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Post#1 » by Powder Blue » Fri Jun 24, 2011 3:34 am

The Nuggets selected forward Kenneth Faried, the big rebounder from Morehead State, with the 22nd pick of the NBA draft Thursday night, then made a big trade.
Two NBA sources confirmed Denver traded point guard Raymond Felton to Portland for Andre Miller, in addition to a future second-rounder and the 26th pick in Thursday's draft. That 26th pick was acquired by Portland from Dallas, which selected Texas forward Jordan Hamilton, who now is headed to the Mile High City. Portland traded guard Rudy Fernandez to the Mavericks in the deal.


Read more: Nuggets draft Kenneth Faried then complete trade for Andre Miller and Jordan Hamilton - The Denver Post http://www.denverpost.com/sports/ci_183 ... z1QA1PztPt
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I think bringing back Dre was a good move. I'm not so sure Ty/Dre is better than Ty/Ray but time will tell. I can't see Dre being as much of a distraction as Ray was going to be had he stay. If anything at least we didn't trade for the other dude in the picture!

Said after Portland got Miller...
"For me, Andre is a wonderful point guard. I am a huge Andre Miller fan," Karl said. "I think he is a top 7 point guard in the league, and has been for many years. He is quiet and doesn't get the recognition that he deserves. I think he will be better the more familiar he gets with these players and the more familiar he gets with their offense."

When Karl became the head coach in Denver, it was Miller who helped make the transition easier for both Karl and the team.

"I have always joked that when I came to Denver in the middle of the season, my name was the head coach, but Andre Miller really coached the team for about two weeks. He called the plays. He would call plays, and I would go 'what's that?'. He knew the playbook and he knew the concepts. We ran one play tonight for Chauncey, and we called it in the 4th quarter, and he (Andre) knew it. Our guys don't even know the play and he knew it. So that's the type of quarterback and leader you have."



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Shooting a third ranked 61.2% in half court situations, Faried was a dominant figure in the OVC, and showed well against top competition too. He earned a top-ranked 23% of his possessions on the offensive glass, converting 70.2% of the put-backs (2nd). Despite his relentless hustle, Faried actually saw the majority of his touches in one-on-one situations in the post (40%). Shooting 52.4% in those situations (4th), Faried's aggressiveness and toughness made him an imposing offensive presence at the college level despite his lack of advanced scoring-moves.

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The NBA coach whose team ends up picking him will likely need to accept that he's going to take some bad shots every night, some of which will go in. Not having to worry about playing time and knowing that he'll have plenty of plays called for him all game long, he's gotten a little more unselfish this year and has seen his assist rate rise and turnover rate drop. He still has a tendency to hunt shots, though, as there are certain moments of the game in which Texas' offense will get stuck and he'll feel the need to be a hero and win games all by himself.


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Post#2 » by dis4ryan » Fri Jun 24, 2011 3:41 am

Nuggets trade Andre Miller for Iverson for Billups for Felton for Miller :clap:
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Post#3 » by eathb_au » Fri Jun 24, 2011 4:08 am

We reportedly traded a 2nd for Chukwudiebere Maduabum
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Post#4 » by el loco » Fri Jun 24, 2011 4:10 am

eathb_au wrote:We reportedly traded a 2nd for Chukwudiebere Maduabum


Ujiri's homie :lol:
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Post#5 » by Jbeebs » Fri Jun 24, 2011 4:21 am

Can I take a second and thank Masai. We did great and got exactly who we wanted and a guy with some serious upside in Hamilton. Ty Lawson has his team and Dre will be a good mentor and knows GK. I'm happy all around tonight.

Faried is the best possible player for this team other than maybe Biyombo in this year's class
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Post#6 » by Powder Blue » Fri Jun 24, 2011 4:36 am

Easily the biggest draft night for Denver since ole #15 came our way. Faried and Hamilton are both projects. I see Fariad playing a little more right off the bat based on his hustle. A team that already has lots of decisions to make this off-season just made the roster even more of a cluster F**k.

Try sorting this out....

Lawson/Miller
Affalo/Smith/Forbes
Gallo/Chandler/Hamilton
Martin/Harrington/Faried
Nene/Anderson/Moz/Koufos

I'm not even counting Ely, Hakuna Matata (assuming we did trade for him) and outside free agents.
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Post#7 » by DaVoiceMaster » Fri Jun 24, 2011 5:15 am

Does Denver intend to keep Miller or will they not pick up his option and save $7+ million?
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Post#8 » by el loco » Fri Jun 24, 2011 5:19 am

DaVoiceMaster wrote:Does Denver intend to keep Miller or will they not pick up his option and save $7+ million?


The Nuggets beat writer tweeted that the Nuggets plan on keeping Miller.

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Post#9 » by Effigy » Fri Jun 24, 2011 7:12 am

Powder Blue wrote:
The Nuggets selected forward Kenneth Faried, the big rebounder from Morehead State, with the 22nd pick of the NBA draft Thursday night, then made a big trade.
Two NBA sources confirmed Denver traded point guard Raymond Felton to Portland for Andre Miller, in addition to a future second-rounder and the 26th pick in Thursday's draft. That 26th pick was acquired by Portland from Dallas, which selected Texas forward Jordan Hamilton, who now is headed to the Mile High City. Portland traded guard Rudy Fernandez to the Mavericks in the deal.


