Free Agent Targets

[DaFan334]

A trade might be hard for the Nuggets to pull off to improve the team so the only other way left to get a decent big will be by using our MLE or signing to Veteran Minimum contracts. Heres a list of some of the guys we should consider (also listed some guards in case we move JR for a big)

Joe Smith - Isn't terrible for a 4th big. Getting old.
Ray Allen - Karl might be able to draw him in for the full MLE
Tony Allen
Tyrus Thomas - Restricted
Brad Miller
Hakim Warrick - Might help make Melo happy
Zydrunas Ilgauskas
Shaq
Brendan Haywood
Kwame Brown - Vet Min
Ben Wallace
Luis Scola - Restricted
Rasual Butler
Craig Smith
D.J. Mbenga
Josh Powell
Ronnie Brewer
Udonis Haslem
Jermaine O'Neal
Quentin Richardson
Kurt Thomas
Josh Boone
Bobby Simmons
Tony Battie
Ike Diogu
Aaron Gray
Al Harrington - MLE?
Etan Thomas
Matt Barnes
Louis Amundson - From Colorado... might wanna come back home
Channing Frye - probably not worth the money hes gonna get
Juwan Howard
Ime Udoka
Matt Bonner
Roger Mason
Amir Johnson
Kyle Korver
Josh Howard
Mike Miller - Probably gonna get above MLE

[eathb_au]

A trade might be hard for the Nuggets to pull off to improve the team so the only other way left to get a decent big will be by using our MLE or signing to Veteran Minimum contracts. Heres a list of some of the guys we should consider (also listed some guards in case we move JR for a big)

Joe Smith - no
Ray Allen - no way in hell he plays for Karl again.
Tony Allen - no
Tyrus Thomas - no
Brad Miller - minimum only
Hakim Warrick - bad fit here.
Zydrunas Ilgauskas - no
Shaq - no
Brendan Haywood - would offer full MLE... hell would even offer a package of Billups for Kidd and a S&T to get him here.
Kwame Brown - would be good for the min
Ben Wallace - not sure.
Luis Scola - restricted, no chance.
Rasual Butler - no
Craig Smith - no
D.J. Mbenga - minimum... good practice player.
Josh Powell - no.
Ronnie Brewer - no
Udonis Haslem - MLE plz.
Jermaine O'Neal - MLE plz.
Quentin Richardson - only if we can't get anyone else.
Kurt Thomas - no
Josh Boone - would be good for minimum.
Bobby Simmons - no
Tony Battie - no
Ike Diogu - worth a try for the minimum.
Aaron Gray - would be a good get if we can him for the minimum.
Al Harrington - no
Etan Thomas - no
Matt Barnes - MLE if we can't get Mike Miller.
Louis Amundson - Already have the Birdman.
Channing Frye - would be great fit here... but almost close to no chance.
Juwan Howard - no.
Ime Udoka - no.
Matt Bonner - no.
Roger Mason - no.
Amir Johnson - for the minimum, would be great get.
Kyle Korver - yes for the minimum
Josh Howard - no
Mike Miller - Offer full MLE

[melo mvp 15]

^^ most those players you said only for the minimum will probably get close to the MLE...

I know that fanhouse is reporting we are in serious discussions with signing Brad Miller and hoopsworld is saying he is probably getting a deal worth the full MLE... I like Miller and I would welcome him for a two year MLE deal with a team option for the third

[melo mvp 15]

