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Post#41 » by Coeur » Sat Oct 26, 2019 6:43 pm

Bogdanovic for Beasley and Hernangomez



Gary harris for Gallinari
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Post#42 » by NuggetsWY » Sat Oct 26, 2019 8:09 pm

Coeur wrote:Bogdanovic for Beasley and Hernangomez

Yes
Coeur wrote:Gary harris for Gallinari

Absolutely not.
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Post#43 » by Coeur » Sun Nov 3, 2019 5:12 pm

Lavine (Dunn as a filler)

For

Barton, Malik Beasley, Monte Morris, 2020 unprotected


Or does hernangomez have to be in there? I’d like to keep harris over Barton with this move but if you replace Barton what’s the fair value then?



Lavine- this guy at 19 per could be a perfect 3rd scorer. Brings the elite athleticism to get out ahead and finish and then still does guard things


Any thoughts on Lavine on the Nugs. And then which is the deal it takes to get it done ? The fight from others is they always want mpj. I’m not adding mpj to any trades. Figure there’s got to be equal value replacement. Beasley and hernangomez together is a way better package


What is mpj worth compared to other pieces from Nugs in a trade? Juancho and Morris? 22 unprotected? Beasley and ? I also don’t like Vanderbilt in trade idea
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Post#44 » by skywalker33 » Sun Nov 3, 2019 7:59 pm

Coeur wrote:Lavine (Dunn as a filler)

For

Barton, Malik Beasley, Monte Morris, 2020 unprotected


Or does hernangomez have to be in there? I’d like to keep harris over Barton with this move but if you replace Barton what’s the fair value then?



Lavine- this guy at 19 per could be a perfect 3rd scorer. Brings the elite athleticism to get out ahead and finish and then still does guard things


Any thoughts on Lavine on the Nugs. And then which is the deal it takes to get it done ? The fight from others is they always want mpj. I’m not adding mpj to any trades. Figure there’s got to be equal value replacement. Beasley and hernangomez together is a way better package


What is mpj worth compared to other pieces from Nugs in a trade? Juancho and Morris? 22 unprotected? Beasley and ? I also don’t like Vanderbilt in trade idea


Salaries aren't even close, especially adding in Dunn who is terrible IMO. I can see the scoring aspect obtained but can't say he much more athletic than either Beasley or Barton. Most trade involving Barton are for reducing his salary from our cap, this one just adds to our cap in the long run, although it seems to be an upgrade in talent/assets. And adding an unprotected 1st is stupid IMO, gonna say no but one of your less egregious proposals.
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Post#45 » by NuggetsWY » Mon Nov 4, 2019 11:25 am

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Coeur wrote:Lavine (Dunn as a filler)
For Barton, Malik Beasley, Monte Morris, 2020 unprotected

Or does hernangomez have to be in there? I’d like to keep harris over Barton with this move but if you replace Barton what’s the fair value then?

Lavine- this guy at 19 per could be a perfect 3rd scorer. Brings the elite athleticism to get out ahead and finish and then still does guard things

Any thoughts on Lavine on the Nugs. And then which is the deal it takes to get it done ? The fight from others is they always want mpj. I’m not adding mpj to any trades. Figure there’s got to be equal value replacement. Beasley and hernangomez together is a way better package

What is mpj worth compared to other pieces from Nugs in a trade? Juancho and Morris? 22 unprotected? Beasley and ? I also don’t like Vanderbilt in trade idea

Salaries aren't even close, especially adding in Dunn who is terrible IMO. I can see the scoring aspect obtained but can't say he much more athletic than either Beasley or Barton. Most trade involving Barton are for reducing his salary from our cap, this one just adds to our cap in the long run, although it seems to be an upgrade in talent/assets. And adding an unprotected 1st is stupid IMO, gonna say no but one of your less egregious proposals.

I like LaVine - don't like Dunn's fit (he's not a stretch shooter - at all).
I don't know what Chicago would want for LaVine, but I suspect it will be quite a bit. I don't think Barton or Harris would be adequate. Even taking back Dunn it might be tough to work a deal.

Porter is almost certainly what they want, especially with what little PT he's had so far. I totally agree that we don't want to trade him though.

About the best offer I can think of is LaVine & Dunn -for- Harris, Hernangomez, Beasley and I still think they'll want a 1st.

