Warriors-Nuggets talking Ellis for Nene trade

[Little Digger]

The Warriors are on the hunt to add a difference maker via a trade. Multiple sources confirm they have talked to Memphis about Rudy Gay, Philadelphia about Andre Iguodala, Chicago about Luol Deng and Denver about Nene.

http://www.mercurynews.com/warriors/ci_ ... ck_check=1

[el loco]

The Warriors are on the hunt to add a difference maker via a trade. Multiple sources confirm they have talked to Memphis about Rudy Gay, Philadelphia about Andre Iguodala, Chicago about Luol Deng and Denver about Nene.

http://www.mercurynews.com/warriors/ci_ ... ck_check=1

I doubt if there is much truth to that rumor because just in the past couple of days the Nuggets and Nene have been in serious talks about extending him, so he can finish out his career in Denver. Plus, GK wants him back and has been one of the biggest supporters in trying to get him to come back. Anything is possible though, but I will believe it when I see it.

[The Rebel]

Sounds to me like the Warriors are calling every team around the league and throwing offers of Ellis for whatever they like, hoping one team is willing to take something. Offers are made daily, does not mean they are considered by the other team.

[clockwork]

i'd be crushed if nene left.

we'd never accept though, more scoring on a team where anybody can go off for 30 a night? no thanks.

[RRFB]

I think a Nene/Felton for Ellis/Biedrins trade would be interesting. Let Jr (and maybe even Chandler) walk and use whatever cap space is left or a trade exception to get the best big man they can. I'm not saying I'd do it, but I think this could be a decent team that would be a lot fun to watch:

Lawson / Monta
Monta / Afflalo
Gallinari / Chandler
Biedrins / Harrington / #22 pick or TE
Mozgov / Birdman / Koufos

[eathb_au]

I think a Nene/Felton for Ellis/Biedrins trade would be interesting. Let Jr (and maybe even Chandler) walk and use whatever cap space is left or a trade exception to get the best big man they can. I'm not saying I'd do it, but I think this could be a decent team that would be a lot fun to watch:

Lawson / Monta
Monta / Afflalo
Gallinari / Chandler
Biedrins / Harrington / #22 pick or TE
Mozgov / Birdman / Koufos

eh I think our current team is better:

Lawson / Felton
Afflalo / JR
Gallo / Chandler
Nene / Harrington
Mozgov / Bird

[The Rebel]

Not a big fan of Ellis at all, and with the rumors of Beidrins openly talking about walking away from basketball several times last year i would stay away from him as well.

[DaFan334]

Doubtful anything happens with this rumor... Maybe David Lee and Monta for Nene and Felton is more realistic. Doubtful though.

[berserker]

I hate the idea of Nene leaving Denver. And I doubt it will happen. In this scenario, I think GSW has to include Ekpe Udoh in the trade. Young defensive big with a lot of potential and actually some decent post moves (I watch the W's a lot, since I live in the Bay Area). I think Felton can still be moved for a decent young big as well, and we follow the blueprint of the Thunder. Young, defensive minded, good shooters, and willing to play team ball.

Back to the trade - I can't see us trading a big for a small with no defensive skills. I've met Monta, he's a great guy but while I love his ability to score, I'd frankly rather keep JR - he's learned to play much better on the defensive end. Monta, however, is a tireless worker and not riding scooters in violation....but that's another rant.

Monta is Iverson 2.0, which is not a bad thing - but doesn't fit our team's current style. We have our penetrating, distributing, 3 pt shooter in Lawson, and I don't see a backcourt of Lawson/Ellis being able to defend bigger teams in the playoffs when the tempo is slowed.

I don't see any way this happens unless we can turn Monta/Mozgov/Chandler into Dwight Howard. Then, resign Kmart for a decent salary and the rest of our F/A's.

Lawson/Afflalo/Gallinari/Udoh/Howard, with Felton, JR, Harrington/Forbes, Kmart/Harrington, Birdman/Koufos on the bench. Sign me up for this trade...

[almost famous]

I'm sure every team in the league has talked to Denver about Nene. Who cares?

And as Clock added, we really don't need another scorer. I love watching the guy, but I would hate watching him in a Nuggets jersey.

[The Rebel]

http://blogs.mercurynews.com/kawakami/2 ... g-a-trade/

Other teams mentioned–whether it’s the Warriors contacting them or these teams contacting the Warriors–are Portland, Memphis, Charlotte, Denver and the Lakers.

I would put Denver and the Lakers at the remotest end of possibilities.

Denver is not looking to sign-and-trade Nene and two NBA sources say that the Nuggets, who already have an abundance of small guards, are not interested in Ellis.

I personally am glad it is all just a rumor, as I really did not want to trade Nene, especially for another undersized SG.

[old rem]

Sounds to me like the Warriors are calling every team around the league and throwing offers of Ellis for whatever they like, hoping one team is willing to take something. Offers are made daily, does not mean they are considered by the other team.