Joe Smith - maybe as a Malik Allen type player for the min.
Ray Allen - not rly a good fit
Tony Allen- maybe
Tyrus Thomas - Restricted- yes but would take a sign and trade b/c I've heard his value is at around 8 mil per year now
Brad Miller- yes and we are linked to him
Hakim Warrick - yes, but not that much $
Zydrunas Ilgauskas- yes only at minimum as one of the last resorts
Shaq- no
Brendan Haywood- hell yes, full MLE five year deal please! also mentioned to have interest in
Kwame Brown - yeah for the min
Ben Wallace- yes for the min
Luis Scola - Restricted- too expensive
Rasual Butler- not a horrible option, but don't actively pursue this guy
Craig Smith- ya, but idk his value
D.J. Mbenga- no
Josh Powell- yes
Ronnie Brewer- yes please
Udonis Haslem- yes
Jermaine O'Neal- most ppl like him, me not so much, but he could help somewhat
Quentin Richardson- maybe
Kurt Thomas- yes min.
Josh Boone- maybe min.
Bobby Simmons- no
Tony Battie- no
Ike Diogu- no
Aaron Gray- yes min
Al Harrington - no thanks
Etan Thomas- maybe min
Matt Barnes- maybe, but might ask for a lot of $
Louis Amundson - yes at a good price
Channing Frye - I like him, but he wants full MLE, which he isn't worth
Juwan Howard- no
Ime Udoka- no
Matt Bonner- maybe
Roger Mason- maybe
Amir Johnson- re-signed with TO
Kyle Korver- maybe
Josh Howard- no
Mike Miller - too expensive

I added these:
Linas Kleiza: yes
Josh Childress: maybe
Joel Anthony: yes
Earl Barron: no
flip Murray: maybe
Mikki Moore: no
Johan Petro: maybe
Malik Allen: hell no
NAte robinson: no
Shannon Brown: no

[DaFan334]

Looks like Amir Johnson is off that list. Kinda sucks, he was an interesting one.

Brad Miller could help a bit. Big body and would help spread the floor. The first big in the Melo Era that would be capable of hitting the three would be interesting to see.

[almost famous]

Lakers just offered Mike Miller 5/30.

[Nutty Nats Fan]

Ray Allen - Karl might be able to draw him in for the full MLE

LOL, Karl would be the reason Ray Allen would never consider the Nuggets. When Karl coached the Bucks, he ran Ray Allen out of town for an aging Gary Payton if I recall correctly. He was just one of the players on a long list of players Karl likes to crap on. Like JR in Denver.

[MHZ]

I have no clue what some of these teams are doing with their money. Thank God the Nuggets aren't throwing money around at some of these guys.

[The Rebel]

I have no clue what some of these teams are doing with their money. Thank God the Nuggets aren't throwing money around at some of these guys.

Agreed these signings so far as just crazy, most of them will be considered bad contracts in a few months.

[DaFan334]

The Suns need to stop overpaying on bigs we might have been interested in. Killin the market price on bigs. Howd they even sign warrick w/o relinquishing Amare's rights? Are they actually under the cap with his salary holder?

[The Rebel]

The Suns need to stop overpaying on bigs we might have been interested in. Killin the market price on bigs. Howd they even sign warrick w/o relinquishing Amare's rights? Are they actually under the cap with his salary holder?

Deals are not actually signed until the 8th, but they will have to give up Amare's rights.

[J Smitty]

The Suns need to stop overpaying on bigs we might have been interested in. Killin the market price on bigs. Howd they even sign warrick w/o relinquishing Amare's rights? Are they actually under the cap with his salary holder?

I actually like it. We weren't going to win any bidding wars with how many teams have cap space anyway. So might as well have them blow it all by vastly overpaying these few guys, which should leave a pretty decent pool of players to sign for cheap once all the dust settles.

[vitamin-water]

The Suns need to stop overpaying on bigs we might have been interested in. Killin the market price on bigs. Howd they even sign warrick w/o relinquishing Amare's rights? Are they actually under the cap with his salary holder?

Deals are not actually signed until the 8th, but they will have to give up Amare's rights.

well it looks like he might go to new york city..

imagine the fans' excitement.. a great player is actually on their team. not some halfsie.

[Jonbear1981]

Amar'e is going to fit in well in New York, better than he would have here. Well, as long as the injury bug doesn't hit him, we all know what happens when you pay a PF with injury history the max - they just can't stay healthy.
Just put up a list of free agent big man options for the Nuggets on my blog. I'm going to be keep it updated through the offseason.

