Nuggets Trades

[skywalker33]

Nope - I like George but he didn't impress me as a superstar during the playoffs and I'm hopefully Porter can exceed George someday.

Plus he's on the wrong side of 30yo

yes, but what would Denver say if clippers approach them and say they want to trade PG for Harris, Barton, MPJ and this year pick?

I’d say Hell No! For what Harris Barton and MPJ bring it's already better than what George gives IMO. Adding in a pick is superfluous.

[Manolito]

Jrue officially for sale as expected.

Lots of competitors, most likely he will be expensive and I don´t think we have the assets. Trade would be based on Barton or Harris contracts and both players have a very low market value at the moment.

Harris + Monte + Bol Bol + pick 21 + FRP22 does not seem to be enough.

[hsfolk]

Jrue officially for sale as expected.

Lots of competitors, most likely he will be expensive and I don´t think we have the assets. Trade would be based on Barton or Harris contracts and both players have a very low market value at the moment.

Harris + Monte + Bol Bol + pick 21 + FRP22 does not seem to be enough.

y'all have the assets, y'all just don't want to give up Porter

[skywalker33]

Harris + Monte + Bol Bol + pick 21 + FRP22 does not seem to be enough.

Depends on perspective, I think that’s MORE than what I want to give

[NuggetsWY]

Jrue officially for sale as expected.

Lots of competitors, most likely he will be expensive and I don´t think we have the assets. Trade would be based on Barton or Harris contracts and both players have a very low market value at the moment.

Harris + Monte + Bol Bol + pick 21 + FRP22 does not seem to be enough.

y'all have the assets, y'all just don't want to give up Porter

I think the Nuggets have made that abundantly clear and so have the Nuggets' posters on this forum.
Porter's on a cheap salary and the Nuggets took the gamble nobody else wanted to take. I think they'd be willing to trade Porter, but it would take a fantastic deal for a young All-Star or multiple 1sts, etc. His potential far exceeds anything anyone would be willing to offer.

You are welcome to suggest a Porter trade, but nobody around here wants to give him away - especially because he's the ideal complement to the Jokic-Murray tandem.

[NuggetsWY]

Harris + Monte + Bol Bol + pick 21 + FRP22 does not seem to be enough.

Depends on perspective, I think that’s MORE than what I want to give

I'm not a fan of trading Morris or Bol - but assuming we are still talking about Jrue, I'd do that.
I also think that combination is about as extravagant as I'd be willing to go. If they want Dozier instead of Morris, fine. If they want Barton instead of Harris, fine. If they want Cancar or Bates-Diop or another deep bench player, fine. But two 1st, a starter, 2 bench players with potential --- that's enough.

As much as I like Morris, he is expendable. I see him as a starting PG on some teams, a good-to-great backup for others (including Denver where Murray & Jokic handle the ball).

Bol's uniqueness makes him desirable but I see him as a good bench player or maybe 4th or 5th starter.

Holiday seems like a player that just might help the Nuggets contend next year and maybe for a year or two more. I like adding his experience and solid two-way playing.

[SkillzFromThe6]

I'm not giving up MPJ or Bol Bol for Jrue Holiday. I might give up Bol Bol for Beal/Booker though.

Nuggets receive:
Jrue Holiday

Pelicans receive:
Gary Harris
Will Barton
Monte Morris

P.J. Dozier can handle backup PG duties or you can even draft a PG in the draft like Grant Riller, Tyrell Terry or Cassius Winston.

Only offer that's beating that is Brooklyn:
(I don't know how they'd match salaries)

Brooklyn receives:
Jrue Holiday

Pelicans receive:
Caris LeVert
Spencer Dinwiddie
Jarrett Allen

3rd team?

[skywalker33]

Jrue officially for sale as expected.

Lots of competitors, most likely he will be expensive and I don´t think we have the assets. Trade would be based on Barton or Harris contracts and both players have a very low market value at the moment.

Harris + Monte + Bol Bol + pick 21 + FRP22 does not seem to be enough.

y'all have the assets, y'all just don't want to give up Porter

You don’t trade gold for copper

[stoo]

of course I hope we retain MPJ and he turns out good. But I am not sure Denver is not going to actually trade him, for his personality reasons. Connely said 2 days ago, that they like players that don't think only about themselves.
And MPJ is not nearly a perfect complementary peace to Jokic and Murray, as that would have to be an extraordinary defensive player.

I wouldn't be surprised the least to see a trade happening very soon, that sends MPJ in a package, for a good player and a less exciting prospect

Bol Bol we keep

[The Rebel]

Jrue officially for sale as expected.