Read more: Nuggets draft Kenneth Faried then complete trade for Andre Miller and Jordan Hamilton - The Denver Post http://www.denverpost.com/sports/ci_183 ... z1QA1PztPt
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Said after Portland got Miller...
"For me, Andre is a wonderful point guard. I am a huge Andre Miller fan," Karl said. "I think he is a top 7 point guard in the league, and has been for many years. He is quiet and doesn't get the recognition that he deserves. I think he will be better the more familiar he gets with these players and the more familiar he gets with their offense."

When Karl became the head coach in Denver, it was Miller who helped make the transition easier for both Karl and the team.

"I have always joked that when I came to Denver in the middle of the season, my name was the head coach, but Andre Miller really coached the team for about two weeks. He called the plays. He would call plays, and I would go 'what's that?'. He knew the playbook and he knew the concepts. We ran one play tonight for Chauncey, and we called it in the 4th quarter, and he (Andre) knew it. Our guys don't even know the play and he knew it. So that's the type of quarterback and leader you have."




Yeah, I remember stories like this about Miller when he was sitting down to talk to Nate as a FA. He already knew our playbook. I always liked Andre. Very smart player who would win you games with his veteran tricks and intelligence. I have little hope of that from Felton. Good luck Nuggets!
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Post#10 » by pickaxe » Fri Jun 24, 2011 2:34 pm

Finally some new news.

Well, at least the pg situation is more straighforward. The all around big situation is much more solid than we've had. We've got a handful of hardworking young guards and sfs who will be a great example.

The roots of the team are strong. I likey.
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Post#11 » by Nutty Nats Fan » Fri Jun 24, 2011 3:04 pm

Awful trade by the FO.

GK said he really misses Miller. GK will be playing Miller 30 minutes a night. May not start him, but him and Lawson will be on the floor a lot. I'd really have hoped the FO would realize by now, they need to GK-proof the roster.
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Post#12 » by el loco » Fri Jun 24, 2011 3:24 pm

Nutty Nats Fan wrote:Awful trade by the FO.

GK said he really misses Miller. GK will be playing Miller 30 minutes a night. May not start him, but him and Lawson will be on the floor a lot. I'd really have hoped the FO would realize by now, they need to GK-proof the roster.


He is going to play a 2 pg lineup no matter who the pg's are, and Miller is still decent, so things could be worse.
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Post#13 » by Nutty Nats Fan » Fri Jun 24, 2011 3:59 pm

el loco wrote:
Nutty Nats Fan wrote:Awful trade by the FO.

GK said he really misses Miller. GK will be playing Miller 30 minutes a night. May not start him, but him and Lawson will be on the floor a lot. I'd really have hoped the FO would realize by now, they need to GK-proof the roster.


He is going to play a 2 pg lineup no matter who the pg's are, and Miller is still decent, so things could be worse.

Only carry one PG? :lol:
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Post#14 » by el loco » Fri Jun 24, 2011 4:13 pm

Nutty Nats Fan wrote:
el loco wrote:
Nutty Nats Fan wrote:Awful trade by the FO.

GK said he really misses Miller. GK will be playing Miller 30 minutes a night. May not start him, but him and Lawson will be on the floor a lot. I'd really have hoped the FO would realize by now, they need to GK-proof the roster.


He is going to play a 2 pg lineup no matter who the pg's are, and Miller is still decent, so things could be worse.

Only carry one PG? :lol:


The Nuggets tried that with Lawsome in the playoffs, the other pg played the majority of his minutes for the other team :lol:
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Post#15 » by Teens On Acid » Fri Jun 24, 2011 4:36 pm

all we need now is Camby, Kleiza and Najera back in the rotation....andre miller.....really?
uuugggghhhh....

pg issues aside, i'm interested in how our rooks are going to contribute. they both seem like hungry players willing to contribute...i def like that
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Post#16 » by basketballdario » Fri Jun 24, 2011 6:15 pm

Getting Hamilton really makes me think we won't be seeing JR Smith back, but I could be wrong.

I do like all the moves. I think Faried can make an immediate impact coming off the bench with his effort and rebounding, that's never a bad asset to have. Speaking of assets, we have so many now I imagine that at least halfway through the next season there will be another big trade (whenever they start playing again).

Hopefully Chukwudibeire (I tried my best) is in a situation where he actually has to show us something before spending a roster spot on him. Project big men, especially ones this far away, are a longshot to become productive players. It has happened before, but not often.

But I think this was a great draft. I give Masai a lot of credit for this draft, easily the best one in years.
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Post#17 » by The Rebel » Fri Jun 24, 2011 6:28 pm

Hamilton I think is more of a replacement for Chandler then JR, while Hamilton can hit the outside shot he has always played forward in college
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Post#18 » by almost famous » Fri Jun 24, 2011 9:32 pm

I don't think Denver went into the draft with the mindset of replacing anyone but Kenyon, but Hamilton certainly makes for excellent insurance for Chandler.

I think our next move should really be to find a taker for Al Harrington.
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Post#19 » by Yoga » Fri Jun 24, 2011 9:44 pm

I didn't like the trade at all. I would have prefered to have Rudy Fernandez instead of a late 1st round pick in this weak draft.

Dallas got Fernandez for nothing. Lucky them.
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Post#20 » by Yoga » Fri Jun 24, 2011 9:48 pm

Nutty Nats Fan wrote:Awful trade by the FO.



+1

I don't know why other Nugget fans are praising this trade. When I saw the details, I was like "we got fleeced". Dallas and Portland emerged the real winners of the trade.

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