The New Improved 2021-2022 Trade/Offseason Thread

[skywalker33]

This team simply needs patience. We have not seen Jokic, Murray, MPJ and Gordon's ceiling playing together. You don't burn valuable assets without knowing your roster's ceiling.

Only younger starter defensive minded SG is needed, although it would not be a drama to keep Barton (specially for locker room chemistry). We have no time to develop any other young prospect while championship window is fully open, therefore 2022 FRP should be used to improve SG position as we have very limited picks flexibility until 2024 draft day.

They DID play together last year before Jamal was hurt, they were destroying teams like the Clips, 76ers and Hawks, they weren't even gelling yet either. As for Morris, to treat him as an irreplaceable asset is foolish, he was a late SRP that we can potentially trade for a mid-FRP while replacing him with a more dynamic, cheaper Bones Hyland, that's what smart FO's do. When Jamal returns, that late SRP will push our FRP farther down the bench and his development will get diminished because his PT will diminish, same with next year or perhaps Bones could/should push Morris farther down the bench, reducing HIS value.

And for the record, we CAN'T trade our 2022 FRP because we've traded our 2023 FRP, even heard of the Stepien Rule ????

You have written that thousand times already. Do you know we can trade 2022 FRP the draft day???? Inform yourself before trying to correct someone else

YOU stated trading a FRP, not the player selected, just going by YOUR words which is so easy to correct, I'm just trying to inform the ignorant. Wanna be a dick, no problem Mano

[skywalker33]

Man, Will has lost his Thrill, dude has got to go. Last night showed he doesn't prepare for the season, just the games he wants to. His inconsistency is frustrating and unprofessional, I might live with it from a younger player but he's a vet. And I still can't stand that over-sized ego of his.

[Manolito]

They DID play together last year before Jamal was hurt, they were destroying teams like the Clips, 76ers and Hawks, they weren't even gelling yet either. As for Morris, to treat him as an irreplaceable asset is foolish, he was a late SRP that we can potentially trade for a mid-FRP while replacing him with a more dynamic, cheaper Bones Hyland, that's what smart FO's do. When Jamal returns, that late SRP will push our FRP farther down the bench and his development will get diminished because his PT will diminish, same with next year or perhaps Bones could/should push Morris farther down the bench, reducing HIS value.

And for the record, we CAN'T trade our 2022 FRP because we've traded our 2023 FRP, even heard of the Stepien Rule ????

You have written that thousand times already. Do you know we can trade 2022 FRP the draft day???? Inform yourself before trying to correct someone else

YOU stated trading a FRP, not the player selected, just going by YOUR words which is so easy to correct, I'm just trying to inform the ignorant. Wanna be a dick, no problem Mano

I clearly stated trading 2022 FRP. When is it possible to trade it apart from draft day? It is okay you don't know the rules, just don't try to hide how ignorant you are.

If you don't understand my words, we can also discuss in spanish, german, french or italian, as you prefer.

[Coeur]

Man, Will has lost his Thrill, dude has got to go. Last night showed he doesn't prepare for the season, just the games he wants to. His inconsistency is frustrating and unprofessional, I might live with it from a younger player but he's a vet. And I still can't stand that over-sized ego of his.

It’s going to prob be too late. Can’t imagine, though I try, a team taking him on without exchanging other bad money for him.


If Monte Morris and barton are combined has got to be best shot at trading him. With a green or 2.


Bogdanovic or Brogdon out of reach prob. I’d even consider being happy with BuddyHeild for Monte Barton

[Richard Miller]

One game overreactions are always the best. I'm not sure is there anything Buddy does better than Barton while being paid like 4x more

[psimanic1]

As Nuggets fans, should we be more for finishing 6th,or 5th(4th is not out of reach but it probably doesnt change our 1st round matchup if standings stay as they are noe) ? We are 1 game behind Dallas, which would give us Utah in 1st round, and if we finish 6th we probably go against Memphis, unless they overtake GSW in which case 6th wouldnt be that good of a position to start POs. Who would you rather have in 1st round? Utah or Memphis?

[TunaFish]

As Nuggets fans, should we be more for finishing 6th,or 5th(4th is not out of reach but it probably doesnt change our 1st round matchup if standings stay as they are noe) ? We are 1 game behind Dallas, which would give us Utah in 1st round, and if we finish 6th we probably go against Memphis, unless they overtake GSW in which case 6th wouldnt be that good of a position to start POs. Who would you rather have in 1st round? Utah or Memphis?

All the teams above the Nuggets are tough opponents. Look for the teams that are weaker at center for the best matchup but unfortunately, both Utah and Memphis have strong centers. I would prefer Golden State because I think center is a weakness for them (I don't think Green is a center).

[Richard Miller]

As Nuggets fans, should we be more for finishing 6th,or 5th(4th is not out of reach but it probably doesnt change our 1st round matchup if standings stay as they are noe) ?

