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Post#1 » by inquisitive » Sun Aug 29, 2010 5:19 pm

Anyone have the article on where he would go from espn?

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Post#2 » by DaFan334 » Sun Aug 29, 2010 5:42 pm

They've got nothing because the Nugs haven't touched looking into it yet. That's just a Hollinger speculation. Charlotte is listed as interested in a starting point guard. Trading Billups would really hurt ticket sales.
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Post#3 » by Shady08 » Sun Aug 29, 2010 7:08 pm

UPDATE: We checked in with ESPN The Magazine's Ric Bucher about some potential landing spots for Billups if Denver also decides to trade him.

We've attached that commentary to the bottom of this update.

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Carmelo Anthony wants out. The Nuggets want J.R. Smith out. And Kenyon Martin, entering the final year of his lucrative contract, is out while he recovers from knee surgery. In addition, Chris Andersen is expected to miss the beginning of the regular season, too, after offseason surgery.

ESPN.com's John Hollinger made a good point Thursday via his Twitter page regarding Chauncey Billups' future with the Nuggets.

Hollinger tweeted: "Remember, if the Nuggets trade Melo and rebuild, there's really no point in them keeping Billups either. Could be two All-Stars on market."

Billups is from Denver and welcomed the opportunity to play in front of family and friends, but he may seek a trade to a playoff contender, or the team may see what the can get for the veteran point guard since they are in a rebuilding-mode.

Billups, who will turn 34 on Sept. 25, has two years remaining on his contract. He'll make $13.15 million for 2010-11 and $14.2 million for 2011-12, but only $3.7 million of that is guaranteed.

Any teams needing a point guard and who think they can challenge for the NBA title this season should contact the Nuggets.



ESPN The Magazine's Ric Bucher
Billups' leadership could help a number of teams
"Charlotte is in desperate need of a starting point guard and could offer cap relief, a seemingly attractive thing if Denver is starting over. If Golden State is looking to change its lackadaisical culture, Billups could help there, too. The Kings, Nets, Clippers and Grizzlies are relatively young teams that could benefit from his presence, too. But if Billups' dream scenario of riding into the sunset chasing another ring in his hometown has gone poof, the least he'd want is the chance to still chase a ring elsewhere. Teams that would keep the dream alive and have assets to send back are the Rockets, Magic and Hawks."
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Post#4 » by The Rebel » Sun Aug 29, 2010 8:09 pm

I think if chauncey goes to the front office and quietly requested a trade he would be traded, if he don't then I doubt he goes anywhere right now, and maybe not ever.
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Post#5 » by ball teacher » Sun Aug 29, 2010 10:32 pm

How would you guys feel about DJ Augustin, Dampier's dust contract worth 13 million dollars and Boris Diaw from Charlotte for Billups and Nene? You get a young point guard to backup Lawson, a quality Power forward who can start for the injured Kenyon Martin, and you could either keep Dampier and save 13 million.
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Post#6 » by Mef » Sun Aug 29, 2010 10:49 pm

ball teacher wrote:How would you guys feel about DJ Augustin, Dampier's dust contract worth 13 million dollars and Boris Diaw from Charlotte for Billups and Nene? You get a young point guard to backup Lawson, a quality Power forward who can start for the injured Kenyon Martin, and you could either keep Dampier and save 13 million.


I would agree to Billups for Augustin+Dampier+2013 unprotected first round pick

Billups is worth enough on his own, especially for a team that is looking for an all-star caliber veteran PG, trading him and Nenê essentially for Augustin won't happen.
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Post#7 » by inquisitive » Mon Aug 30, 2010 3:04 am

Shady08 wrote:
UPDATE: We checked in with ESPN The Magazine's Ric Bucher about some potential landing spots for Billups if Denver also decides to trade him.

We've attached that commentary to the bottom of this update.

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Carmelo Anthony wants out. The Nuggets want J.R. Smith out. And Kenyon Martin, entering the final year of his lucrative contract, is out while he recovers from knee surgery. In addition, Chris Andersen is expected to miss the beginning of the regular season, too, after offseason surgery.

ESPN.com's John Hollinger made a good point Thursday via his Twitter page regarding Chauncey Billups' future with the Nuggets.

Hollinger tweeted: "Remember, if the Nuggets trade Melo and rebuild, there's really no point in them keeping Billups either. Could be two All-Stars on market."

Billups is from Denver and welcomed the opportunity to play in front of family and friends, but he may seek a trade to a playoff contender, or the team may see what the can get for the veteran point guard since they are in a rebuilding-mode.

Billups, who will turn 34 on Sept. 25, has two years remaining on his contract. He'll make $13.15 million for 2010-11 and $14.2 million for 2011-12, but only $3.7 million of that is guaranteed.