I'm find trading Beasley almost as bad as trading Porter.
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Post#46 » by Coeur » Mon Nov 4, 2019 2:56 pm

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skywalker33 wrote:
Coeur wrote:Lavine (Dunn as a filler)
For Barton, Malik Beasley, Monte Morris, 2020 unprotected

Or does hernangomez have to be in there? I’d like to keep harris over Barton with this move but if you replace Barton what’s the fair value then?

Lavine- this guy at 19 per could be a perfect 3rd scorer. Brings the elite athleticism to get out ahead and finish and then still does guard things

Any thoughts on Lavine on the Nugs. And then which is the deal it takes to get it done ? The fight from others is they always want mpj. I’m not adding mpj to any trades. Figure there’s got to be equal value replacement. Beasley and hernangomez together is a way better package

What is mpj worth compared to other pieces from Nugs in a trade? Juancho and Morris? 22 unprotected? Beasley and ? I also don’t like Vanderbilt in trade idea

Salaries aren't even close, especially adding in Dunn who is terrible IMO. I can see the scoring aspect obtained but can't say he much more athletic than either Beasley or Barton. Most trade involving Barton are for reducing his salary from our cap, this one just adds to our cap in the long run, although it seems to be an upgrade in talent/assets. And adding an unprotected 1st is stupid IMO, gonna say no but one of your less egregious proposals.

I like LaVine - don't like Dunn's fit (he's not a stretch shooter - at all).
I don't know what Chicago would want for LaVine, but I suspect it will be quite a bit. I don't think Barton or Harris would be adequate. Even taking back Dunn it might be tough to work a deal.

Porter is almost certainly what they want, especially with what little PT he's had so far. I totally agree that we don't want to trade him though.

About the best offer I can think of is LaVine & Dunn -for- Harris, Hernangomez, Beasley and I still think they'll want a 1st.

I'm find trading Beasley almost as bad as trading Porter.

Dunn is of no importance to me on these trades for Lavine. Just figure they’d want him in there.


Lavine for Barton, Beasley, hernangomez, 22 1st. I included monte Morris for Dunn as more value gained for the Bulls.

I’m fine w Beasley because I think it’s lost value anyway without a trade asap. Not at all like mpj who is still going out at low value even though we see the glimpses of never want to trade him anyway type value.
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Post#47 » by Coeur » Mon Nov 4, 2019 8:01 pm

skywalker33 wrote:
Coeur wrote:Lavine (Dunn as a filler)

For

Barton, Malik Beasley, Monte Morris, 2020 unprotected


Or does hernangomez have to be in there? I’d like to keep harris over Barton with this move but if you replace Barton what’s the fair value then?



Lavine- this guy at 19 per could be a perfect 3rd scorer. Brings the elite athleticism to get out ahead and finish and then still does guard things


Any thoughts on Lavine on the Nugs. And then which is the deal it takes to get it done ? The fight from others is they always want mpj. I’m not adding mpj to any trades. Figure there’s got to be equal value replacement. Beasley and hernangomez together is a way better package


What is mpj worth compared to other pieces from Nugs in a trade? Juancho and Morris? 22 unprotected? Beasley and ? I also don’t like Vanderbilt in trade idea


Salaries aren't even close, especially adding in Dunn who is terrible IMO. I can see the scoring aspect obtained but can't say he much more athletic than either Beasley or Barton. Most trade involving Barton are for reducing his salary from our cap, this one just adds to our cap in the long run, although it seems to be an upgrade in talent/assets. And adding an unprotected 1st is stupid IMO, gonna say no but one of your less egregious proposals.

You almost had me. Nah. Barton, Beasley, juancho for Lavine is really stinkin close isn’t it. There’s a bunch of ways to get this deal done.


Yeah Lavine is a level better of an athlete than those guys. Look again. Watch the other teams and not just Nugs?


I look at future cap implications a ton on this deal. This is why I thought you guys might be really fall in love w this one. This is choosing having next year Lavine and harris over harris, Barton; and whatever happens w Beasley and hernangomez- I thought you love the Barton for Lavine money swap even more and then it’s worrh losing Beasley and hernangomez to keeping Lavine than it is to keep Barton.



