Any word on Afflalo negotiations?

bstein14 · Post #1 » by **bstein14** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 9:56 pm

Just wondering... as many people would feel that Afflalo and Stuckey could possibly be worth about the same amount of money. Reports out of Detroit are that Stuck wants $10 million per year (5 years $50 million) but Dumars only offered $8 million per ($40 million over 5)...

Have there been any reports on Afflalo's contract negotiations? What's going on with him and Denver? Seems like he has drawn interest around the league but mostly from teams with MLE type money which Denver would certainly match...

youngthegiant · Post #2 » by **youngthegiant** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 10:03 pm

looking good so far. afflalo has been quoted saying "leave a roster spot for me" and our gm said he is very optimistic afflalo will return. he will be signed shortly but for how much is the question.

Ice32 · Post #3 » by **Ice32** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 10:09 pm

It would seem that he's coming back, but why has it taken this long? Also with Rudy and Brewer in the mix, maybe Denver are playing hard ball hoping Afflalo will take less money.

almost famous · Post #4 » by **almost famous** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 10:28 pm

I think he might just take the QO. I'm surprised we haven't heard about any offers to him yet.

bstein14 · Post #5 » by **bstein14** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 10:47 pm

What type of contract would you guys see fit for Afflalo with the Nuggets?

5 years $35 million ($7 mil per)
5 years $40 million ($8 mil per)
5 years $45 million ($9 mil per)

The big this about this contract is that only teams with capspace can actually offer him more than $23 million over 4 years (which is the new MLE contract).

DaFan334 · Post #6 » by **DaFan334** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 10:55 pm

Better late than never: Masai Ujiri says he talked to Arron Afflalo on Tuesday and AAA told him to "hold a roster spot open."
Via Aaron Lopez's twitter account.
http://twitter.com/#!/Lopez_Nuggets/sta ... 0058477569

Doubt he takes the QO because I believe his is something under a Mil for the year. We should be able to get him wrapped up long term shortly here.

bstein14 · Post #7 » by **bstein14** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 11:39 pm

No chance he takes the QO... he could find a team that would probably give him a 1 year $5+ million deal no problem... even Denver would probably do that if they didn't feel like he was going to be worth a long term deal he wants.

pickIBL · Post #8 » by **pickIBL** » Sat Dec 17, 2011 10:06 pm

credit the Nuggets for knowing when to let Dahntay Jones go... AA is a very good role player asking for star money... there is a big gap between Denver and AA right now... I'm not for overpaying for him as much as I do like his game. Amnesty Al Harrington and lets play the salary cap game this year.

Ice32 · Post #9 » by **Ice32** » Sat Dec 17, 2011 11:09 pm

I think Afflalo is hoping for more than what Jamal Crawford got (10 for 2 yrs) and probably what Rodney Stuckey just got (25 for 3 yrs).

Denver wont pay that much, especially now that Rudy is here to prove something. I mean, if Afflalo wanted to be here for a reasonable multi-year deal, he would be on board. But he could get more elsewhere for a one year deal.

I think Harrington is safe for this season at least, he's in good shape.

Post #10 » by **corona** » Sun Dec 18, 2011 1:33 am

Ice32 wrote:Denver wont pay that much, especially now that Rudy is here to prove something. I mean, if Afflalo wanted to be here for a reasonable multi-year deal, he would be on board. But he could get more elsewhere for a one year deal.

for your first big contract, signing a one year deal is extremely ignorant. it's so easy to tear your acl or find out you have knees like greg oden or take a fall like shaun livingston or the dude who played for milwaukee that broke his back. then you and your family and your kids are out 30+ million bucks....because of selfishness and greed.

not to mention denver would more than likely match the one year deal.

i think everyone's just trying to establish his market value. denver doesn't want to overpay....afflalo wants to be here, but he and his agent don't want him to be underpaid given he is a pretty darn good player and guys of stuckey & thaddeus youngs caliber are getting 8 million a season.

youngthegiant · Post #11 » by **youngthegiant** » Mon Dec 19, 2011 8:31 pm

hochman just reported that afflalo is in denver right now. hopefully he is re-signed in the upcoming hours.

