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Could we put Gallo at the 4?

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Could we put Gallo at the 4? 

Post#1 » by jcwkings » Sat Jun 18, 2011 7:35 am

I mean it is definitely an interesting thought. He has the size, maybe not the strength yet, but if he focuses on working out during the summer and getting bigger then i don't see the problem. he would be a nightmare to guard for just about any power forward. and defensively is something he could work to improve. Also this would open up the starting 3 spot for chandler and we could keep him happy here. I doubt chandler wants to stay here and continue to come off the bench.

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Afflalo/?
Chandler/Harrington
Gallo/Faried
Nene/Mozgov/Anderson/koufos

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Lawson/Felton
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Nene/Faried/harrington
Mozgov/Anderson/Koufos


and looking at these line ups we have have to try to move birdman and harrington for a shooting guard or a pg.
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Re: Could we put Gallo at the 4? 

Post#2 » by KAVK » Sat Jun 18, 2011 10:57 am

Gallo was doing fairly well defensively at 4 when he was put in last season. I believe he has a toughness to handle 4. Honestly i really would like to keep Chandler. Think about the spacing down low for Nene with Gallo 4, Chandler 3, AAA 2, Ty 1.

As for the Andersen & Harrington if we /crossing my fingers and binding it together rest of the way/ end up with Faired in the draft, i would prefer to keep Bird over Al.

I feel there will be some shuffling around this draft. Really hope our FO use their chips right.
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Re: Could we put Gallo at the 4? 

Post#3 » by The Rebel » Sat Jun 18, 2011 12:06 pm

Gallo is no where near good enough at rebounding to be a PF more then short spurts.
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Re: Could we put Gallo at the 4? 

Post#4 » by Aeternus » Sat Jun 18, 2011 4:19 pm

Gallo should play PF in spurt or depending on the match-up. He's def not strong enough to contain the bulkier PF, although he may create a mismatch on O with his deceptive quickness.
However, the Nuggets would lose his perimeter D, which is much better than Chandler's, and furthermore both Gallo & Chandler play considerably worse when the other is on the court. Years on the Knicks showed (shown?) that. If I am the Nuggets front office, I trade Chandler away for another piece, let Gallo develop at the 3, put Nene at the 4, and draft or trade for someone to fill the gap at the 5, or use Mozgov.
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Re: Could we put Gallo at the 4? 

Post#5 » by DaFan334 » Sun Jun 19, 2011 3:17 pm

He has more of an advantage with his size against 3s but his range could help spread the floor against 4s. I would still rather have a lengthier team with him at the 3.
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Re: Could we put Gallo at the 4? 

Post#6 » by cgf » Sun Jun 19, 2011 4:28 pm

I actually think Chandler's more ready to play the 4 right now than Gallo, simply because Chandler has a hard time staying in front of his man on the perimeter with good instincts for weakside blocks while Gallo is incredibly tough to get around on the perimeter and still can get muscled around down low. Chandler's a strong dude, he might be a little short but with his strength and midrange game Chandler should be a stretch 4.
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Re: Could we put Gallo at the 4? 

Post#7 » by Aeternus » Tue Jun 21, 2011 2:35 pm

^^^ D'Antoni tried that already, didn't work that well. While he gave good weakside help, he got pushed around quite a bit in the post, and his rebounding wasn't close to average starting PF level.
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Post#8 » by bernadotte » Tue Jun 21, 2011 9:46 pm

The gallo at the PF could a good player but at the SF could be a super player.
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Re: Could we put Gallo at the 4? 

Post#9 » by cgf » Wed Jun 22, 2011 6:17 am

Aeternus wrote:^^^ D'Antoni tried that already, didn't work that well. While he gave good weakside help, he got pushed around quite a bit in the post, and his rebounding wasn't close to average starting PF level.


Actually worked pretty well given we had Amar'e and not Nene/Mozgove/Birdman at C. Will's a strong kid, sure some matchups he just can't hold up, but against a lot of NBA 4s he's got the strength to hold up in the post. I just feel like his lack of lateral agility on the perimeter and consistency with his 3 make him a worse fit at the 3 than he is at the 4.

Plus Gallo's more of a slasher/playmaker who you want attacking from the perimeter with his craftiness and ability to draw defenders too tight on him whereas guys start to hang off of Will when he spends too much time behind the arc.
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Re: Could we put Gallo at the 4? 

Post#10 » by koogiking » Thu Jun 23, 2011 12:55 pm

Wilson Chandler would be better at the 4. He's stronger and is a better rebounder. Gallo would get pushed around more than Chandler. Plus he'll give a better speed and quickness advantage over power forwards than Gallo. Gallo would only provide a tiny bit more floor spacing, but both guys are similar 3 point shooters so it doesn't really matter.

Knicks won the most games with a line up with Chandler at power forward.
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Post#11 » by Paladin55 » Sat Jun 25, 2011 4:01 pm

I thought he would eventually be a 4 for the Knicks when he was here.

He looked bigger by the end of last season. If you really watch him play you realize that he can handle the pushing down low, and he has good footwork for a big man, as well as a pretty decent wingspan.

