Nuggets Trades

[The Rebel]

Heard Collins wants to get paid and ATL seems reluctant to do so. I like Collins but not sure he’d be a good fit here and if we could fit him into our Cap

I like Collins also, but I don't think he fits well next to Jokic. Then again, he and Jokic are both rather high-IQ bb-wise; so it just might work.

I am not a fan of Collins, while I don't remember watching many Hawks games last season, the season before I did, and Collins is not a good fit defensively for our system.

I would love to get my hands on Hunter or Reddish though, I think both could be a good fit at backup SF and develop into a swing guy.

[skywalker33]

You never trade an asset to a team that you might face in Play Off. We have to learn from Nurkic and Donovan Mitchell (even Gobert) mistakes.

There are still another 25 teams in the league to complete trades

Just ONE option, plenty more. As I said, more to do with my Scrubb obsession.....let's hear your potential trades...

[NuggetsWY]

Cleveland - Nance
for
Denver - Barton

Cleveland could use a SG, Barton would likely be a starter. Cleveland's going to want youth and/or picks. But I'd call Barton the better player, so I doubt Denver offers more than a 2nd round pick.

Denver could use a backup to Porter. Nance is a decent shooter and a solid rebounder. His length and athletic ability make him a decent defender.

[NuggetsWY]

Orlando - Gordon & Carter-Williams
for
Denver - Harris & Morris

Orlando grabs a solid two-way combo-guard in Morris plus they gamble that Harris reacquires his shooting touch.

Denver acquires a combo-forward that may start at PF or else would probably the first forward off the bench plus they acquire a solid wing defender to come off the bench.

Arguments could be made by either team that they should receive a pick.

[The Rebel]

Cleveland - Nance
for
Denver - Barton

Cleveland could use a SG, Barton would likely be a starter. Cleveland's going to want youth and/or picks. But I'd call Barton the better player, so I doubt Denver offers more than a 2nd round pick.

Denver could use a backup to Porter. Nance is a decent shooter and a solid rebounder. His length and athletic ability make him a decent defender.

I think that is an easy no for the Nuggets. Barton is a considerably better player than Nance.

Orlando - Gordon & Carter-Williams
for
Denver - Harris & Morris

Orlando grabs a solid two-way combo-guard in Morris plus they gamble that Harris reacquires his shooting touch.

Denver acquires a combo-forward that may start at PF or else would probably the first forward off the bench plus they acquire a solid wing defender to come off the bench.

Arguments could be made by either team that they should receive a pick.

I think that is an easy no for the Magic. For some reason they want to keep Gordon, and they are not likely to have much interest in a veteran SG with Fournier still on the books.

[eathb_au]

The idea is to have both Harris and a player like Gordon/Grant. Trading Harris out for Gordon introduces the idea that we can now defend scoring forwards but not quick guards.

[FilNugsFan]

By all indications, seems like Denver is going all in on MPJ. I'm all for it, but somehow I'm still hoping that they could trade for a solid 3-D guy as an insurance given the abundance of guards in the lineup.

[The Rebel]

The idea is to have both Harris and a player like Gordon/Grant. Trading Harris out for Gordon introduces the idea that we can now defend scoring forwards but not quick guards.

By all indications, seems like Denver is going all in on MPJ. I'm all for it, but somehow I'm still hoping that they could trade for a solid 3-D guy as an insurance given the abundance of guards in the lineup.

I think we all know that our lack of proven depth in the front court is a problem, who do you see that we may be able to go get?

[THE J0KER]

Clippers: Harden
Houston: Wall, Bol Bol, Zeke Nnaji, Zubac, WAS2021, WAS2023, LAC2027
Washington: Harris, Barton, Lou Williams, Monte Morris
Denver: George

If George gives some kind of guarantee that he will stay in Denver at least until 2023.

Murray-George-Porter-Whoever-Jokic will bring us a ring just in time before Giannis arrives at Lakers.

[skywalker33]

Clippers: Harden
Houston: Wall, Bol Bol, Zeke Nnaji, Zubac, WAS2021, WAS2023, DEN2025, LAC2027
Washington: Harris, Barton, Lou Williams
Denver: George

If George gives some kind of guarantee that he will stay in Denver at least until 2023.

easy pass, PG13 isn't worth that haul anymore, especially on the wrong side of 30

[THE J0KER]

Clippers: Harden
Houston: Wall, Bol Bol, Zeke Nnaji, Zubac, WAS2021, WAS2023, DEN2025, LAC2027
Washington: Harris, Barton, Lou Williams
Denver: George

If George gives some kind of guarantee that he will stay in Denver at least until 2023.

easy pass, PG13 isn't worth that haul anymore, especially on the wrong side of 30

He is young enough to play the next 3 seasons on the all-star level. The fact that he is not the most wanted player in NBA anymore will be helpful to him to stay in Denver and spend his last prime years in true contender as he wanted. He falls in the past several times in playoff under pressure, but his defense was always elite, and as part of BIG4 elite offense there will not be so big pressure on him to rush his offense in PO.