Post #12 » by **The Rebel** » Tue Dec 20, 2011 2:34 am

Afflalo deal done, 5yr $43 million
http://www.denverpost.com/nuggets/ci_19580851

almost famous · Post #13 » by **almost famous** » Tue Dec 20, 2011 2:59 am

A lot of people will think he was overpaid. It's a bit more than I wanted to pay him, but I'm not that upset. There are a lot worse ways to spend that money. I'm just happy to have him back.

As long as the money doesn't change his attitude and work ethic, I'm happy for the kid.

no D in Hibachi · Post #14 » by **no D in Hibachi** » Tue Dec 20, 2011 4:01 am

5/43 is a definate overpayment for Afflalo considering he's really a 4th wheel type player on a good team. He's a solid, but limited player and I don't see much upside beyond where he is right now. I question his value when the other 5 top SG's (JRich, Stuckey, Hamilton, Crawford, & Young) made 26, 25, 15, 10, & 3.7 respectively. Afflalo is making significantly more than each of those players and isn't significantly better, if at all, than that group.

Nuggninja · Post #15 » by **Nuggninja** » Tue Dec 20, 2011 4:23 am

no D in Hibachi wrote:5/43 is a definate overpayment for Afflalo considering he's really a 4th wheel type player on a good team. He's a solid, but limited player and I don't see much upside beyond where he is right now. I question his value when the other 5 top SG's (JRich, Stuckey, Hamilton, Crawford, & Young) made 26, 25, 15, 10, & 3.7 respectively. Afflalo is making significantly more than each of those players and isn't significantly better, if at all, than that group.

I wouldn't take any of them over Afflalo, so he's not that overpaid. And he was underpaid last year.

He's a better defender than all of those guys, and his improvement from his first year as a nugget to the second was significant. So I don't think you evaluation of his potential is based ob anything substantive. You can't teach work ethic or leadership and Afflalo provides both. The Nuggets are a much better team with Afflalo.

Manimal · Post #16 » by **Manimal** » Tue Dec 20, 2011 4:26 am

That's an interesting way of listing the salaries, considering they all got less years than Afflalo.

Richardson will make 6.5 per year, Stuckey 8.3, Crawford 5, Hamilton 5, and Young took the QO because he couldn't get the 9 mill he wanted.

Three of those guys are over 30 years old too, and took shorter deals. That changes the dynamics quite a bit. Stuckey got just as much, and like I said, Young taking the QO is a completely different scenario. We could have not given AA this contract and only paid him 2.5 mill this year, but then we likely would've lost him next season as an UFA, like the Wiz will with Young.

Afflalo is easily one of the better SGs in this league, probably in the 10-15 range. He's still young and the leader of this team. The fact that he makes about the same money as players not as good as him is a positive thing to me. Of course it would have been nice to sign him for less, but I can't say he is really that overpaid, if at all. Even if he is, there isn't a single player who deserves it more than he does. I'm not mad at all about this signing.

GuyJones · Post #17 » by **GuyJones** » Tue Dec 20, 2011 5:32 am

All it says so far is that it is up to 43 million. Which is definitely better than straight 9 million a year. Interest to see how it is structurally laid out.

All in all, very glad we kept AA. Slightly overpaying, but at the beginning of last year he was playing like an all-star before he got injured. I am hoping he can come out with the same work ethic and motivation and progress to that same level, and hopefully even better.

Just glad we have our core Lawson / AA / Nene all back, should be a fun year.

KAVK · Post #18 » by **KAVK** » Tue Dec 20, 2011 5:57 am

Congrats on a signing. Bit over than i expected but not bad either.

DaFan334 · Post #19 » by **DaFan334** » Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:32 am

Can't say AA doesn't put in the work to deserve a good contract. Good to see one of the better people in sports deservingly rewarded. Looking forward to the start of the season.

Post #20 » by **The Rebel** » Tue Dec 20, 2011 3:34 pm

it amazes me the way some are attacking this contract, not to mention Nene's. Both are more then I would have liked, but going into the offseason most had them as the top available players at their positions, and yet the Nuggets signed them each for less then many thought it would take. neither are a bad deal in this years market, and I am happy to have them both back in Denver.