Still need to swap out millsap money but this is the best Barton trade I’ve got. Do you prefer to send out Gary harris instead of Barton ?
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Post#48 » by Coeur » Mon Nov 4, 2019 8:03 pm

Murray/Lavine/GaryHarry 3 guard rotation? Sick. Now let’s clear millsap and see what Vanderbilt has
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Post#49 » by Coeur » Mon Nov 4, 2019 8:31 pm

Get a Lavine for Beasley, Barton and hernangomez trade off.


Then the 2 future picks plus millsap and Morris or something for Aaron Gordon and if they want to dump Fournier big contract.

Murray/harris
Lavine/Fournier
TC/mpj
Gordon/Grant/
Jokic/Plumlee

Might even do Grant and plumlee to spurs with the thunder to get the 20 pick as one of the ones for Gordon and get the other pick to come from Minnesota to do a Fournier Wiggins swap. So now no future picks going out: this is the title team

Murray/Gary Harris
Lavine/TC
Wiggins/Mpj
Gordon/Vanderbilt
Jokic/Aldridge

2020...... champions...... dynasty
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Post#50 » by Manolito » Mon Nov 18, 2019 2:33 pm

I have already read in two separate sources the same rumour:

Iguodala x Barton + Juancho

Thoughts? I don't like Iguodala obviously but It would mean dumping Barton almost for free, which would allow us to extend Beasley.

Best news ist that Barton has some trade value again

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Post#51 » by TunaFish » Mon Nov 18, 2019 2:50 pm

Manolito wrote:I have already read in two separate sources the same rumour:

Iguodala x Barton + Juancho

Thoughts? I don't like Iguodala obviously but It would mean dumping Barton almost for free, which would allow us to extend Beasley.

Best news ist that Barton has some trade value again

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Barton has shown flashes and may be back to his 2018 level of play. I doubt Denver is looking to trade him as long as he maintains that level of play but we will see.
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Post#52 » by The Rebel » Mon Nov 18, 2019 3:53 pm

Manolito wrote:I have already read in two separate sources the same rumour:

Iguodala x Barton + Juancho

Thoughts? I don't like Iguodala obviously but It would mean dumping Barton almost for free, which would allow us to extend Beasley.

Best news ist that Barton has some trade value again

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I think that rumor is a few weeks old and I do not think the Nuggets would consider it at this point. Barton has been playing very well and is very similar to how he was before he signed his deal, and Juancho coming off the bench has seemed to make a huge difference the last couple of games.
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Post#53 » by Coeur » Tue Nov 19, 2019 6:41 pm

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Manolito wrote:I have already read in two separate sources the same rumour:

Iguodala x Barton + Juancho

Thoughts? I don't like Iguodala obviously but It would mean dumping Barton almost for free, which would allow us to extend Beasley.

Best news ist that Barton has some trade value again

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I think that rumor is a few weeks old and I do not think the Nuggets would consider it at this point. Barton has been playing very well and is very similar to how he was before he signed his deal, and Juancho coming off the bench has seemed to make a huge difference the last couple of games.

Yeah I sure hope not. Igoudala showers in the other teams locker room. Don’t want him on the Nugs at all. Could love the value of this trade if Igoudala was flipped to another team
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Post#54 » by NuggetsWY » Tue Nov 19, 2019 9:14 pm

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Manolito wrote:I have already read in two separate sources the same rumour:

Iguodala x Barton + Juancho

Thoughts? I don't like Iguodala obviously but It would mean dumping Barton almost for free, which would allow us to extend Beasley.

Best news ist that Barton has some trade value again

I think that rumor is a few weeks old and I do not think the Nuggets would consider it at this point. Barton has been playing very well and is very similar to how he was before he signed his deal, and Juancho coming off the bench has seemed to make a huge difference the last couple of games.

Yeah I sure hope not. Igoudala showers in the other teams locker room. Don’t want him on the Nugs at all. Could love the value of this trade if Igoudala was flipped to another team

I'm not hung up on Igoudala's past - at least not too much. I'd really rather not acquire him just based on his personality and obvious dislike of Denver. However, I really don't want Iguodala because the eye-test says his game is not what it once was. His minutes are down to about half of a game and he seems a step slower (not a lot, but enough).