[NuggetsWY]

Clippers: Harden
Houston: Wall, Bol Bol, Zeke Nnaji, Zubac, WAS2021, WAS2023, DEN2025, LAC2027
Washington: Harris, Barton, Lou Williams
Denver: George

If George gives some kind of guarantee that he will stay in Denver at least until 2023.

easy pass, PG13 isn't worth that haul anymore, especially on the wrong side of 30

He is young enough to play the next 3 seasons on the all-star level. The fact that he is not the most wanted player in NBA anymore will be helpful to him to stay in Denver and spend his last prime years in true contender as he wanted. He falls in the past several times in playoff under pressure, but his defense was always elite, and as part of BIG4 elite offense there will not be so big pressure on him to rush his offense in PO.

I think one salary needs to be taken off the Rockets' end. No doubt it would have to be Bol or Nnaji (hopefully Bol).

Will the Clippers do this deal? I'm not sure. Harden's defense isn't anywhere close to George's defense, but it is under-rated by most. So they lose some defense but they acquire a great scorer - and they just might do this deal.

Will the Rockets do this deal? I'm not sure. Would Wall work with Westbrook? That's a lot of energy, but it takes the Rockets in a new direction in terms of playing style. It would be interesting. They've had too few big men. Adding Zubac & Nnaji (or Bol) would be a start, plus the draft picks means they just might do this deal.

Will the Wizards do this deal? I don't think so. Without a doubt, trading Wall for Harris, Barton, Williams is not going to make them better. Giving up a couple of draft picks makes it worse for them in the long run.

Will the Nuggets do this deal? I'd say, maybe but not with any confidence. They aren't going to like giving up Nnaji because he looks like he'll be a great fit next to Jokic (maybe). They aren't going to like giving up Bol because he is a unique talent that will be difficult for other teams to deal with. --- Why should Denver make the deal? George would bring more defense to Denver, but not as much as most seem to think. This would an all-in type move for the next couple of years, but it would hurt their long-term future.

[skywalker33]

Clippers: Harden
Houston: Wall, Bol Bol, Zeke Nnaji, Zubac, WAS2021, WAS2023, DEN2025, LAC2027
Washington: Harris, Barton, Lou Williams
Denver: George

If George gives some kind of guarantee that he will stay in Denver at least until 2023.

easy pass, PG13 isn't worth that haul anymore, especially on the wrong side of 30

He is young enough to play the next 3 seasons on the all-star level. The fact that he is not the most wanted player in NBA anymore will be helpful to him to stay in Denver and spend his last prime years in true contender as he wanted. He falls in the past several times in playoff under pressure, but his defense was always elite, and as part of BIG4 elite offense there will not be so big pressure on him to rush his offense in PO.

PG13 has already publicly said "No Thanks" to the Nuggets, you think that the FO doesn't easily forget about that ? And if he's not the "most wanted", why are we paying for him like is ?

[THE J0KER]

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Will the Rockets do this deal? I'm not sure. Would Wall work with Westbrook? That's a lot of energy, but it takes the Rockets in a new direction in terms of playing style. It would be interesting. They've had too few big men. Adding Zubac & Nnaji (or Bol) would be a start, plus the draft picks means they just might do this deal.

Will the Wizards do this deal? I don't think so. Without a doubt, trading Wall for Harris, Barton, Williams is not going to make them better. Giving up a couple of draft picks makes it worse for them in the long run.

In this trade Wall's supermax contract is valued as (very) negative asset, one of the worst contracts in the NBA today. Wizards get rid of it using 2 first picks and get 4 useful "win now" players to reach the playoff (lead by Beal).

Houston as a rebuilding team is focused on young promising players and draft picks, and use cap space to take Wall albatross contract. Until Wall contract expires in 2023 team will tank the next three seasons to get high picks, so they must trade Westbrook too ASAP for other assets.

Clippers using Lakers formula with two TOP5 superstars and Nuggets attacking ring with BIG4 formula.

[TunaFish]

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Will the Rockets do this deal? I'm not sure. Would Wall work with Westbrook? That's a lot of energy, but it takes the Rockets in a new direction in terms of playing style. It would be interesting. They've had too few big men. Adding Zubac & Nnaji (or Bol) would be a start, plus the draft picks means they just might do this deal.

Will the Wizards do this deal? I don't think so. Without a doubt, trading Wall for Harris, Barton, Williams is not going to make them better. Giving up a couple of draft picks makes it worse for them in the long run.

In this trade Wall's supermax contract is valued as (very) negative asset, one of the worst contracts in the NBA today. Wizards get rid of it using 2 first picks and get 4 useful "win now" players to reach the playoff (lead by Beal).

Houston as a rebuilding team is focused on young promising players and draft picks, and use cap space to take Wall albatross contract. Until Wall contract expires in 2023 team will tank the next three seasons to get high picks, so they must trade Westbrook too ASAP for other assets.

Clippers using Lakers formula with two TOP5 superstars and Nuggets attacking ring with BIG4 formula.