Lots of competitors, most likely he will be expensive and I don´t think we have the assets. Trade would be based on Barton or Harris contracts and both players have a very low market value at the moment.

Harris + Monte + Bol Bol + pick 21 + FRP22 does not seem to be enough.

y'all have the assets, y'all just don't want to give up Porter

Why would we? Nobody else is offering anything close to MPJ for 1 year of Jrue.

[The Rebel]

of course I hope we retain MPJ and he turns out good. But I am not sure Denver is not going to actually trade him, for his personality reasons. Connely said 2 days ago, that they like players that don't think only about themselves.
And MPJ is not nearly a perfect complementary peace to Jokic and Murray, as that would have to be an extraordinary defensive player.

I wouldn't be surprised the least to see a trade happening very soon, that sends MPJ in a package, for a good player and a less exciting prospect

Bol Bol we keep

Where has MPJ shown to think only of himself? Before you even bring it up you should go read what he actually said in the playoffs. He was not only right about what he said, he went out of his way to talk about his very talented teammates in addition to Jokic and Murray.

[The Rebel]

A couple of things to remember is that at this point we really only have to beat out the other offers. Let's be real, he is a guard on the wrong side of 30 with 1 year left on his deal and he misses an average of 20 games every year. He is not good enough to trade an all star type player and expect to improve, and so good team's are not breaking up their core.

Young rebuilding teams are not going to want him because he does not fit their timeline, so we only have to compete against teams that are close to the playoffs or better.

The Bucks have DDV and nothing else of real value, plus they have to take back Bledsoe. Their pick this year is worse than ours and their next available 1st rounder is 4 or more years away.

I would easily take Barton over anybody the Lakers, Rockets, and Clippers are likely to offer and the Lakers and Clippers do not have any picks.

The Warriors have the 2nd overall pick, but then the Pelicans have to take back Wiggins. I don't think it is worth that.

The Pacers may move Oladipo and bring back JRue, but I do not see the Pelicans wanting Oladipo so who takes him? Do they offer Turner?



The Heat have the assets will they offer Hero? If so they can have Jrue.

Philadelphia can only send overpaid contracts.

I don't see the Raptors giving up OG or Siakam for Jrue, and no way the Pelicans take back Lowry.

The Grizzlies have a couple of picks next year and an interesting mix of young guys, would they take the risk?

Maybe the Blazers can spin McCullom to a 3rd team and add a couple of guys to make it work, but would they?

Utah could use him, but how without including Conley or Gobert, and what teams want those 2 and will give assets to help get Jrue

Dallas does not have much to offer and you have to take Hardway JRs or a worse deal to make it work.

[skywalker33]

A couple of things to remember is that at this point we really only have to beat out the other offers. Let's be real, he is a guard on the wrong side of 30 with 1 year left on his deal and he misses an average of 20 games every year. He is not good enough to trade an all star type player and expect to improve, and so good team's are not breaking up their core.

Young rebuilding teams are not going to want him because he does not fit their timeline, so we only have to compete against teams that are close to the playoffs or better.

The Bucks have DDV and nothing else of real value, plus they have to take back Bledsoe. Their pick this year is worse than ours and their next available 1st rounder is 4 or more years away.

I would easily take Barton over anybody the Lakers, Rockets, and Clippers are likely to offer and the Lakers and Clippers do not have any picks.

The Warriors have the 2nd overall pick, but then the Pelicans have to take back Wiggins. I don't think it is worth that.

The Pacers may move Oladipo and bring back JRue, but I do not see the Pelicans wanting Oladipo so who takes him? Do they offer Turner?

The Heat have the assets will they offer Hero? If so they can have Jrue.

Philadelphia can only send overpaid contracts.

I don't see the Raptors giving up OG or Siakam for Jrue, and no way the Pelicans take back Lowry.

The Grizzlies have a couple of picks next year and an interesting mix of young guys, would they take the risk?

Maybe the Blazers can spin McCullom to a 3rd team and add a couple of guys to make it work, but would they?

Utah could use him, but how without including Conley or Gobert, and what teams want those 2 and will give assets to help get Jrue

Dallas does not have much to offer and you have to take Hardway JRs or a worse deal to make it work.

MAkes perfect sense to me, just hope the Nuggets aren't set up to bid against themselves

[skywalker33]

of course I hope we retain MPJ and he turns out good. But I am not sure Denver is not going to actually trade him, for his personality reasons. Connely said 2 days ago, that they like players that don't think only about themselves.
And MPJ is not nearly a perfect complementary peace to Jokic and Murray, as that would have to be an extraordinary defensive player.

