Denver getting ready for Chandler?

[Ice32]

Today two stories came out about the Nuggets wanting to offer Chandler a multi year deal, and then they waived DeMarre Carroll. Theres talk that the Nuggets will offer Chandler 3-4 years, and now with Carroll gone, the roster spot is available.

Question is, will someone else on the roster be gone soon to? We are already 9 deep, with Chandler 10, so minutes are going to be difficult and someones going to be unhappy.

My theories for candidates gone are:

Andre Miller will be traded for a cheap PG and/or a TPE. Denver liked what they saw in Stone and believe that Rudy is capable of playing back up mins.

Corey Brewer could be the odd man out, has 2 years left on his contract and plays the same position as Chandler. Already gets minimal minutes in the current 9 man rotation.

Rudy Fernandez does not have a contract after this season, and whilst he has excelled in this system, his numbers are inconsistent.

Birdman is on the outta and in the doghouse. Who would want him though with 3 years left?

[slipspeed]

Birdman is untradeable and I don't see Rudy leaving (I'll be pissed if he does).

Why trade Corey Brewer? Just don't play him anymore if we sign Wilson.

[youngthegiant]

something has to budge. i think it has to be rudy or miller. while miller's veteran presence is big, he won't be around in denver very long and he creates quite a few defensive mismatches when him and ty play together. rudy is in his last year of his contract, and who knows how much he is going to want, and he hasn't exactly been solid in terms of scoring and defense is pretty bad as well. brewer sticks around because he has another year on his contract at a reasonable price. denver needs to think long and hard because these next few moves will change the future of the team.

[mutumba]

I'm still surprised he's open to re-signing here after hearing so many rumors about him being unhappy last year. Makes me wonder if they promised him an opportunity to start. Of course it might take him a week or so to get acclimated, but with Mozgov hurt, I wouldn't mind seeing a Lawon/Afflalo/Chandler/Gallo/Nene lineup (unless we play the Lakers). Gotta think that Brewer is the odd man out, but Rudy and Afflalo have been pretty inconsistent too.

I really want to keep Andre around. Seems like whenever the offense is stagnant or chaotic, he comes in and brings that calmness and crafty veteran savvy, something that has continually bailed us out all year. You can probably count on two hands the number of games he has saved for us.

[youngthegiant]

I'm still surprised he's open to re-signing here after hearing so many rumors about him being unhappy last year. Makes me wonder if they promised him an opportunity to start. Of course it might take him a week or so to get acclimated, but with Mozgov hurt, I wouldn't mind seeing a Lawon/Afflalo/Chandler/Gallo/Nene lineup (unless we play the Lakers). Gotta think that Brewer is the odd man out, but Rudy and Afflalo have been pretty inconsistent too.

I really want to keep Andre around. Seems like whenever the offense is stagnant or chaotic, he comes in and brings that calmness and crafty veteran savvy, something that has continually bailed us out all year. You can probably count on two hands the number of games he has saved for us.

i really wanna see this team for a few games without miller. just to see how different they play.

[The Rebel]

Reading this thread makes me wonder if anybody actually has watched Wilson chandler. What affect would he have on PGs? People act as it the Nuggets have to cut payroll, they are at the lowest payroll they have had in 8 years, they can afford to bring in Chandler this year, most o the roster moves were decided long ago, with Miller making it known he would not be happy being a long term backup, and rudy already gone.

MIller is not going anywhere this season, I doubt the plan has ever been for him to stay next year, if he does it will be with a paycut.

Rudy has already signed a contract in europe for the next 5 years, I doubt he stays.

Brewer will probably stay with Denver for now, he will be the 5th Sg/SF this season, and unless the Nuggets get a better all around option he will be the backup 2 next year.

Chandler will play minutes at the 3 and 4 this year, with Brewer, Harrington, and Rudy more then likely getting less minutes.

I can also see the Nuggets trading Andersen, even with his decline he is still effective at times, and is a center which is still in huge demand.

[clockwork]

the only thing is with lawson is that he still doubts himself and still is afraid to shoot the ball. last night for example with fisher, he could of out ran him on any given play, including the last ones. instead he passed the ball. the guy has to be fearless, he can out run anybody in this league.

[KAVK]

the only thing is with lawson is that he still doubts himself and still is afraid to shoot the ball. last night for example with fisher, he could of out ran him on any given play, including the last ones. instead he passed the ball. the guy has to be fearless, he can out run anybody in this league.

Agree.