Even trading Barton + Hernangomez for him; Igoudala's only position is SF (he won't get SG minutes with Harris & Beasley & Murray all playing there). So he'd be competing with Craig & Porter plus maybe Grant & Vanderbilt and even some time for Beasley. He just doesn't fit our roster.
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Post#55 » by skywalker33 » Mon Nov 25, 2019 12:55 am

Starting to see a lot of Beasley ...err trades over on the TnT thread, probably because of his lack of PT. If I understand the reason behind this, it started with an illness, is he still ill
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Post#56 » by The Rebel » Mon Nov 25, 2019 6:56 pm

skywalker33 wrote:Starting to see a lot of Beasley ...err trades over on the TnT thread, probably because of his lack of PT. If I understand the reason behind this, it started with an illness, is he still ill


I do not know if he is still sick or has been for the last week or so, but from what I have gathered over the last couple of weeks there seems to be a lot of Nuggets fans on reddit who are blaming Beasley for the bench issues we have had so far this season. I personally think that is very unfair, he was not the issue, the lack of spacing and ball movement had more to do with Craig, Grant, and of course Plumlee not hitting outside shots and therefor killing our bench offense.

I am sure I am probably in the minority, but I would rather keep Beasley and trade MPJ. There is no question in my mind that Porter Jr is going to be a very good scorer in the NBA, but his errors on the defensive end make me think he is a couple of years away from being a truly positive player on the court and I am not sure that he is ever going to be an effective defender at SF. I also think he has some rising value around the league now that he is proving that he is healthy and can play.

Beasley makes a very good 6th man and last night showed he could be an effective defender when he wants to.
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Post#57 » by DaFan334 » Mon Nov 25, 2019 7:38 pm

The Barton for Iguadala deals looks pretty bad now with how well Barton has been playing, especially his defense. He is shockingly one of the best defenders in the league this year.
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Post#58 » by NuggetsWY » Mon Nov 25, 2019 9:28 pm

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skywalker33 wrote:Starting to see a lot of Beasley ...err trades over on the TnT thread, probably because of his lack of PT. If I understand the reason behind this, it started with an illness, is he still ill

I do not know if he is still sick or has been for the last week or so, but from what I have gathered over the last couple of weeks there seems to be a lot of Nuggets fans on reddit who are blaming Beasley for the bench issues we have had so far this season. I personally think that is very unfair, he was not the issue, the lack of spacing and ball movement had more to do with Craig, Grant, and of course Plumlee not hitting outside shots and therefor killing our bench offense.

I am sure I am probably in the minority, but I would rather keep Beasley and trade MPJ. There is no question in my mind that Porter Jr is going to be a very good scorer in the NBA, but his errors on the defensive end make me think he is a couple of years away from being a truly positive player on the court and I am not sure that he is ever going to be an effective defender at SF. I also think he has some rising value around the league now that he is proving that he is healthy and can play.

Beasley makes a very good 6th man and last night showed he could be an effective defender when he wants to.

I agree that our bench issue isn't Beasley and as Grant starts hitting shots, it'll get better. Craig can be streaky and of course Plumlee won't be hitting outside shots.

I'm not sure I want to trade Porter (or Beasley). We've looked at Beasley for a while. I'd like to see Porter for a couple of years before we try a trade.

Although I'm down to just two that are untradeable - although some others I'd want a lot back. The only trade I'm interested in is for someone that is a Top-3 on the Nuggets - competing for Top-2 or maybe Top-1.
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Post#59 » by The Rebel » Tue Nov 26, 2019 2:36 am

NuggetsWY wrote:
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skywalker33 wrote:Starting to see a lot of Beasley ...err trades over on the TnT thread, probably because of his lack of PT. If I understand the reason behind this, it started with an illness, is he still ill

I do not know if he is still sick or has been for the last week or so, but from what I have gathered over the last couple of weeks there seems to be a lot of Nuggets fans on reddit who are blaming Beasley for the bench issues we have had so far this season. I personally think that is very unfair, he was not the issue, the lack of spacing and ball movement had more to do with Craig, Grant, and of course Plumlee not hitting outside shots and therefor killing our bench offense.

I am sure I am probably in the minority, but I would rather keep Beasley and trade MPJ. There is no question in my mind that Porter Jr is going to be a very good scorer in the NBA, but his errors on the defensive end make me think he is a couple of years away from being a truly positive player on the court and I am not sure that he is ever going to be an effective defender at SF. I also think he has some rising value around the league now that he is proving that he is healthy and can play.