Any teams needing a point guard and who think they can challenge for the NBA title this season should contact the Nuggets.



ESPN The Magazine's Ric Bucher
Billups' leadership could help a number of teams
"Charlotte is in desperate need of a starting point guard and could offer cap relief, a seemingly attractive thing if Denver is starting over. If Golden State is looking to change its lackadaisical culture, Billups could help there, too. The Kings, Nets, Clippers and Grizzlies are relatively young teams that could benefit from his presence, too. But if Billups' dream scenario of riding into the sunset chasing another ring in his hometown has gone poof, the least he'd want is the chance to still chase a ring elsewhere. Teams that would keep the dream alive and have assets to send back are the Rockets, Magic and Hawks."


Thanks. I hope he stays in the West.
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Post#8 » by Spider156 » Mon Aug 30, 2010 3:16 am

Coming from a Piston fan, Billups is very very much overrated and is now a quitter like 06-08 ECF. He did the same thing last season and will do it again. Don't expec any leadership from him if he were to be traded. The best team for him is the Blazers, a well developed team who need more of a scoring threat at the point.
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Post#9 » by ComboGuardCity » Mon Aug 30, 2010 3:21 am

Spider156 wrote:Coming from a Piston fan, Billups is very very much overrated and is now a quitter like 06-08 ECF. He did the same thing last season and will do it again. Don't expec any leadership from him if he were to be traded. The best team for him is the Blazers, a well developed team who need more of a scoring threat at the point.

Chauncey is not a quitter. In fact, he was the only one putting the ball in the bucket. They guy in your sig was the big quitter. Chauncey had just become complacent, just like the entire organization.
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Post#10 » by KAVK » Mon Aug 30, 2010 3:40 am

If we get decent value in return for Melo, we still can contend with Billups leading IMO.

FO may would want to see what they can get for Melo then decide either complete do over or .......?????

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Post#11 » by The Rebel » Mon Aug 30, 2010 1:23 pm

Spider156 wrote:Coming from a Piston fan, Billups is very very much overrated and is now a quitter like 06-08 ECF. He did the same thing last season and will do it again. Don't expec any leadership from him if he were to be traded. The best team for him is the Blazers, a well developed team who need more of a scoring threat at the point.

If Chauncey is so overrated and such a quitter, then why did the Pistons go to hell when they traded him? After trading Chauncey the pistons went from an Eastern conference finals team, to barely making the playoffs, and their win total dropped 20 wins over the season. With the only real change being the Billups deal? that does not scream overrated to me for a guy who many do not feel is a top 5 player at his position.
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Post#12 » by nicbatum » Wed Sep 1, 2010 1:11 am

Blazer fan, here is a portland/denver trade idea would you do it?

Portland Out: Andre Miller, Joel Przybilla, Rudy Fernandez, Jeff Pendergraph or Donte Cunningham
Portland In: Billups, Anderson

Denver Out: Billups and Anderson
Denver In: Andre Miller, Joel Przybilla, Rudy Fernandez, Jeff Pendergraph or Donte Cunningham

Portland does it because they get an upgrade in the PG position and a great defensive blocker

Denver does it because both Miller and Przybilla have expiring contracts, while adding cheap young talent
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Post#13 » by Mef » Wed Sep 1, 2010 1:14 pm

nicbatum wrote:Denver does it because both Miller and Przybilla have expiring contracts, while adding cheap young talent


Talent? Where?

Denver will not trade their players away just to save money.
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Post#14 » by nicbatum » Wed Sep 1, 2010 7:11 pm

billups > miller, przybilla (if healthy) > anderson, rudy is a wimp but has the possibility to be a huge offensive threat, pendergraph is probably trash but Cunningham is legit and will be a good nba player for years to come, he plays good defense and has a nice mid range jump shot. I guess this trade mainly happens if the denver nuggets front office decides to rebuild completely, once melo leaves. Im sure we would add a future 1st round pick also
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Post#15 » by GTO » Thu Sep 2, 2010 9:49 pm

How about something like Billups to Houston for Brooks + Jordan Hill (or Patrick Patterson) + the higher of NYK/HOU 2011 1st round pick + salary fillers J. Jeffries, Mike Harris and Alexander Jonson (the latter two minimum nonguaranteed contracts)?
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Post#16 » by easiestplayfts » Sat Sep 4, 2010 4:55 pm

Spider156 wrote:Coming from a Piston fan, Billups is very very much overrated and is now a quitter like 06-08 ECF. He did the same thing last season and will do it again. Don't expec any leadership from him if he were to be traded. The best team for him is the Blazers, a well developed team who need more of a scoring threat at the point.