In order to win war you have to kill first to feel comfortable killing more. Karl has been handing close game situations more to Miller which i am not against but Karl needs to start showing his starter PG a little more trust at the end of the games regardless of the outcome to train and gain his confidence.

[nugzin2040]

Reading this thread makes me wonder if anybody actually has watched Wilson chandler. What affect would he have on PGs? People act as it the Nuggets have to cut payroll, they are at the lowest payroll they have had in 8 years, they can afford to bring in Chandler this year, most o the roster moves were decided long ago, with Miller making it known he would not be happy being a long term backup, and rudy already gone.

While it is true that Denver is at a lower payroll then in past years, with the Afflalo, Nene and Gallinari contracts their payroll is still getting up there. Have to be careful who they sign and for what amount. Lawson still needs to be signed, and Denver needs money available under the luxury tax if another one of their younger players shows enough progress to warrant a big extension.

I can only assume, since Masai insisted on Mozgov in trade, that he's someone that Denver wants to keep long-term as well. Young centers with potential typically get overpaid.

I can also see the Nuggets trading Andersen, even with his decline he is still effective at times, and is a center which is still in huge demand.

I'd like to know what times he's effective. He's the least effective player on our team probably, and other then the rookies, and ex-Nugget DeMarre Carrol, likely leads the team in DNP. The most effective thing he's done all season, is help Mozgov into the locker room following Mozgov's ankle sprain.

He has no value. Denver either eats the contract, they amnesty him, or they trade him for a contract that is likely just as bad if not worse.

[The Rebel]

Reading this thread makes me wonder if anybody actually has watched Wilson chandler. What affect would he have on PGs? People act as it the Nuggets have to cut payroll, they are at the lowest payroll they have had in 8 years, they can afford to bring in Chandler this year, most o the roster moves were decided long ago, with Miller making it known he would not be happy being a long term backup, and rudy already gone.

While it is true that Denver is at a lower payroll then in past years, with the Afflalo, Nene and Gallinari contracts their payroll is still getting up there. Have to be careful who they sign and for what amount. Lawson still needs to be signed, and Denver needs money available under the luxury tax if another one of their younger players shows enough progress to warrant a big extension.

Nene, Afflalo, and Gallo will make right around $31 million next year, keeping all 12 players they currently have under contract for next year only puts them at $53 million for next year. Leaving them $18 million for a backup PG, a backup SG, and to resign Chandler, even if they make no other moves. they can easily afford to bring back Chandler and still have the money to do what they need for the next 2 years.

Even if they resign Lawson next summer his new contract does not kick in until 2013/2014 if you are going to make decisions on your team now based on a possible money problem in 2 years then you are not trying to compete today, especially when you consider the Nuggets only have $35 million committed for 2013/2014 and that is if they do not cut the $3.57 off the cap by cutting Harrington.

I can only assume, since Masai insisted on Mozgov in trade, that he's someone that Denver wants to keep long-term as well. Young centers with potential typically get overpaid.

I sure they will want to keep Mozgov, but that is not something they even have to worry about until 2013/14 as he is under contract for next year.

I can also see the Nuggets trading Andersen, even with his decline he is still effective at times, and is a center which is still in huge demand.

I'd like to know what times he's effective. He's the least effective player on our team probably, and other then the rookies, and ex-Nugget DeMarre Carrol, likely leads the team in DNP. The most effective thing he's done all season, is help Mozgov into the locker room following Mozgov's ankle sprain.

He has no value. Denver either eats the contract, they amnesty him, or they trade him for a contract that is likely just as bad if not worse.

A guy putting up a 19.8 per, and 12 and 10 with 2 blocks per 36 minutes is never effective? Are you sure about that? Go back and look up what he did against the Lakers the 1st time they played, the 76ers, the Nets, the bucks, the kings in both games, as i said he is still effective at times. While Andersen is certainly not the player he once was, he still have his moments, and given the lack of centers around the league there are teams that will give up a a 2nd round pick at least for the guy.

[nugzin2040]

Nene, Afflalo, and Gallo will make right around $31 million next year, keeping all 12 players they currently have under contract for next year only puts them at $53 million for next year. Leaving them $18 million for a backup PG, a backup SG, and to resign Chandler, even if they make no other moves. they can easily afford to bring back Chandler and still have the money to do what they need for the next 2 years.

Even if they resign Lawson next summer his new contract does not kick in until 2013/2014 if you are going to make decisions on your team now based on a possible money problem in 2 years then you are not trying to compete today, especially when you consider the Nuggets only have $35 million committed for 2013/2014 and that is if they do not cut the $3.57 off the cap by cutting Harrington.