Beasley makes a very good 6th man and last night showed he could be an effective defender when he wants to.

I agree that our bench issue isn't Beasley and as Grant starts hitting shots, it'll get better. Craig can be streaky and of course Plumlee won't be hitting outside shots.

I'm not sure I want to trade Porter (or Beasley). We've looked at Beasley for a while. I'd like to see Porter for a couple of years before we try a trade.

Although I'm down to just two that are untradeable - although some others I'd want a lot back. The only trade I'm interested in is for someone that is a Top-3 on the Nuggets - competing for Top-2 or maybe Top-1.

Don’t get me wrong, I see no reason to trade for any role players, we have to trade for an all star if we start trading guys who should be in the rotation or have high potential.

That being said I am not a huge fan of Porter on this team, and I do not like that he has already bitched on the bench and talked about his minutes in the media. That is not a good sign when your team has so much good depth that him playing is costing you leads. I understand top young talents expect to get some kind of minutes but if the true goal this year is a championship than there is only so much you can play him.

If we make a trade than it should be for this year, and nobody is going to want to wait on developing Porter at that point.

If we do not make an upgrade than it only makes sense to trade guys not in your long term plans for draft picks. I am not sure who those guys are just yet though.
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Post#60 » by TunaFish » Tue Nov 26, 2019 5:41 am

The Rebel wrote:
NuggetsWY wrote:
The Rebel wrote:I do not know if he is still sick or has been for the last week or so, but from what I have gathered over the last couple of weeks there seems to be a lot of Nuggets fans on reddit who are blaming Beasley for the bench issues we have had so far this season. I personally think that is very unfair, he was not the issue, the lack of spacing and ball movement had more to do with Craig, Grant, and of course Plumlee not hitting outside shots and therefor killing our bench offense.

I am sure I am probably in the minority, but I would rather keep Beasley and trade MPJ. There is no question in my mind that Porter Jr is going to be a very good scorer in the NBA, but his errors on the defensive end make me think he is a couple of years away from being a truly positive player on the court and I am not sure that he is ever going to be an effective defender at SF. I also think he has some rising value around the league now that he is proving that he is healthy and can play.

Beasley makes a very good 6th man and last night showed he could be an effective defender when he wants to.

I agree that our bench issue isn't Beasley and as Grant starts hitting shots, it'll get better. Craig can be streaky and of course Plumlee won't be hitting outside shots.

I'm not sure I want to trade Porter (or Beasley). We've looked at Beasley for a while. I'd like to see Porter for a couple of years before we try a trade.

Although I'm down to just two that are untradeable - although some others I'd want a lot back. The only trade I'm interested in is for someone that is a Top-3 on the Nuggets - competing for Top-2 or maybe Top-1.

Don’t get me wrong, I see no reason to trade for any role players, we have to trade for an all star if we start trading guys who should be in the rotation or have high potential.

That being said I am not a huge fan of Porter on this team, and I do not like that he has already bitched on the bench and talked about his minutes in the media. That is not a good sign when your team has so much good depth that him playing is costing you leads. I understand top young talents expect to get some kind of minutes but if the true goal this year is a championship than there is only so much you can play him.

If we make a trade than it should be for this year, and nobody is going to want to wait on developing Porter at that point.

If we do not make an upgrade than it only makes sense to trade guys not in your long term plans for draft picks. I am not sure who those guys are just yet though.


They won't trade Porter unless someone offers a deal they can't refuse and that would have to be for an allstar caliber player. The great players move themselves around these days. Even if they found such a player, they would need another large contract with Porter's to match salaries in a trade. They also don't have a 1st round pick and they need players on cheap rookie deals besides Bol. Porter is raw but the potential is unmistakable. The interest in Beasley is tied to a contract crunch that is on its way at the end of the season.

Who do you want to keep among the restricted free agents: Morris, Beasley or Hernangomez?

Who do you want back among the unrestricted free agents: Millsap, Plumlee, Craig or Grant?

And who can they afford with Murray's extension kicking in? I don't think they can keep them all so Beasley looks like a strong trade target when you crunch the numbers. Shooters like Beasley will be in high demand. Sign and trade looks like a possibility depending on some other team meeting Beasley likely exorbitant contract demands. It is Beasley's demands that could lead to his departure.
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