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No Question About It. Nuggets Must Be Blown Up Completely 

Post#1 » by BballerShotCaller » Mon Apr 26, 2010 8:50 am

No Question About It. Nuggets Must Be Blown Up Completely, Coach and All.

Lets get some serious suggestions in here on how to go about COMPLETELY RE-MAKING THIS TEAM.

Suggest some players to be packaged for trades. There is a lot of value on this roster, and a skillful GM would be able to get this process started.

I would seriously look at making a run at prying Chris Paul away from NO, I don't think it will be that difficult because (behind the scenes) Paul is gonna probably be giving them a short list of teams to trade him to.

What would you think Nuggets can put together to get Paul?
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Post#2 » by Nutty Nats Fan » Mon Apr 26, 2010 9:26 am

I see no way Denver is able to make an offer for Paul. Other teams could beat it.

But, heck, for fun... rebuilding the Nuggets.

Three team trade, because making the salaries match separately was being tricky.

Raptors receive: Kmart (expiring), JR (expiring), future 1st.
Nuggets receive: Nene, Billups (expiring), Ty Lawson.
Nuggets receive: Bosh, Paul, Okafor, Posey, Marco Belinelli.

Most fans seems to agree on the Bosh deal (if Bosh wants to go to Denver).

I figure NO could get better? But if Paul asked to be traded to Denver, maybe it is close? They dump Posey, dump Okafor's contract and upgrade to Nene at center. They get Billups who is expiring and can help lead the team or be moved for assets, and a great young PG in Ty. Him and Collison could compete for time.

Nuggets:

Paul/
AA/Belinelli
Okafor/Petro
Melo/Balkman
Bosh/Birdman

Still some holes to fill, got the MLE. Need a backup PG not named AC. Another backup big too, but with the coaching staff fired, the new staff should hopefully actually play Petro.
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Post#3 » by carrottop12 » Mon Apr 26, 2010 9:44 am

If you guys blow up the team I'd say you are a good 3-4 years away from competing in any fashion.

I don't think I'd want to waste Melo's prime in rebuilding mode.
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Post#4 » by Nutty Nats Fan » Mon Apr 26, 2010 9:59 am

Bat wrote:If you guys blow up the team I'd say you are a good 3-4 years away from competing in any fashion.

I don't think I'd want to waste Melo's prime in rebuilding mode.

Blowing it like I posted above, while unrealistic, would keep the team competitive, even title contender status depending on whose on the bench. :lol:
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Post#5 » by BballerShotCaller » Mon Apr 26, 2010 12:22 pm

Nutty Nats Fan wrote:
Bat wrote:If you guys blow up the team I'd say you are a good 3-4 years away from competing in any fashion.

I don't think I'd want to waste Melo's prime in rebuilding mode.

Blowing it like I posted above, while unrealistic, would keep the team competitive, even title contender status depending on whose on the bench. :lol:


I actually think three team trades are more likely than ever this coming summer as well as the next Feb. Trade Deadline.

There will possibly be teams with space that have no chance at the free agents they are targeting.

AND there are GM's who have some really OBVIOUSLY poorly constructed teams that will need to do major roster reconstruction their because their fans and their team's Franchise player is going to be discontent if the status quo is continues
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Post#6 » by God Squad » Tue Apr 27, 2010 4:49 pm

I Agree, Something needs to be done about the current nuggets. I see no one as untouchable except Melo. But he has the most value. I say Nene, Kenyon, JR, Chauncey are on the block if i was GM. I'd keep birdman. He's a cheap big that defends.
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Post#7 » by MHZ » Tue Apr 27, 2010 11:36 pm

Pretty pathetic effort in this series to be sure, but I'm not overreacting as much as many of you are. It's pretty clear some of you don't watch the Nuggets on that regular of a basis.