I agree with you about Wall. And that is a sticking point, his contract. The bigger issue is whether he can fully recover from his injury and whoever would take him would look foolish if they weren't sure that he could fully recover.

Anybody know if Wall is likely to fully return to his role as a speedy, great assist point guard?

[skywalker33]

Clippers: Harden
Houston: Wall, Bol Bol, Zeke Nnaji, Zubac, WAS2021, WAS2023, LAC2027
Washington: Harris, Barton, Lou Williams, Monte Morris
Denver: George

If George gives some kind of guarantee that he will stay in Denver at least until 2023.

Murray-George-Porter-Whoever-Jokic will bring us a ring just in time before Giannis arrives at Lakers.

And what does our bench look like, worst in the NBA ??

[FilNugsFan]

I think we all know that our lack of proven depth in the front court is a problem, who do you see that we may be able to go get?

Not sure how high Houston values him, but I like Danuel House Jr. He's got the athleticism to defend the wing, and also the size to defend forwards if needed to switch. He can shoot 3s and simply a better offensive player than Craig.

[Richard Miller]

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Will the Rockets do this deal? I'm not sure. Would Wall work with Westbrook? That's a lot of energy, but it takes the Rockets in a new direction in terms of playing style. It would be interesting. They've had too few big men. Adding Zubac & Nnaji (or Bol) would be a start, plus the draft picks means they just might do this deal.

Will the Wizards do this deal? I don't think so. Without a doubt, trading Wall for Harris, Barton, Williams is not going to make them better. Giving up a couple of draft picks makes it worse for them in the long run.

In this trade Wall's supermax contract is valued as (very) negative asset, one of the worst contracts in the NBA today. Wizards get rid of it using 2 first picks and get 4 useful "win now" players to reach the playoff (lead by Beal).

Houston as a rebuilding team is focused on young promising players and draft picks, and use cap space to take Wall albatross contract. Until Wall contract expires in 2023 team will tank the next three seasons to get high picks, so they must trade Westbrook too ASAP for other assets.

Clippers using Lakers formula with two TOP5 superstars and Nuggets attacking ring with BIG4 formula.

In that trade Clippers get massive upgrade, Houston gets top young prospects and picks and Denver gets... George. Do you hate the Nuggets or something?

[THE J0KER]

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Will the Rockets do this deal? I'm not sure. Would Wall work with Westbrook? That's a lot of energy, but it takes the Rockets in a new direction in terms of playing style. It would be interesting. They've had too few big men. Adding Zubac & Nnaji (or Bol) would be a start, plus the draft picks means they just might do this deal.

Will the Wizards do this deal? I don't think so. Without a doubt, trading Wall for Harris, Barton, Williams is not going to make them better. Giving up a couple of draft picks makes it worse for them in the long run.

In this trade Wall's supermax contract is valued as (very) negative asset, one of the worst contracts in the NBA today. Wizards get rid of it using 2 first picks and get 4 useful "win now" players to reach the playoff (lead by Beal).

Houston as a rebuilding team is focused on young promising players and draft picks, and use cap space to take Wall albatross contract. Until Wall contract expires in 2023 team will tank the next three seasons to get high picks, so they must trade Westbrook too ASAP for other assets.

Clippers using Lakers formula with two TOP5 superstars and Nuggets attacking ring with BIG4 formula.

In that trade Clippers get massive upgrade, Houston gets top young prospects and picks and Denver gets... George. Do you hate the Nuggets or something?

George, Lou W., Zubac and FRP is not so bad package for a superstar which don't want to stay in Houston anymore, unless you underestimate PG13 value badly. George is true TOP20 all-star player in offense and defense both. His famous bad shooting days are deadly for a team where the only "plan-A" options are Westbrook or Kawhi, but in Denver with Jokic-Murray-Porter nobody will force him to shoot these days, and even in such OFF-offense days he will be very useful for the Nuggets with his elite defense.

[Richard Miller]

In this trade Wall's supermax contract is valued as (very) negative asset, one of the worst contracts in the NBA today. Wizards get rid of it using 2 first picks and get 4 useful "win now" players to reach the playoff (lead by Beal).

Houston as a rebuilding team is focused on young promising players and draft picks, and use cap space to take Wall albatross contract. Until Wall contract expires in 2023 team will tank the next three seasons to get high picks, so they must trade Westbrook too ASAP for other assets.

Clippers using Lakers formula with two TOP5 superstars and Nuggets attacking ring with BIG4 formula.

In that trade Clippers get massive upgrade, Houston gets top young prospects and picks and Denver gets... George. Do you hate the Nuggets or something?

George, Lou W., Zubac and FRP is not so bad package for a superstar which don't want to stay in Houston anymore, unless you underestimate PG13 value badly. George is true TOP20 all-star player in offense and defense both. His famous bad shooting days are deadly for a team where the only "plan-A" options are Westbrook or Kawhi, but in Denver with Jokic-Murray-Porter nobody will force him to shoot these days, and even in such OFF-offense days he will be very useful for the Nuggets with his elite defense.

Porter would become an afterthought behind Murray, Jokic and George. And no way would I facilitate Harden to Clippers.