Not quite.

when the phone rings, GSW listens. GSW's owner,GM, coach...said they like Monta,and MOST important...Old Rem likes Monta.

GSW is hooked up for $9 mill per on Biedrins coached well...and at similar $...coached well...the overall worth is similar with Beans>>>>rebounds,Nene>>>scoring.

I ASSUME that if GSW gives up on Biedrins...they get nothing for him. So...the cost of replacing Ellis and 24 ppg? Huh? Well...GSW would have a tough time replacing him. Whaddya do...trade EVERYBODY ELSE for E Gordon?

[old rem]

Not a big fan of Ellis at all, and with the rumors of Beidrins openly talking about walking away from basketball several times last year i would stay away from him as well.

Once Biedrins did say he could see retiring at 30. He never did restate that as a firm plan. GSW's stated intent is to restore Biedrins to the player he was...11pt,11 reb....which works for me.

So far the owner,GM and coach have all said they are NOT shopping Ellis but do listen to offers. Obviously if it's Denver on the phone it's gonna turn into...Nene (signed)

I would turn down Nene + Felton for Ellis and Biedrins at this time. The Warriors might feel otherwise.
I like Felton, but neither Felton nor Curry works as a SG...so GSW would need a follow up trade.
That Ellis is damn good at either G spot is a big reason why I'd probably NOT trade him


Worth note....it's almost a moot point to get detailed in discussing details of a trade for Nene when
you have not come to terms about the matter of ..HE'S A FREE AGENT and needs to WANT to sign.

Okay kids....till all those IMPORTANT and MULTIMILLION DOLLAR details are set....it ain't an "offer"

Some Blog dude purports to be the ONE GUY all the teams reveal their secrets to...not ESPN, Not the guy who travels with the team...some guy on the Net.

Worm on the hook....................who bit?

[old rem]

Doubtful anything happens with this rumor... Maybe David Lee and Monta for Nene and Felton is more realistic. Doubtful though.

Again....Nene would have to comply with a contract GSW likes. While I like Felton...it would logically be Afflalo and ?....as Curry would be the GSW PG.
GSW loses rebounding and a lot of scoring but gets more D. Probably not...but a decent idea.

Obviously.......Nene and Denver have not even decided what to do so there was no " offer" as such.
You don't Whip out the cash to buy a car when you don't know if the guy is the owner..or the car has an engine.........

Some unknown blogger claims GSW is making offers on Nene,Dwight and others...yet....the real GM's do this S**T in sequence as in Nene or Dwight WANTS to move and WILL sign for a specific amount and team B is ready to trade NOW rather than wait.

It don't happen like that unless it is FAKE.

[el loco]

^^^How do you figure they lose rebounding? Nene has put up better rebounding numbers then Beans has for a few years in a row now, not to mention, he is better in FG%, FT% (he can actually make one), blocks, steals, assists, minutes, he can stay out of foul trouble. Basically he does everything better then Beans does, and he plays more games.

[eathb_au]

He's been saying for years now that Biedrins is/was better than Nene.

[The Rebel]

LOL, if you read Rems posts you will find that he trully believes the Warriors are one good coach away from a dynasty with all the talent they have. He has been that way for years, unfortunately it has never shown up in the standings.

[old rem]

LOL, if you read Rems posts you will find that he trully believes the Warriors are one good coach away from a dynasty with all the talent they have. He has been that way for years, unfortunately it has never shown up in the standings.

I said contender...not dynasty. It takes luck and timing to go from contender to the top and takes great management to go from there to dynasty.

Since a year ago, Larry Riley traded half the team...turning a handful of starters into nothing.
That sets GSW back a lot. Now? A good coach could get them in the playoffs but it will take a few years and some good moves to ever reach contender. They blew it.

Nene is gonna be an FA. I'm not sure GSW is where he wants to go since minus Ellis it ain't a better team. I'm not sure GSW wants to pay his price when for less they can just rehab Biedrins and keep Ellis.
Ellis and Lawson would be blazing fast but Lawson is a lot smaller than Curry. Unlikely deal.

[old rem]

^^^How do you figure they lose rebounding? Nene has put up better rebounding numbers then Beans has for a few years in a row now, not to mention, he is better in FG%, FT% (he can actually make one), blocks, steals, assists, minutes, he can stay out of foul trouble. Basically he does everything better then Beans does, and he plays more games.

Nene played about 35 min to 24 for Biedrins. He outboarded Beans,per game...by a hair,but NOT per minute. Typically Nene got about 7.5 boards in 32-35 min. Before being injured or jerked around by Ex Coach smart, Biedrins was typically 10-11 reb in 30 min, among NBA leaders. Nene scores better,shoots more,but definitely is not more than average as a rebounder.

Smart used a lot of gimmick D and pulled the bigs away from the rim,so while GSW had TWO guys on the team (if not on the floor) who HAVE had an 11+ rebound season....GSW got out boarded.

Smart got the axe mostly because he misused the big men even worse than Nellie had.