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Which of these off-season scenarios is most likely (if any)
Posted: Sat May 1, 2010 12:00 am
by slipspeed
Do you think any of these are possible?
Scenario 1 :
Bosh wants to leave Toronto (very likely) , he says agrees to a S&T Deal to play with Melo and Denver. Toronto gets Nene and J.R. Smith (and a pick or two??)
Scenario 2:
Phoenix gets bounced this round and Amare opts out and wants to leave. We involve a similar S&T deal for him.
Scenario 3:
Lakers get bounced (or maybe even win). Fisher retires or they realize he can't be a starter any longer, Bynum for Billups.
Re: Which of these off-season scenarios is most likely (if any)
Posted: Sat May 1, 2010 1:13 am
by milehigh
Scenario 1 is probably the most likely still not saying much. Toronto may not want to add that much salary especially after watching Nene and J.R. in this years playoffs.
I would love all 3 we need another big, our bigs just aren't getting it done anymore. We need Nene, K-Mart, and Birdman to all be healthy and that perfect storm just isn't something to count on. It will be an interesting off season in Denver that is for sure. Hopefully it doesn't start tonight.
Re: Which of these off-season scenarios is most likely (if any)
Posted: Sat May 1, 2010 7:08 am
by almost famous
One or two sounds best to me. I don't want JR or Nene back. I would rather have Bosh than Amare.
Re: Which of these off-season scenarios is most likely (if any)
Posted: Sat May 1, 2010 8:04 am
by pickaxe
One thing about JR & Nene together is they run the pick and roll really well together. That is definitely a selling point if a team were to take both on.
Re: Which of these off-season scenarios is most likely (if any)
Posted: Sat May 1, 2010 2:38 pm
by manchambo
almost famous wrote:One or two sounds best to me. I don't want JR or Nene back. I would rather have Bosh than Amare.
I don't really understand the hate for Nene. Am I the only one who saw his value in his absence last night? Boozer and Millsap had their way inside.
It's frustrating that Nene has the physical potential to play at a higher level, but why should we throw away a very solid, very strong big, just because we wish he would play closer to an allstar level?
I think that teams are more likely to take KMart in those scenarios anyway, as he's a big expiring contract. And I'd be fine with that.
Re: Which of these off-season scenarios is most likely (if any)
Posted: Sat May 1, 2010 2:50 pm
by eathy
In our system, Nene should be averaging 20-10 or something close to that.
But he's a pansy... and unless he somehow toughens up he'll never get close.
Re: Which of these off-season scenarios is most likely (if any)
Posted: Sat May 1, 2010 3:57 pm
by The Rebel
Scenario 1: I do not understand the fascination with Bosh. there is a reason that Toronto fans want him sign and traded for David Lee. Neither one plays defense, but Bosh puts up empty stats, and disappears when games get too physical. People bitch about Nene, but what happens when we have a max contract on a guy who does not bother to try on defense, and falls apart when we need him. At least with Nene he plays defense, and JR can be counted on to try to step up in big games.
Scenario 2 is actually probably the least likely as Amare is more likely to head to Miami, and Pheonix is not likely to want to bring back any kind of salary in the deal. Even if the Nuggets could get the deal done, I am not sure we need a guy like Amare on this team. I find the fact that his numbers jumped so much after the all star break to be suspect, add in the fact that he does not play defense, and I don't know if I would do the deal.
Scenario 3 would be something I could support although I think ti takes more then just Billups to get Bynum.
For all the hate Nene gets on this board, the fact is that he has turned into the most dependable big we have. Sadly he is the only one that has a post game at all, and can defend the post. Change from Nene to another big, not only do we spend much more money, but we lose what defense we have in the middle. Overall I would prefer to get someone like Hayword from Dallas and move Nene back to PF.
Re: Which of these off-season scenarios is most likely (if any)
Posted: Sat May 1, 2010 4:56 pm
by proscout
Scenario 1 would be a dream come true for me. After watching JR quit again before a game was even over, I've had it with him. Trade him before his value goes to absolute zero. And Nene has the ability to be a consistent big man for us, but he still hasn't and doesn't show signs of doing so anytime soon.
Saying that Toronto would do that deal, I then go out and use our MLE on Haywood. I also say to KMart that you opt out and we re-sign you to longer years at a lower price. If he says no, then use him at the trade deadline as a big expiring contract.
Am I'm not just saying this because of last night, but re-sign Graham and Petro. Those guys are people we need more of. They give more effort than they have talent, but I'd rather have that from my bench guys as opposed to guys like JR who give way less effort than they have talent.
Billups/Lawson
AA/?
Melo/Graham/Balkman
Bosh/K-Mart
Haywood/Petro/Birdman
Then it's just a matter of filling out the roster with a 3rd PG and a SG off the bench. Target a guy that will always be consistent, even if it's just for like 15 points a game. I'd rather have that then JR who, yeah he can go for 40 and win you a game, but then he can also go for 2 and then go into his pouting mood and cost you a game.
Re: Which of these off-season scenarios is most likely (if any)
Posted: Sun May 2, 2010 2:56 am
by michaelc204
The Rebel wrote:Scenario 1: I do not understand the fascination with Bosh. there is a reason that Toronto fans want him sign and traded for David Lee.
Lol, its a "rumor" but nothing serious. And no one on the raptors board wants Bosh for Lee to happen. Not one person.