I wouldn't be surprised the least to see a trade happening very soon, that sends MPJ in a package, for a good player and a less exciting prospect

Bol Bol we keep

No way we trade MPJ just to keep Bol, KSE has already proclaimed Porter off-limits in trades. Love to hear something that says differently. And let NOP find someone who's gonna offer the haul they want for a 30yo gold, making $26M with one year on his deal, it isn't like he's Kawhi.

[The Rebel]

Look at it this way, the likely offer from Denver is

Morris, who is still only in his 3rd year in the league and looks like a sure fire long term starter in the right situation. He is a great fit with the Pelicans and fits with their core as a guy who can play on or off the ball and still be effective and shoots just under 40% on 3s.

Barton is the 2 way player they lose in Jrue he is the veteran that can help stabilize them through the ups and downs.

The 22nd overall pick is likely going to be required.

The question is what is the filler? Or the value ad? Who does it come from? Nobody is going to give up a good young starting quality PG and a very good perimeter defender to a team that really needs those qualities for a guy like Jrue. While Jrue gets hyped a lot, he is a borderline all star that fits what we need. 2 starting quality players and a pick is a pretty solid offer for that tier of player.

Bol could be a great fit with Ingram and Zion on offense and his length will help long term with Zion just not having the height to guard a lot of true centers. Hayes is a good hustle guy but a terrible fit as a starter with Zion and Ingram. Does it take Bol?

Are they high on Cancar, Bol, or KBD? While they haven't done much in Nuggets uniforms these teams follow guys for a very long time. Can we get a 2nd back for sending one of those guys?


Our next question is depth. Obviously it will be some rotation of Murray/Jrue/ Harris/ and Dozier in the backcourt so you would still need a depth guy and Harris is going to be coming off the bench? If Harris gets his confidence back that is one hell of a backcourt rotation if you think about it. Re-sign Grant and find a suitable C/PF type and we can live with young backup forwards.

[THE J0KER]

Pelicans Discussing Trade Of Jrue Holiday
NOV 4, 2020 10:33 AM


The New Orleans Pelicans are "openly discussing" a trade of Jrue Holiday with "several contending teams pursuing," sources tell Shams Charania of The Athletic.

Holiday can become a free agent in 2022 and is in a more advanced stage of his career than the Pelicans' core.

The Brooklyn Nets, Milwaukee Bucks and Denver Nuggets have been among the teams linked to Holiday in prior reports, but Charania doesn't specify which teams have held talks with the Pelicans.

We have no asset to get Jrue, but we can send a "big package" offer for him (Harris, Barton, Bol, #22 - but also ask their #39 2nd rounder). If he comes I'm not afraid he will go from the contender team already in 2021.

[stoo]

I'd like to see Ben Simmons in Denver

[THE J0KER]

New idea, if we have some secret late lottery pick in the upcoming draft:

Denver: G.Hayward, #14-BOS
Indiana: G.Harris, W.Barton, #22-DEN, #26-BOS
Boston: M.Turner

[skywalker33]

New idea, if we have some secret late lottery pick in the upcoming draft:

Denver: G.Hayward, #14-BOS
Indiana: G.Harris, W.Barton, #22-DEN, #26-BOS
Boston: M.Turner

One of your more interesting proposals, not as much for next season but beyond. With Hayward coming off the cap after next season, we could potentially get into the Giannis sweepstake. Not crazy about Hayward here, he'd have to play SG or off the bench as I don't see MPJ staying on the bench next season. I also like the opportunity to move up into SG Vassell, Hampton or Josh Green territory

[THE J0KER]

New idea, if we have some secret late lottery pick in the upcoming draft:

Denver: G.Hayward, #14-BOS
Indiana: G.Harris, W.Barton, #22-DEN, #26-BOS
Boston: M.Turner

One of your more interesting proposals, not as much for next season but beyond. With Hayward coming off the cap after next season, we could potentially get into the Giannis sweepstake. Not crazy about Hayward here, he'd have to play SG or off the bench as I don't see MPJ staying on the bench next season. I also like the opportunity to move up into SG Vassell, Hampton or Josh Green territory

Plan-A is to play him as SG starter in the Murray-Hayward-MPJ-Grant-Jokic lineup and then in 2021 when his max contract expires to sign him around 50/3 (which is his new market price after that devastating injury in 2017) and prepare cap for MPJ big contract. The extra motivation for such a trade scenario would be if our front office notices some interesting talent with decent chances to be available at #14 but not at #22. Remember that in late lottery pick range we picked Porter jr in 2018 and almost picked Donovan Mitchell in the previous 2017 draft.