This is coming from a Piston's fan and I have been a fan since 1985 (the bad boys era)......The 2003-2008 Pistons actually over-achieved including Billups because nobody thought the lowly Pistons could beat the 2004 star-studded Lakers then return to the finals in 2005. The only reason the Pistons didn't win the 2005 championship against the Spurs was because of Rasheed's missed assignment in game 5 against Robert Horry. Then they went to the conference finals 4 years in a row.
I love Billups but he is an all-star not a superstar and thats how Joe Dumars built a great team with 5 all-stars and no superstars. People who say Billups is overrated are the ones who are overrating him.

Anyway Chauncey was beloved in Detroit. Here is Chauncey's return to the Palace compared to Rasheed's (the guy in your avatar) return....although I don't think Rasheed should have been booed. Because they both played for the Pistons 6 years.



Rasheed's return starts at 0:40
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgReUZEE2Ng[/youtube]

Chauncey's return starts at 0:32
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YlHmJdnI6M[/youtube]
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Post#17 » by piston1423 » Sun Sep 5, 2010 12:33 am

easiestplayfts wrote:
Spider156 wrote:Coming from a Piston fan, Billups is very very much overrated and is now a quitter like 06-08 ECF. He did the same thing last season and will do it again. Don't expec any leadership from him if he were to be traded. The best team for him is the Blazers, a well developed team who need more of a scoring threat at the point.


This is coming from a Piston's fan and I have been a fan since 1985 (the bad boys era)......The 2003-2008 Pistons actually over-achieved including Billups because nobody thought the lowly Pistons could beat the 2004 star-studded Lakers then return to the finals in 2005. The only reason the Pistons didn't win the 2005 championship against the Spurs was because of Rasheed's missed assignment in game 5 against Robert Horry. Then they went to the conference finals 4 years in a row.
I love Billups but he is an all-star not a superstar and thats how Joe Dumars built a great team with 5 all-stars and no superstars. People who say Billups is overrated are the ones who are overrating him.

Anyway Chauncey was beloved in Detroit. Here is Chauncey's return to the Palace compared to Rasheed's (the guy in your avatar) return....although I don't think Rasheed should have been booed. Because they both played for the Pistons 6 years.



Rasheed's return starts at 0:40
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgReUZEE2Ng[/youtube]

Chauncey's return starts at 0:32
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YlHmJdnI6M[/youtube]


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Post#18 » by easiestplayfts » Sun Sep 5, 2010 3:06 am

piston1423 wrote:
The fans were not booing Sheed, they were saying "Shhheeedd" Like they always did.


Direct qoute from the article:
Wallace was greeted with cheers and boos during player introductions. Kuester said Wallace deserved to be praised by Pistons fans
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Post#19 » by red96 » Wed Sep 8, 2010 4:19 pm

GTO wrote:How about something like Billups to Houston for Brooks + Jordan Hill (or Patrick Patterson) + the higher of NYK/HOU 2011 1st round pick + salary fillers J. Jeffries, Mike Harris and Alexander Jonson (the latter two minimum nonguaranteed contracts)?
I have the upmost respect for Billups, but as a rockets fan I dont see where Billups (alone) would get us. Not saying the value is terrible but it would be an extremely short sighted move and it still doesn't make HOU a contender. I do fill that Brooks(who's good and still getting better)+ a lottery pick player(Hill or Patterson)+ our 2011 HOU/NYK (potential lottery)pick is more than what i'd be willing to give for 34 year old Billups. I know he just came off a good year but still, I doubt he recreates last years production. And this move really handcuffs any other potential moves we could possibly do. For example, I'd rather wait for a Iggy type player at the deadline and I think HOU would be a better team for it.
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Post#20 » by MilBucksBackOnTop06 » Fri Sep 10, 2010 7:13 am

I am still trying to get over the fact that Joakim Noah is being talked about in the same breathe as one Carmelo Anthony!?
WTF is that!? Is Denver's new GM that damn stupid or have the Bulls hyped Noah up that much that they think he is worth him?
I know they are not trading or thinking of trading them straight up, but the Nuggets don't want to take on Luol Deng's deal but yet won't look at the good players and good contracts on the Bucks!
You nuts. The Nets or Bucks have a better group of players then the Bulls do if you don't want to take on much money knucklehead!
Mbah a Moute, Ersan Ilyasova, Redd's expiring and perhaps a pick of Delfino, Maggette or even CDR would get it done right there for perhaps Melo and J.R Smith.
Let me go check the trade checker...but if you are going to rebuild if you move Melo anyhow, that is a good start on your frontline!
Denver new GM is clueless. What difference is Milwaukee from Chicago? Trade him where you can get the best deal.
If you are too dumb to not want Ilyasova who is 23 and Mbah who is still young and growing and a guy like CDR to begin a rebuild for a 27-28 year old Melo who is going to leave there anyways then you are a fool.
Maybe Chauncey Billups would be a better GM then this guy in Denver! Fine, then we will just keep them.

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