Ny looking to get back wilson......

jcwkings · Post #1 » by **jcwkings** » Wed Apr 27, 2011 4:44 pm

If ny really wants to get wilson back , i would trade him for landry fields. Maybe even trade felton for toney douglas and a 1st round pick. I guess it would help us save some money. we wouldnt have to resign j.r.

eathb_au · Post #2 » by **eathb_au** » Wed Apr 27, 2011 5:31 pm

Would do it if they take Harrington. NY would have to send us Billups for salaries to match...

Post #3 » by **The Rebel** » Wed Apr 27, 2011 7:05 pm

I would not trade Harrington and Chandler for Billups, unless they can find a way to include real assets in the deal, which I don't see happening, considering they have no real assets left to trade.

Powder Blue · Post #4 » by **Powder Blue** » Wed Apr 27, 2011 7:49 pm

Source?? Not sure they could afford him after giving Billups 14 mil for next year.

Post #5 » by **el loco** » Wed Apr 27, 2011 10:29 pm

He is a RFA, so even if they offer him MLE type money, I can see the Nuggets matching that. Plus, he doesn't exactly play a position that they need a lot of help at. We have seen how he does when he plays the 2 spot and it ain't pretty. The Knicks have the 3 and 4 spots locked up, so where is he supposed to get his minutes? I don't see it happening.

Post #6 » by **The Rebel** » Thu Apr 28, 2011 1:23 am

Powder Blue wrote:Source?? Not sure they could afford him after giving Billups 14 mil for next year.

http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/knicks/c ... z1Khl3tiU7

eathb_au · Post #7 » by **eathb_au** » Thu Apr 28, 2011 1:30 am

The Rebel wrote:I would not trade Harrington and Chandler for Billups, unless they can find a way to include real assets in the deal, which I don't see happening, considering they have no real assets left to trade.

Was. Referring to OP including Fields as well.

almost famous · Post #8 » by **almost famous** » Thu Apr 28, 2011 8:24 am

I have no interests in Fields. The guy is a baller, but his ceiling looks pretty low. He would just be another Forbes.

WC's versatility is a hard thing to find. The guy would thrive if we can get another pure scorer.

I'm sure the Nuggets recognize his value, despite his horrid offense in the playoffs. If the Knicks want him, they will have to overpay him, which is something I don't think they're willing to do. They have a lot of holes to fill, and not a lot of money to fill them with. WC shouldn't be a priority.

eathb_au · Post #9 » by **eathb_au** » Thu Apr 28, 2011 8:35 am

I see Fields as another Afflalo.

almost famous · Post #10 » by **almost famous** » Thu Apr 28, 2011 8:53 am

Afflalo? I don't see the comparison, but to each his own, I suppose.

Post #11 » by **The Rebel** » Thu Apr 28, 2011 2:00 pm

I am not really a fields fan, he is a solid player, but has I don't think he is any better then Forbes at this point, and may never be more then a decent role player.

NoMoreThrees · Post #12 » by **NoMoreThrees** » Thu Apr 28, 2011 2:09 pm

Chandler can't be traded back to the Knicks until late February 2012. Players have to go a full year after a trade before they can be traded back to the same team. Knicks can only offer Chandler the MLE if it's there and Denver would absolutely match either to keep him or trade him. Chandler would be foolish to sign an MLE offer sheet anyway. So there's no way he ends up back with the Knicks. Then there is the fact he isn't a SG and the Knicks have a PF and SF and Chandler's supposed salary would not be one you want off the bench. Then finally the guy just isn't all that good of a player anyway. You put it together and there's no way or reason why Chandler would end up back a Knick. Regardless the Knicks can't under league rules and didn't get quoted speaking about wanting Chandler back. The NY Post made it up for the hell of it. Lastly Denver needs to do what the Knicks would have had to do. You choose one of Chandler or Gallo and move the other player. These two guys cancel each other out somehow.

Post #13 » by **The Rebel** » Thu Apr 28, 2011 2:42 pm

NoMoreThrees wrote:Chandler can't be traded back to the Knicks until late February 2012. Players have to go a full year after a trade before they can be traded back to the same team. Knicks can only offer Chandler the MLE if it's there and Denver would absolutely match either to keep him or trade him. Chandler would be foolish to sign an MLE offer sheet anyway. So there's no way he ends up back with the Knicks. Then there is the fact he isn't a SG and the Knicks have a PF and SF and Chandler's supposed salary would not be one you want off the bench. Then finally the guy just isn't all that good of a player anyway. You put it together and there's no way or reason why Chandler would end up back a Knick. Regardless the Knicks can't under league rules and didn't get quoted speaking about wanting Chandler back. The NY Post made it up for the hell of it. Lastly Denver needs to do what the Knicks would have had to do. You choose one of Chandler or Gallo and move the other player. These two guys cancel each other out somehow.

I use to think that a team cannot reacquire a player for a full year, but it is a league season, meaning the July 1st the Knicks could reacquire Chandler.
http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm#Q88

Larry Coon wrote:A team cannot reacquire a player they traded away during that season (a season being July 1 - June 30) unless the player has been waived. Note: this does not apply to draft picks. If a team trades a player's draft rights, they can reacquire the player during the same season.

I agree a team does not need both of them, as both are good enough to get 30+ mpg when healthy, but are not good enough at other positions to justify playing them both together.

eathb_au · Post #14 » by **eathb_au** » Thu Apr 28, 2011 5:07 pm

Actually I take back what I said about Fields... we're much better keeping Chandler. I'm told Fields is a horrible man-to-man defender, which is why they supposedly want WC back because he can actually play defense.

Post #15 » by **The Rebel** » Thu Apr 28, 2011 5:14 pm

http://mobile.newsday.com/inf/infomo;JS ... nopaging=1

Looks like they are finally starting to figure out that the nuggets did not want to pay Chauncey and are not going to just reverse the trade just to make New Yorkers happy.

jcwkings · Post #16 » by **jcwkings** » Thu Apr 28, 2011 5:30 pm

i don't get why he would even want to go back..... they traded him, the team that supposedly wanted to resign him traded him. if i were him i would be pissed.

eathb_au · Post #17 » by **eathb_au** » Thu Apr 28, 2011 5:34 pm

I would be open to doing a Felton + Harrington for Billups swap and having him back as a 20 mpg backup to Ty.

jcwkings · Post #18 » by **jcwkings** » Thu Apr 28, 2011 5:48 pm

no way, knowing george karl he would probably start chauncey and play them together all the time. just trade felton for a true back up pg and a pick or another player.

Post #19 » by **el loco** » Fri Apr 29, 2011 9:33 pm

eathb_au wrote:I would be open to doing a Felton + Harrington for Billups swap and having him back as a 20 mpg backup to Ty.

I wouldn't. I like Billups a lot, but he doesn't fit with a young team that likes to push the pace and get out in transition.

As for Chandler it sounds like Ujiri wants to bring him back, and even though he struggled offensively in the playoffs and his last defensive play of the season was bad, he was still a solid defender for the most part, and GK likes him, so I look for the Nuggets to try to bring him back. It wouldn't bother me a bit if they do because I think JR and Kmart are gone.

koogiking · Post #20 » by **koogiking** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 6:37 pm

eathb_au wrote:Actually I take back what I said about Fields... we're much better keeping Chandler. I'm told Fields is a horrible man-to-man defender, which is why they supposedly want WC back because he can actually play defense.

Knicks fans on the Knicks board called Chandler a bad man to man defender and said that Gallo was better. They don't know what they are talking about.