Well, I think some foresight with future extensions has to be taken into account. Or you end up with a situation, where it might be difficult to retain

I get $56.8 million of salaries for Nene, Afflalo, Harrington, Andersen, Gallinari, Brewer, Koufos, Mozgov, Lawson, Faried, Hamilton. If we take the option on Stone and keep our first round pick on a player that takes a roster spot this season (not a foreign player that we stash away for a year or two), that would add $2 million. I'm assuming both Gallinari and Koufos have a balanced salary for the duration of their extension ($10.5 for Gallo, $3 for Koufos). If so, it's about $11.5 million before Denver reaches the luxury tax.

I would like us to sign Chandler, just think we have to be very careful moving forward with contracts. Giving him an Afflalo type contract, likely only leaves us $4 million before they hit the luxury tax. Would also put us at 13 roster spots. If neither Hamilton or Stone are in Denver's long-term plans in at least a back-up role, then Denver would need to move forward in picking up a player in free agency too.

I sure they will want to keep Mozgov, but that is not something they even have to worry about until 2013/14 as he is under contract for next year.

Agreed, it's more an issue down the line. But it's only one year removed from next offseason... and both him and Lawson will probably collectively average $17 million combined annually if extended. Add Chandler's contract and that could be $25 million more committed

A guy putting up a 19.8 per, and 12 and 10 with 2 blocks per 36 minutes is never effective? Are you sure about that? Go back and look up what he did against the Lakers the 1st time they played, the 76ers, the Nets, the bucks, the kings in both games, as i said he is still effective at times. While Andersen is certainly not the player he once was, he still have his moments, and given the lack of centers around the league there are teams that will give up a a 2nd round pick at least for the guy.

Per 36 minutes stats are fairly insignificant when a player doesn't have the ability to play 36 mpg. He has played well in a few games this season (Lakers game mainly), but many of the games you mentioned he produced well in garbage time.

Maybe there's some team willing to add $4.5 million of salary. I'd think that a team that was under the cap would be better off spending money elsewhere in free agency. Centers are at a premium, but Birdman's max value is likely a 5-10 minute guy that at least half of the time will not give you a good 5-10 minutes. I'd rather take my chances on the draft or in the foreign market.

[clockwork]

The most effective thing he's done all season, is help Mozgov into the locker room following Mozgov's ankle sprain.

i'm pretty sure it was faried and andersen.

[KAVK]

The most effective thing he's done all season, is help Mozgov into the locker room following Mozgov's ankle sprain.

i'm pretty sure it was faried and andersen.

All i am doing is crossing my fingers that Koufos gets decent PT + Bonus Faried while Mozzy recovers THAT IS ALL.

Please god this team needs energizer bunny !

[youngthegiant]

chandler might be returning pretty soon. his team is currently out of the playoffs but could still get in. if his team misses the playoffs, february 15th will be his last day in china. now if wilson does return to the nuggets, anyone think he could possibly be better than gallo. both are comparable in that they have great all around games. chandler being a better defensive player.

[nugzin2040]

Larry Coon stated on twitter that the deadline for Qualifying offers to be signed has passed (Dec 25th). Which is good news as Denver gains leverage from the situation. Chandler is limited to signing a multi-year contract, or waiting it out until the off-season. Hopefully, we get a deal that is fair for both sides.

[DaFan334]

Since he didn't sign the qualifying offer, is he still restricted next year if he doesn't sign this year and sits our the rest of the season?

[The Rebel]

Since he didn't sign the qualifying offer, is he still restricted next year if he doesn't sign this year and sits our the rest of the season?

denver has to make the qualifying offer to him once again after this season to keep him restricted, but I am sure they would do that.

[The Rebel]

Article from Coon on Chandler's options.
http://www.hoopsworld.com/coon-are-chan ... ooks-stuck

[DaFan334]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=A ... nba_020812

Sounds like Wilson is wanting to come back here now. This report makes me question the whole Chandler not liking Denver thing. I think the majority of that opinion came from an article when he was a Knick still asking him if he wanted to be traded, which most smart NBA players would quickly say no as he did, so not to alienate their fan base. Wilson is a small town kid, I doubt he misses the NYC lights nearly as much as some seem to think.

[eathb_au]

Don't know where that came from.

He just plays basketball without emotions like Dre does. Doesn't mean he wants out.