Blue]

I think it's going to difficult to do something bold when half your talent is coming off season-ending injuries. Based on how all the top picks performed in the toruney I think it's fair to say that they have been over-hyped the past few months. Sure several of them could end up being solid players but on the big stage not many performed.

I do agree with our current contracts paying Faried 8-12 is not a good idea for us. Given his recent numbers and a slowly improving outside shot maybe he's worth that but likely not to us.

[The Rebel]

It's way too early to say this draft is over hyped lol. At least wait a year before coming to conclusions on a draft class.

Randolph will go in the top 5, especially after his performance in the tournament. I just hope we can get the assets to trade up.

The Nuggets need to do something bold this offseason. Assuming we're healthy, our team will compete for the 8th seed. If we get it, we'll be probably be a quick out. Being that we're in salary cap hell for the next two years, we can't sign anyone who will make us a better team.

The only way I see us getting better is to gamble on this draft and try to trade up w/ Faried. I would even add in another future draft pick, we don't need anymore late lottery draft prospects.

So it is too early to say it is over hyped but you would advocate trading proven good NBA players based on how draft experts are comparing their upside to other players? If you can decide they are good in your eyes than someone else has the same body of work to say they are not as good as they are hyped up.

By the way if your whole argument is based on who the experts are comparing them to, go read some of the scouting reports on players drafted in previous years, it happens every year.

[The Rebel]

I think it's going to difficult to do something bold when half your talent is coming off season-ending injuries. Based on how all the top picks performed in the toruney I think it's fair to say that they have been over-hyped the past few months. Sure several of them could end up being solid players but on the big stage not many performed.

I do agree with our current contracts paying Faried 8-12 is not a good idea for us. Given his recent numbers and a slowly improving outside shot maybe he's worth that but likely not to us.

One way or another the Nuggets need to clear some of the glut of PFs out, unfortunately with Hickson's injury the only one I seeing having any kind of real value is Faried, but I would prefer they keep Faried and move Chandler and Hickson if they can find a way.

[josh_nuggets]

What do u think about vesely and brooks? Resign any of them?

[eathb_au]

I would re-sign Brooks, good fit with Lawson when we play 2 PGs.

[RRFB]

Brooks has been a great pickup but we don't really need him if Nate is back and healthy. I bet Vesely goes back to Europe. We're going to need at least one of those roster spots for our draft pick(s).

[tstrick33]

I don't think we can afford Brooks. Faried is going to want a big contract that we probably won't be able to afford, might as well get something for him now.

[Powder Blue]

Brooks we can't afford (playing his way to a full MLE deal) and we'll need Vesely's roster spot for a rookie.

I was his biggest fan on here but I'm ok letting Chandler go, he is what he is at this point. I think Q, Four or the rookie could fill his role. I'd prefer shipping JJ but that's highly unlikely.

[Powder Blue]

Well the showcase of college talent is over. I feel like Napier and Young raised their draft stock last night. Most of the top picks are heavily rated on potential and drafting based on potential is always a crap-shoot. It's also something the Nuggets don't have a good track record on.

[DaFan334]

There are too many good point guards in the league in my opinion for Brooks to get a full MLE. His history of disappearing will probably also make teams shy away from paying him that much. That said, if we can bring him back for the smaller exception and try to move Nate, it may be a very good idea.

[josh_nuggets]

There are too many good point guards in the league in my opinion for Brooks to get a full MLE. His history of disappearing will probably also make teams shy away from paying him that much. That said, if we can bring him back for the smaller exception and try to move Nate, it may be a very good idea.

Nate leads bulls to 2nd round of playoffs.... Gets 2mil a yr

Brooks is playing on a team where he is currently the only PG of course his numbers will,be high, Don't think brooks will get a full MLE

[darivo]

Brooks we can't afford (playing his way to a full MLE deal) and we'll need Vesely's roster spot for a rookie.

I was his biggest fan on here but I'm ok letting Chandler go, he is what he is at this point. I think Q, Four or the rookie could fill his role. I'd prefer shipping JJ but that's highly unlikely.

Chandler is our best defensive player.
If you want to be a real contender, you need guys like chandler in the roster, not Quincy.

If you want develop you could trade your best players of course, but im in the way to figth for the ring next year.

[josh_nuggets]

Brooks we can't afford (playing his way to a full MLE deal) and we'll need Vesely's roster spot for a rookie.

I was his biggest fan on here but I'm ok letting Chandler go, he is what he is at this point. I think Q, Four or the rookie could fill his role. I'd prefer shipping JJ but that's highly unlikely.

Chandler is our best defensive player.
If you want to be a real contender, you need guys like chandler in the roster, not Quincy.

If you want develop you could trade your best players of course, but im in the way to figth for the ring next year.

Would u perfer to trade chandler and resign faried?

Or lose faried and keep chandler

I believe that only one of these players will finish the season on the roster

[darivo]

Brooks we can't afford (playing his way to a full MLE deal) and we'll need Vesely's roster spot for a rookie.

I was his biggest fan on here but I'm ok letting Chandler go, he is what he is at this point. I think Q, Four or the rookie could fill his role. I'd prefer shipping JJ but that's highly unlikely.

Chandler is our best defensive player.
If you want to be a real contender, you need guys like chandler in the roster, not Quincy.

If you want develop you could trade your best players of course, but im in the way to figth for the ring next year.

Would u perfer to trade chandler and resign faried?

Or lose faried and keep chandler

I believe that only one of these players will finish the season on the roster

I would trade faried every day.

Wilson can play at pf too, and we have Darth, JJ, and maybe vesely [gallo could do too]

And Faried will go to a big contract.....

[Powder Blue]

Nuggets look dumpy against Jazz

Suns on the outside looking in at 5 teams with worse records who are in the playoffs, fix that Adam Silver