Probably 6th, since that would mean the potential second round wouldn't be against the Suns. But I think they should just pace themselves to be ready for whoever they play, i.e. keep Jokic reasonably fresh and do their best to integrate Jamal/MPJ if they are indeed back before the end of the regular season.

[Manolito]

Timberwolves schedule is tough until the end of the season, I see them winning maximum 10 games, 47W season best case. That means Nuggets need 9W in the remaining 17 games to avoid Play In. Should be possible, but schedule is tough as well (let's hope we don't remember that OKC game).

Regarding PO matchups, as long as we avoid Play In I am happy. I even like 6th seed, avoiding the Suns until WCF. From 2-6 the teams are pretty even. GSW might be superior for their championship pedigree but they have no real C to minimize Jokic and Draymond's health is a concern. If Murray and MPJ are back at their 80%, we can beat anyone.

[Coeur]

I'm not sure is there anything Buddy does better than Barton while being paid like 4x more

Huh? Buddy definitely does something better than Barton.

Almost my point. Even trading Barton for a 1 dimensional specialist is better than an ok at most things type guy.

[Richard Miller]

I'm not sure is there anything Buddy does better than Barton while being paid like 4x more

Huh? Buddy definitely does something better than Barton.

Almost my point. Even trading Barton for a 1 dimensional specialist is better than an ok at most things type guy.

Not with that contract

[Coeur]

Biggest off-season need that doesn’t even get fixed by a return of Murray and MPJ is getting some defensive help for AG50 esp covering 2-3’s


AG50 and is his defensive effort and impact are really underrated and untapped about reasons on top of Jokic for still being an above solid playoff team.


This group is special. If those other 2 guys show up with any juice this is the best chance the Nugs have ever had to win a championship.

[Coeur]

I really like some pistons players as potential trade targets.

Diallo- super athlete SG could be dynamic as a nug

Killian Hayes - I like his game a lot and possibly his fit alongside Bones Hyland or even maybe some with Jamal Murray


olynyk- not that Nugs need the depth this year but could be a great fit in Nugs system.


Olynyk, Hayes, Diallo
For
Barton, Morris, ?

[Manolito]

I really like some pistons players as potential trade targets.

Diallo- super athlete SG could be dynamic as a nug

Killian Hayes - I like his game a lot and possibly his fit alongside Bones Hyland or even maybe some with Jamal Murray


olynyk- not that Nugs need the depth this year but could be a great fit in Nugs system.


Olynyk, Hayes, Diallo
For
Barton, Morris, ?

One of the worst trade proposals I have seen in a while. Ask Pistons fans about their opinion on Hayes. 35% FG shooter and a turnover machine, what else do you need. Their only hope is he is 20yo. Why trading for Olynyk and his 12M per year contract to play as Jokic's backup? Diallo is useless with that shooting range.

On top of that, you are ready to send away Monte Morris

[mirmil]

If we are willing to send Monte Morris than we should look for a good 3nD player like Brooks from Grizzlies. Contracts are kind of similar and he could do well here with his really good D and spot up shooting. Not needing the ball much in his hands but hustling at the defensive end of the floor would boost us up when Murray returns.

[Manolito]

If we are willing to send Monte Morris than we should look for a good 3nD player like Brooks from Grizzlies. Contracts are kind of similar and he could do well here with his really good D and spot up shooting. Not needing the ball much in his hands but hustling at the defensive end of the floor would boost us up when Murray returns.

Really?? Do you barely watch any game??

https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/dillon-brooks-usage-rate-by-season

Brooks has an usage rate 28.5% this season, which is almost Jokic comparable. Brooks is a good player with great D but his shot selection and ballhog tendency prevents him from being an elite 3D. Anyway, why MEM would be interested in Monte??

Monte is going nowhere. He will lead the bench next season feeding Bones

[mirmil]

Cause their biggest need is back up PG and back up C. I don't see a big need in Monte next season, we should trade while his value is the highest in the trade market. Bones can lead 2nd unit, he has shown he is capable of it. And I actually watch some games, stats are not what I am primarily taking in consideration while proposing something. For example Harden has great stats, but when you watch him play in crucial moments he is invisible and making some alibi plays in clutch. Don't care if he scores 50 if he can't do anything when it matters. Same here with Brooks, would be better in starting lineup instead of Barton. Their height is almost equal and there are some similarities in their game as well with Brooks having much better D.

[Manolito]

I agree with Brooks is way better than Barton, but MEM won't trade him for Monte alone and he is not the best fit in the starting up lineup. Murray's usage is around 25%, no room for another high usage player

[Richard Miller]

Yup, the Nuggets need an off-ball player, who can shoot and is a proven defender otherwise you're not upgrading Barton and/or Monte at all - lateral move at best or more likely making the roster worse.

[psimanic1]

Maybe I misunderstood while watching game vs WAS, but it looks like we could see Murray in uni in one of the 4 home games we are playing next week