If he plays PF he will be getting more rebounds. He is decent at boxing out, and will have more opportunities to rebound guarding PFs.

His biggest issue is that his post game is so-so, at best, and you still get a bit worried when he's down low with his back to the basket against a man his size.

He has to burn a lot of energy guarding 3s, and that hurts his offensive game. You guys should be thinking of him a Dirk-like PF at this point.
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Re: Could we put Gallo at the 4? 

Post#12 » by Toxicity » Tue Jun 28, 2011 4:01 pm

Gallo will see a lot of minutes at the 4 in the European Championships next august... in Italian NT we don't have a realiable center so in the end Bargnani will play the five and probably Danilo the 4 spot. We'll see how it works.
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Post#13 » by cgf » Mon Jul 4, 2011 4:56 pm

Paladin55 wrote:I thought he would eventually be a 4 for the Knicks when he was here.

He looked bigger by the end of last season. If you really watch him play you realize that he can handle the pushing down low, and he has good footwork for a big man, as well as a pretty decent wingspan.

If he plays PF he will be getting more rebounds. He is decent at boxing out, and will have more opportunities to rebound guarding PFs.

His biggest issue is that his post game is so-so, at best, and you still get a bit worried when he's down low with his back to the basket against a man his size.

He has to burn a lot of energy guarding 3s, and that hurts his offensive game. You guys should be thinking of him a Dirk-like PF at this point.


I agree that eventually Gallo will become a 4. But right now his D is much superior on the perimeter as stronger players can't just back him down from behind the arc and he can use his length advantage and intelligence to bother even freaks like LeBron into inefficient games.
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Re: Could we put Gallo at the 4? 

Post#14 » by truth serum » Sat Aug 13, 2011 9:47 pm

I miss Gallo. I hope he breaks out this year. I always thought he was going to be a legit PF and an all-star caliber player regardless of position. Time will tell...
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Re: Could we put Gallo at the 4? 

Post#15 » by Gallo88 » Tue Aug 16, 2011 2:57 pm

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SovNrLD9eA&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]
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Post#16 » by Aeternus » Tue Aug 16, 2011 6:19 pm

Gallo88 wrote:[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SovNrLD9eA&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]
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The most impressive stat you haven't told: 11 fouls drawn. He put the whole opposite front court in foul trouble by himself, and has shown some definite improvement on his finishing by the rim after the foul, an area of relative concern during his Knicks time. With all the fouls he draws, learning to finish through the contact will give him a considerable scoring boost.
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Re: Could we put Gallo at the 4? 

Post#17 » by Leeroy Jenkins » Thu Aug 18, 2011 4:37 am

Aeternus wrote:
Gallo88 wrote:[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SovNrLD9eA&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]
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The most impressive stat you haven't told: 11 fouls drawn. He put the whole opposite front court in foul trouble by himself, and has shown some definite improvement on his finishing by the rim after the foul, an area of relative concern during his Knicks time. With all the fouls he draws, learning to finish through the contact will give him a considerable scoring boost.


We used to call him the floppy cock here in NY. It's ridiculous how many fouls he draws. G-whistle for real.
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Re: Could we put Gallo at the 4? 

Post#18 » by patrol345 » Thu Aug 18, 2011 7:05 am

If nene does leave I think it would be the smart thing to do to put gallo at the 4, and sign a marc gasol or deandre jordan who will hit the boards hard and do the shot blocking that gallo wont but gallo will give you the scoring that you need from that inside, sorta like dirk at pf I guess. U cant count on Faried to be your starting pf so gallo might as well be. I would think a lineup of ty/aa/chandler/gallo/gasol orJordan would be better and more offensive efficient than a faried/mozgov front court. I think gallo/chandler in ny failed because they didnt have that shotblocker/rebounder that gallo needs to be next too.
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Re: Could we put Gallo at the 4? 

Post#19 » by Aeternus » Thu Aug 18, 2011 3:12 pm

patrol345 wrote:If nene does leave I think it would be the smart thing to do to put gallo at the 4, and sign a marc gasol or deandre jordan who will hit the boards hard and do the shot blocking that gallo wont but gallo will give you the scoring that you need from that inside, sorta like dirk at pf I guess. U cant count on Faried to be your starting pf so gallo might as well be. I would think a lineup of ty/aa/chandler/gallo/gasol orJordan would be better and more offensive efficient than a faried/mozgov front court. I think gallo/chandler in ny failed because they didnt have that shotblocker/rebounder that gallo needs to be next too.


Well, if you're going to start Gallo and Chandler together like in NY, you may as well play them respectively 3 & 4 like MDA did, because Gallo is the much better perimeter defender, Will is a better shotblocker, and they're also pretty equal rebounders, at 10.1 to 9,4 total rebound rate.

For Gallo to transition to PF, I see him needing to improve considerably his strength and rebounding. He's showing nice improvements on both sides of the post in these pre-tournament friendlies, so maybe the coaching staff is considering the transition.
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Re: Could we put Gallo at the 4? 

Post#20 » by PeTBuLL » Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:46 pm

Gallo88 wrote:[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SovNrLD9eA&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]
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