Say what you want, and I understand Utah is missing two pretty key players, but the Nuggets hit some tough luck. The team that beat the Lakers in LA and the Cavs in Cleveland is nothing close to the team we see getting hammered by the Jazz. Not having George Karl is important. It just is. I don't put everything on Dantley by any means, but coaches matter in the playoffs. Kenyon Martin is so far from healthy right now it's absurd. I don't think it would be altogether different if he just sat out. I give him a ton of credit for playing through a serious injury, but he doesn't look healthy at all.

Everybody knew the Nuggets were thin up front, and that they needed Nene/Birdman/K-Mart to say healthy for this team to make a run comparable to last year. Birdman has had injuries all season. It remains to be seen if we'll ever see Birdman from last season. I honestly don't think we will. I already touched on K-Mart. Add essentially not having a head coach, and you get a pretty crappy team.

For kicks, I'll throw in Chauncey in the playoffs last year was a stud. He has been less so this season. I'm in the camp that he can bounce back next season. The team really needs to hope Ty Lawson can get decent minutes next season. Look at what the Suns are able to do with Nash/Dragic. If Lawson can come back next season clearly improved over his rookie season, the Nuggets can keep Billups relatively fresh.

I just don't see the reason to blow up a team that went to the conference finals a year ago, and held the second seed for the majority of the season, before the wheels came off late. If they can get a legitimate big man that can rebound and play meaningful minutes, it would be huge.
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Post#8 » by pickaxe » Wed Apr 28, 2010 6:09 am

BballerShotCaller wrote:No Question About It. Nuggets Must Be Blown Up Completely, Coach and All.

Lets get some serious suggestions in here on how to go about COMPLETELY RE-MAKING THIS TEAM.

Suggest some players to be packaged for trades. There is a lot of value on this roster, and a skillful GM would be able to get this process started.

I would seriously look at making a run at prying Chris Paul away from NO, I don't think it will be that difficult because (behind the scenes) Paul is gonna probably be giving them a short list of teams to trade him to.

What would you think Nuggets can put together to get Paul?


I'd even like Melo/Wade...I think Wade could give Melo the boost he needs to get over the hump.

BUT.....don't really want to think about it until we done with this season. I believe in our players and if they choose to not show up that will be the time to discuss. I mean ultimately what it comes down to is playoff guile. Ginobli has it, Westbrook has it, Melo has it, Kobe has it, and there a number of others.....basically who push themselves no matter what happens. As much as I hate ginobli flopping, playing with the broken nose and not slipping in performance is a trait a lot of players could use.
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Post#9 » by freakazoid » Sun May 2, 2010 6:12 am

Let's face it.

Snake from hell speaks the truth.

Denver sucks, and must be blown up.

First of all, I'd trade Crymelo and Billups. They both suck.

Birdman, K-mart, Nene, and all dipwads have lost the Lakers for you Crymelo Wahhhthonies.

Utah kicks ass, just like Denver mamas, beatch.
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Post#10 » by el loco » Sun May 2, 2010 10:17 pm

freakazoid wrote:Let's face it.

Snake from hell speaks the truth.

Denver sucks, and must be blown up.

First of all, I'd trade Crymelo and Billups. They both suck.

Birdman, K-mart, Nene, and all dipwads have lost the Lakers for you Crymelo Wahhhthonies.

Utah kicks ass, just like Denver mamas, beatch.


Yeah the Jazz looked great today. the part I liked best was how they choked away an excellent opportunity to steal one on the road. Three more games like this and it will be time for Utah to blow it up and the fire Sloan threads will run rampant once again. I can't wait :lol:
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Post#11 » by Nutty Nats Fan » Sun May 2, 2010 10:25 pm

freakazoid wrote:Snake from hell speaks the truth.

After the little show he put on, on the Jazz board, you think he speaks the truth? You just made yourself look like the biggest idiot in history! Good job.

