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Iguadala to opt out 

Post#1 » by DaFan334 » Sun Mar 31, 2013 3:24 am

http://www.foxsportsflorida.com/story/I ... edID=10140

Hopefully we can make it work out with him on a team friendly deal. He is having a down year statistically and might not have a huge market. His defense and playmaking would be a big loss. Fournier might help fill his shoes and I would guess that Brewer would be brought back for sure unless we find a free agent we want more or make a trade.
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Re: Iguadala to opt out 

Post#2 » by RRFB » Sun Mar 31, 2013 3:41 am

His performance in the playoffs will dictate how big of a contract he gets this summer.

He seems to enjoy playing here and he's a great fit in our system. I really hope we can figure out a way to bring him back.
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Post#3 » by The Rebel » Sun Mar 31, 2013 3:43 pm

Personally I think whether the Nuggets bring him back will depend on the actual offers he gets, people forget this is the 1st time in his career that he will be a free agent, I expect him to enjoy the process. I think if the Nuggets can end up getting him for somewhere around 4 years 44 million give or take they should resign him, otherwise I think I would look for other options.
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Re: Iguadala to opt out 

Post#4 » by corona » Sun Mar 31, 2013 4:25 pm

dont mind.

if we get get him for another 4 years at a reasonable price, i'm alright with that. but i'd also like to have a real shooter at the 2 at some point....and i don't want us to be paying iguodala ~15 million during his athletic decline.
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Re: Iguadala to opt out 

Post#5 » by pickIBL » Sun Mar 31, 2013 11:58 pm

Yep most things Iggy does is predicated on athleticism... good thing contracts are shorter these days. I think the key word is likely. I'm still not so sure he leaves all that money he'll get next year.

I'd be happy if he did opt out. Then the Nuggets just gotta spin McGee for something.
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Re: Iguadala to opt out 

Post#6 » by Powder Blue » Mon Apr 1, 2013 12:09 am

pickIBL you've made it clear you prefer cheap unproven foreign players like Sonny Weems over talent like Iggy, Mcgee etc.

I'm fine with him opting out, he's not worth what his last year would pay him. Sign him to a reasonable 3 or 4 year deal or bring in a 2 that has the ability to make a jump shot.
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Re: Iguadala to opt out 

Post#7 » by pickIBL » Mon Apr 1, 2013 12:23 am

My reason for Sonny Weems... YES cheap. Making his jumpers for CSKA. And it is time for the young guys to step up. We've got plenty of wings. Next year a young one needs a chance to step up.

Tomic is not unproven. Probably will be the EuroLeague MVP and could command a pretty decent pay day in the NBA. Probably a deal starting @ 4 million a year. 7'2, polished inside and mid range to 17 feet. hooks with either hand. 7'10 wingspan. Improved rebounder/battler inside. There are a lot of folks high on Tomic. McGee is an athlete. Tomic is a basketball player.
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Re: Iguadala to opt out 

Post#8 » by scottcarman » Mon Apr 1, 2013 12:34 am

This is fantastic. I agree with Rebel and Corona that something around 4/44 seems about right. Maybe slightly less.

I think if the Nuggets are able to resign Iggy, then they need to trade Dre Miller. He takes up a fair portion of the minutes at SG. And having both your starting SG, and backup SG not be great shooters is oxymoronic (I just wanted to say that word!).

Obviously, we may all change our minds in the next few months.
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Re: Iguadala to opt out 

Post#9 » by scottcarman » Mon Apr 1, 2013 12:36 am

I also think this opens the door for either Brewer or Mozgov to remain with the team or be used as trade chips in S&T.
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Re: Iguadala to opt out 

Post#10 » by Powder Blue » Tue Apr 2, 2013 1:24 am

scottcarman wrote:I also think this opens the door for either Brewer or Mozgov to remain with the team or be used as trade chips in S&T.



S&T possibilites are weakened in this new CBA...I think both parties have to be below the cap or luxury tax line.
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Re: Iguadala to opt out 

Post#11 » by ChuckS » Tue Apr 2, 2013 2:06 pm

scottcarman wrote:This is fantastic. I agree with Rebel and Corona that something around 4/44 seems about right. Maybe slightly less.


I'm, of course, not an agent, or privy to salary potential in the league. I, also, certainly wouldn't expect anything near his final year salary in today's tougher NBA times. And I'm notoriously economical, but if I were to forgo that much money for one year, I would insist on more years to compensate for giving the team an immediate cap and luxury tax break.

In effect, if he signed that contract, he would be making approximately $9 mil for three of the four years. That is certainly not chicken-feed and he and his agent might indeed find it acceptable for a modicum of future security. But they also might consider that Rudy Gay is making $16.5, Danny Granger and Luol Deng $13, Kevin Martin $12.5, and Corey Maggette and Nic Batum $11.

I really do not know the answer. I probably would shoot for a five year contract averaging at least $11 Mil. He'd be sacrificing current earnings for future security, and depending how they choose to structure the deal, the team could see immediate Cap benefits, even if front loaded to protect against future performance decline. Of course the Nuggets could reap even more substantial Cap or luxury tax benefits immediately if structured conventionally.

I'm a fan, but I admit that $16 Mil is too much in today's NBA. But keep in mind that when Dre signed his contract Kirilenko was making $5 Mil more and, as much as I like him, putting up lower numbers. Today, at age 32, he is still making $10mil, and he didn't have to "give away" six million to get that contract on his return to the NBA.

What I am proposing is a compromise. Dre could take a chance on getting an $11 mil, or more, contract after keeping that $16 mil for this year. He'd financially be ahead even at $10mil. I personally expect him to play even better next season. He has followed every FIBA competition with some decline the following year. After the World Championship Gold, he had an injury plagued season. (Tendonitis needs rest.) This year, after the Olympic Gold, he has only missed two and a half games, but his shooting, particularly from distance, has plummeted precipitously. Of course, in fairness, his three point shooting last year was, just as likely, somewhat of an aberration.
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Re: Iguadala to opt out 

Post#12 » by scottcarman » Tue Apr 2, 2013 11:50 pm

Powder Blue wrote:
scottcarman wrote:I also think this opens the door for either Brewer or Mozgov to remain with the team or be used as trade chips in S&T.



S&T possibilites are weakened in this new CBA...I think both parties have to be below the cap or luxury tax line.


correct, both teams need to be below the luxury tax.

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