Re: TRADE GALLINARI
Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 3:44 am
Please don't trade Gallo to the Raptors guys, he deserves better than that.
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GnarlesOakley wrote:Please don't trade Gallo to the Raptors guys, he deserves better than that.
GnarlesOakley wrote:Please don't trade Gallo to the Raptors guys, he deserves better than that.
eathb_au wrote:I don't agree with the 20 ppg guy, I don't think he needs to score that much.
Best case would be that he becomes an SF version of a Manu for us, but that's looking doubtful now since he takes too many bad jumpshots to be a good shooter and lacks aggression a lot of times.
At this stage he's becoming the next Hedo Turkoglu, which is okay but it's sorta disappointing since you expect more.
ArrogantBastard wrote:Being a borderline all star (and I can agree with it about Gallo) is > then being a role player. If gallo is only a role player, what are the others Nuggets players? Benchwarmers?
I think that Gallinari can develop in a Ginobili kind of player, even if with different features. They have both a peculiar mentality, different from an US player, because they are of European school (yes, Ginobili too: he developed as a player in Europe).
American all star is something different. Melo is an all star (but he hasn't won anything so far), Lebron is an all star (but he won only last year after a long waiting). Being an all star caliber player doesn't mean necessarily to win. Ginobili is not an all star and he won a lot. He is an essential player, or better, a Quintessential player. He is precious in a winning team, in a championship team, beside to an all star caliber player (Duncan, Parker...). This kind of players are rare and priceless. Maybe they are more hard to find then an all star: giving to the team what the team needs, without pretending to shine under the spotlight, that is not for all of them.
Often this kind of players are of European school, where the team counts more then the player and the statistics. Gasol for the winning Lakers? Or, back in time, Tony Kukoc for the Jordan's Bulls? Being decisive, from behind the front line.
Gallo could develop in this kind of player IMHO. But in Denver, with a lacking of all stars, he is called to play a role that is not his role, that he can play only some of the games (like yesterday), but not on every single night: that is beyond him. I could be wrong, and I would be happy of that. But I think to be right, knowing him since a long ago.
He could give, instead, a great boost to a border championship team, even as 6th man.
TKF wrote:when you see outburst like the 39 point game, you are like, dude, you should have games like this every 4-5 games..
The Rebel wrote:21shumpshumpst wrote:What is your take on Gallo? You give it to people straight. Just want to hear your thoughts. Because I remember as a Knick fan the Gallo sucks vs Gallo is a superstar debate. I always was in the Gallo is a role player camp. I never see him as a scrub but neither as a savior. Nice piece to have but not a necessity in a championship team.
Personally I like Gallo but I don't think he will ever be a superstar, more like a poor mans taller Ginobli that is best served as a 2nd or 3rd option where he can create and get wide open outside shots. He has more talent then that, he could be a multi time all star, but he just does not seem to have the mentality to do it. I think he can be an important piece on the right team, but I don't really think he will ever be more then a borderline all star.
pickIBL wrote:Without a superstar you need a lot of talent that plays really well together.
I'm a buy low sell high type... and the coach in me remembers Beasley at K-State and just can't let that go. Would it be crazy to try and take on a project like Beasley?
pickIBL wrote:Without a superstar you need a lot of talent that plays really well together.
I'm a buy low sell high type... and the coach in me remembers Beasley at K-State and just can't let that go. Would it be crazy to try and take on a project like Beasley?
TKF wrote:ArrogantBastard wrote:Being a borderline all star (and I can agree with it about Gallo) is > then being a role player. If gallo is only a role player, what are the others Nuggets players? Benchwarmers?
I think that Gallinari can develop in a Ginobili kind of player, even if with different features. They have both a peculiar mentality, different from an US player, because they are of European school (yes, Ginobili too: he developed as a player in Europe).
American all star is something different. Melo is an all star (but he hasn't won anything so far), Lebron is an all star (but he won only last year after a long waiting). Being an all star caliber player doesn't mean necessarily to win. Ginobili is not an all star and he won a lot. He is an essential player, or better, a Quintessential player. He is precious in a winning team, in a championship team, beside to an all star caliber player (Duncan, Parker...). This kind of players are rare and priceless. Maybe they are more hard to find then an all star: giving to the team what the team needs, without pretending to shine under the spotlight, that is not for all of them.
Often this kind of players are of European school, where the team counts more then the player and the statistics. Gasol for the winning Lakers? Or, back in time, Tony Kukoc for the Jordan's Bulls? Being decisive, from behind the front line.
Gallo could develop in this kind of player IMHO. But in Denver, with a lacking of all stars, he is called to play a role that is not his role, that he can play only some of the games (like yesterday), but not on every single night: that is beyond him. I could be wrong, and I would be happy of that. But I think to be right, knowing him since a long ago.
He could give, instead, a great boost to a border championship team, even as 6th man.
+100 good post.
ArrogantBastard wrote:TKF wrote:ArrogantBastard wrote:Being a borderline all star (and I can agree with it about Gallo) is > then being a role player. If gallo is only a role player, what are the others Nuggets players? Benchwarmers?
I think that Gallinari can develop in a Ginobili kind of player, even if with different features. They have both a peculiar mentality, different from an US player, because they are of European school (yes, Ginobili too: he developed as a player in Europe).
American all star is something different. Melo is an all star (but he hasn't won anything so far), Lebron is an all star (but he won only last year after a long waiting). Being an all star caliber player doesn't mean necessarily to win. Ginobili is not an all star and he won a lot. He is an essential player, or better, a Quintessential player. He is precious in a winning team, in a championship team, beside to an all star caliber player (Duncan, Parker...). This kind of players are rare and priceless. Maybe they are more hard to find then an all star: giving to the team what the team needs, without pretending to shine under the spotlight, that is not for all of them.
Often this kind of players are of European school, where the team counts more then the player and the statistics. Gasol for the winning Lakers? Or, back in time, Tony Kukoc for the Jordan's Bulls? Being decisive, from behind the front line.
Gallo could develop in this kind of player IMHO. But in Denver, with a lacking of all stars, he is called to play a role that is not his role, that he can play only some of the games (like yesterday), but not on every single night: that is beyond him. I could be wrong, and I would be happy of that. But I think to be right, knowing him since a long ago.
He could give, instead, a great boost to a border championship team, even as 6th man.
+100 good post.
Hello TKF,
nice to meet you again!
I was a devoted reader of your after-game comments, when Gallo played for the Knicks, I enjoyed it and we had some talks at that time.
I always follow my favorite Italian player, so now I watch every single Nuggets game, a nice team to watch. I see that your are even now a Gallo's fan. And what about NY? Sometimes I take a look at the NY Real GM forum, but you are disappeared... Am I wrong?