And nice choke job by the Jazz.
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Post#12 » by ClevelandRocks8 » Mon May 24, 2010 8:15 pm

They definitely have to do something this year or Melo is walking. This team has no young talent other than Afflalo and Lawson.
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Post#13 » by milehigh » Tue May 25, 2010 9:19 pm

ClevelandRocks8 wrote:They definitely have to do something this year or Melo is walking. This team has no young talent other than Afflalo and Lawson.


Is that why the Nuggets and Melo are working on an extension?
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Post#14 » by Nuggets18 » Wed May 26, 2010 4:34 am

The Nuggets were the best team in the league when healthy and with a real coach. Do not forget that.

Some changes and this team is set to win a championship.

Nene and JR for Bosh *if not trade JR for Bass*
KMart for Okafor and Posey
Use the MLE
Trade next years 1st to Minny for their third 1st round pick

Billups - Lawson
Afflalo - Elliot Williams (Draft) / Mike Miller (MLE)
Melo - Graham - Posey
Bosh *Nene* - *Bass* - Birdman
Okafor - Solomon Alabi (Draft) / Jermaine O'Neal (MLE) - Johan Petro
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Post#15 » by The Rebel » Wed May 26, 2010 4:43 am

Nuggets18 wrote:The Nuggets were the best team in the league when healthy and with a real coach. Do not forget that.

Some changes and this team is set to win a championship.

Nene and JR for Bosh *if not trade JR for Bass*
KMart for Okafor and Posey
Use the MLE
Trade next years 1st to Minny for their third 1st round pick

Billups - Lawson
Afflalo - Elliot Williams (Draft) / Mike Miller (MLE)
Melo - Graham - Posey
Bosh *Nene* - *Bass* - Birdman
Okafor - Solomon Alabi (Draft) / Jermaine O'Neal (MLE) - Johan Petro

If you honestly believe that the Nuggets were the best team in the league, why the **** would you want them too trade 3 of their top 5 players?

While I would not call them the top team in the league, the fact is they were certainly top 4 and with a some better depth and possibly an upgrade at PF they will be fine.
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Post#16 » by Nuggets18 » Wed May 26, 2010 4:49 am

The Rebel wrote:If you honestly believe that the Nuggets were the best team in the league, why the **** would you want them too trade 3 of their top 5 players?

While I would not call them the top team in the league, the fact is they were certainly top 4 and with a some better depth and possibly an upgrade at PF they will be fine.


I would trade JR cause he is an idiot and will never mature
I would trade Nene only if we can get Bosh or maybe Al Jefferson in return
I would trade KMart because he is injury prone and undersized.

KMart is my favorite player, but I would trade him for Okafor. And best case scenario could the Hornets buy him out.

Even the best team can improve, Lakers were/are looking to trade Bynum for Bosh.
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Post#17 » by Nuggets18 » Wed May 26, 2010 4:51 am

Billups is getting older and we need a real 2nd option, and KMart + JR for Bosh will never happen therefore the Nene and JR for Bosh deal.

Bosh and KMart is too small of a front court, therefore the KMart for Okafor deal

And JR is a (Please Use More Appropriate Word)
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Post#18 » by melo mvp 15 » Wed Jun 2, 2010 6:01 pm

Brand, #2 to the Nuggets for KMart or Nene and future first or JR

then follow possibly up with #2 to the Nets for #3 and Lee or T-Will or Dallas's pick

the reason i would trade down is b/c i think we could use Cousins or Favors more than Turner... so I would draft Cousins and use Lee or Williams as a bench sparkplug that could eventually start... or use the first to draft Jordan Crawford or some other scorer
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Post#19 » by Grime_Wizard » Sat Jun 5, 2010 6:17 pm

There are trade rumors about the Wolves looking to get Anthony Randolph, which means they have Jefferson, Love and Randolph as there big men. Since there isnt enough time to go around they would have to trade one of them, Jefferson or Love is good to me
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Post#20 » by [RCG] » Fri Jun 18, 2010 6:19 am

Rumor based around C. Anthony headed to Minnesota... you should check out the Timberwolves board...
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