Ayatollah wrote:The Rebel wrote:Ayatollah wrote:Nuggets will stuck in mediocrity. How can you trade such solid value like the 13th pick for Lyles and draft another PF. I mean Lyles could be a solid fit on the PF but not at that price. But it seems the Nuggets FO valued this year´s draft as one of the worst if you look at them dumping 1sts like garbage.
What´s the reason they didn´t swing a deal for Eric Bledsoe? He would´ve been perfect for their ambitions (prime age PG with incredible defense and leadership skills).
But now they have the worst PG core in the league and a bunch of mediocre Power Forwards.
If they won´t make a splash in free agency the postseason will be out of reach, no doubt about that IMO.
Moving back 11 spots and getting a rpospect you like while not being forced to reach on a guy is an overpay?
By they way tell me a single draft that has had more than 3 all stars drafted in the last 50 picks in the draft, even the 96 and 03 drafts didn't get to that point. Our front office has an incredible record with the draft and scouting, how is your record?
LOL, they didn't trade for Bledsoe because they did not like the players that the Suns were requesting. It is funny how you always show up to comment but we all know you do not watch the Nuggets and know nothing about them. Murray is the PG of the future, there are several better PGs on the free agent market this summer to be placeholders.
We have $37 million in cap space while still retaining Plumlee's cap hold the offseason is far from over, and sorry the only team you can even try to argue getting better today was the Twolves, and I still don't think they will be better next year after the offseason is all said and done.
I think we will be fine, and the truth is anybody that thinks you are building a playoff contender based on the 13th overall pick taken in the same year needs to have their head examined.
Lyles isn´t worth trading down 9 spots in the 1st round, that´s my opinion (I guess it´s allowed to post your own point of view, even if you act like team boards are only for die-heart fans).
Not die hard fans, but if you are trying to act like an expert on a team you obviously know little about than expect to be called on it.
As for Lyles, you don't think he was worth that, who should the Nuggets have picked? DJ Wilson was picked 17th overall and is 3 months younger than Lyles and has many of the same strengths and weaknesses as Lyles, I would rather have Lyles over Wilson, but yet it was not worth moving back when nobody that fits our needs was available at that pick?
Ayatollah wrote:Regarding "your" PG situation: Murray might be your future PG but you didn´t know nothing as well because he only played a few games as playmaker and he had some flashes but his overall rookie campaign wasn´t more than solid. On the other hand, Eric Bledsoe is a very good PG on a solid contract with two years left (free agent PG´s in his category will receive way more money). Murray could´ve had all the time to learn being a playmaker (even if you think I don´t know nothing about them I know he was a SG on college), now he and Mudiay have to deliver or the Nuggets have to overpay for a PG.
But it´s only my opinion and I promise I will stop stealing your time and posting on your own personal board.
Now I know plenty about Murray, you see I have done more than look at a stat sheet. I have heard the numerous radio and TV interviews from guys like Isaih Thomas and Doc Rivers both of whom could not quit talking about Jokic and Murray. I have heard the front office and coaching staff rave about the guy, I have heard Make Miller rave about him, and most importantly I have watched him and was impressed before I even knew about the hernia issues. By the way Murray was a SG in college while playing for a coach who said that there is no such things as PGs anymore, and the starting PG and current NBA player who was by far the 2nd best player on that team was a 5'9" PG, they had no choice but to play him at SG. But in the NBA Murray is at his best at PG, he is a PG for his national team, he was a PG in high school, he was a PG in AAU, the only people who don't think he is a PG read scouting reports from last year and look at stat sheets, the rest know he is a PG and a damn good one at that.
By the way I know who Bledsoe is, he is an overpaid injury prone PG that would make a good placeholder for the next year or two while Murray finishes developing. What is the difference between overpaying Bledsoe or overpaying a free agent PG? Although I doubt we have to overpay a PG in free agency, you see we don't need a superstar, or even an all star this summer, we just need a placeholder. We aren't winning a championship this season either way, and Jokic is a better shot creator than 75% of the PGs around the league anyway.
) is a prospect with a big upside. He has great length (don't know actual measurements, going by eye test) for a SF and can score from any position, he had 51/41/86 last season for 8/3/2 and a steal in 18 minutes. He can put the ball on the floor and get to the hoop, has surprisingly fast first step. Not creative dribbler but if he has space he'll go for it. He has active hands on the defense, still not strong enough to defend better SFs in ABA league. He wasn't consistent enough in the offense, sometimes he would score 0 and sometimes 20.