Here's the link, if you guys want to check it out. http://nugglove.com/2010/07/01/free-age ... big-men/2/

[Jonbear1981]

Joe Smith - Agree with the Malik Allen-type player.
Ray Allen - Allen hates Karl, never going to happen
Tony Allen- Dahntay Jones, part II? He'll get overpaid.
Tyrus Thomas - Restricted- yes, only as a sign and trade.
Brad Miller- yes
Hakim Warrick - definitely not
Zydrunas Ilgauskas- yes only at minimum as one of the last resorts*agreed
Shaq- maybe as a backup center
Brendan Haywood- yeah, but it is never a good idea to overpay for big man.
Kwame Brown - minimum
Ben Wallace- definitely, perfect for our team
Luis Scola - definitely, smart, and underrated.
Rasual Butler- perfect role player
Craig Smith- too small, how tall is he like 6-foot-3, if no other options
D.J. Mbenga- no
Josh Powell- yes, perfect 11th man. And he knows the Lakers.
Ronnie Brewer- yes, not exactly what we need.
Udonis Haslem- yes, perfect role player
Jermaine O'Neal- perfect third big off the bench.
Quentin Richardson- eh, not a fan, but he could help
Kurt Thomas- Malik Allen type, minimum
Josh Boone- minimum, worst case scenario
Bobby Simmons- sure, better version of Graham (at least he can go right and hit jumpers).
Tony Battie- Malik Allen type, minimum
Ike Diogu- yeah, but I think the Hornets picked up his option
Aaron Gray- YES, minimum
Al Harrington - no thanks, ballhog central
Etan Thomas- nope, this dude is done playing. He's coaching now
Matt Barnes- maybe, but might ask for a lot of $ - AGREED
Louis Amundson - LOVE IT, Bring Lou home.
Channing Frye - Signed with the Suns
Juwan Howard- Part III is never going to happen
Ime Udoka- yeah, not a bad role player
Matt Bonner- no, worst case
Roger Mason- maybe
Amir Johnson- re-signed with TO
Kyle Korver- Yes, we need a shooter
Josh Howard- no
Mike Miller - too expensive
Linas Kleiza: no, stay in Euro
Josh Childress: yes
Joel Anthony: yes
Earl Barron: no
flip Murray: maybe
Mikki Moore: yes, as a bench option
Johan Petro: no, he'll be overpaid by somebody
Malik Allen: hell no
NAte robinson: hell no
Shannon Brown: he's going to be too expensive.
ADDED these:
Dorell Wright: Could be a cheap steal
James Jones: Three-point shooter with size
Ryan Gomes: Versatile, do-it all type player
Theo Ratliff: Not a bad vet
Shelden Williams: Minimum option
Travis Outlaw: Not a bad bench player.

[vitamin-water]

Joe Smith - Agree with the Malik Allen-type player.
Ray Allen - Allen hates Karl, never going to happen
Tony Allen- Dahntay Jones, part II? He'll get overpaid.
Tyrus Thomas - Restricted- yes, only as a sign and trade.
Brad Miller- yes
Hakim Warrick - definitely not
Zydrunas Ilgauskas- yes only at minimum as one of the last resorts*agreed
Shaq- maybe as a backup center
Brendan Haywood- yeah, but it is never a good idea to overpay for big man.
Kwame Brown - minimum
Ben Wallace- definitely, perfect for our team
Luis Scola - definitely, smart, and underrated.
Rasual Butler- perfect role player
Craig Smith- too small, how tall is he like 6-foot-3, if no other options
D.J. Mbenga- no
Josh Powell- yes, perfect 11th man. And he knows the Lakers.
Ronnie Brewer- yes, not exactly what we need.
Udonis Haslem- yes, perfect role player
Jermaine O'Neal- perfect third big off the bench.
Quentin Richardson- eh, not a fan, but he could help
Kurt Thomas- Malik Allen type, minimum
Josh Boone- minimum, worst case scenario
Bobby Simmons- sure, better version of Graham (at least he can go right and hit jumpers).
Tony Battie- Malik Allen type, minimum
Ike Diogu- yeah, but I think the Hornets picked up his option
Aaron Gray- YES, minimum
Al Harrington - no thanks, ballhog central
Etan Thomas- nope, this dude is done playing. He's coaching now
Matt Barnes- maybe, but might ask for a lot of $ - AGREED
Louis Amundson - LOVE IT, Bring Lou home.
Channing Frye - Signed with the Suns
Juwan Howard- Part III is never going to happen
Ime Udoka- yeah, not a bad role player
Matt Bonner- no, worst case
Roger Mason- maybe
Amir Johnson- re-signed with TO
Kyle Korver- Yes, we need a shooter
Josh Howard- no
Mike Miller - too expensive
Linas Kleiza: no, stay in Euro
Josh Childress: yes
Joel Anthony: yes
Earl Barron: no
flip Murray: maybe
Mikki Moore: yes, as a bench option
Johan Petro: no, he'll be overpaid by somebody
Malik Allen: hell no
NAte robinson: hell no
Shannon Brown: he's going to be too expensive.
ADDED these:
Dorell Wright: Could be a cheap steal
James Jones: Three-point shooter with size
Ryan Gomes: Versatile, do-it all type player
Theo Ratliff: Not a bad vet
Shelden Williams: Minimum option
Travis Outlaw: Not a bad bench player.

you say no to kleiza, but yes to gomes and childress? have you seen childress play in europe, at all?

kleiza got there the first year and took over that team and led the euroleague in scoring. i don't know what you're thinking here. if we got him back under a good contract, i don't how it's a "no."

and gomes is a copy of kleiza except he was on a **** team where he scored a bit more.

[Jonbear1981]

You are aware that Europe plays a different style of ball than we do in the US and somebody like Kleiza plays better there than a guy like Childress? Childress is more suited for the NBA than Europe.
Not to mention when LK was in Denver he had so many distractions away from the court (bars and women) and it affected his game. The worst thing about Kleiza's game is he has a very fragile psyche. If his shot isn't dropping or calls aren't going his way it gets too him and he starts losing control of his game.
And just because a guy plays on a crappy team doesn't mean he is bad player, Gomes comes in and does what is asked of him, whether it is playing the PF or SF, or if he has to defend Melo he will.

[wang000hk]

I would want Gomes at a good price,but no Childress
I can't stand anymore guys that cant shoot to save their live on this team
Childress isnt any better than Joey Graham

[Exec76]

I have no clue what some of these teams are doing with their money. Thank God the Nuggets aren't throwing money around at some of these guys.

they don't have any cap space

[vitamin-water]

You are aware that Europe plays a different style of ball than we do in the US and somebody like Kleiza plays better there than a guy like Childress? Childress is more suited for the NBA than Europe.
Not to mention when LK was in Denver he had so many distractions away from the court (bars and women) and it affected his game. The worst thing about Kleiza's game is he has a very fragile psyche. If his shot isn't dropping or calls aren't going his way it gets too him and he starts losing control of his game.
And just because a guy plays on a crappy team doesn't mean he is bad player, Gomes comes in and does what is asked of him, whether it is playing the PF or SF, or if he has to defend Melo he will.

so that's a no to watching him play in europe.

i understand what he was like 2 years ago. there are a couple things he's changed during that time, you could realize that if you watched european basketball, read any of the news, etc..

and Gomes... well of course he does what is asked for him to do. it's called a coach-player psyche. if he didn't do it, he wouldn't be playing. i also understand if a player plays on a **** team he's not necessarily bad, but his stats are vague compared to a player in a similar position on a good team like ours. i'm telling you, he's Kleiza's copy.

and if we do get Gomes instead of Kleiza what's the **** point then? we're basically moving back, instead of a guy who knows the players of this team/knows his role/knows the plays, we get a carbon copy who has to learn all that during a season where we want to compete for a championship?

i'd rather keep waiting then for a true power forward. anyway, i stand by my decision LK over Gomes.. or Childress.