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Curious About George Karl

Posted: Thu Feb 5, 2015 10:53 pm
by J the Drafter
George has come up quite a bit among Magic fans as a coach they'd prefer. I'd like to know how well he performed when he was running your team, and I'd like to know what you have to say about his firing.

Re: Curious About George Karl

Posted: Thu Feb 5, 2015 11:21 pm
by eathb_au
Good choice if your team has veterans.

Would stay away if it's to rebuild a young team (he's terrible at developing young players) or if its a team that has a superstar with personality issues.

Re: Curious About George Karl

Posted: Thu Feb 5, 2015 11:21 pm
by The Rebel
Karl is a good coach, not great but good. He gets the guys to play together and play hard, he can get the most out of his talent and is flexible in his systems so that it fits the players and situation.

He has problems with overplaying his favorite role player that should be at the end of the bench. Guys like Anthony Carter, Eduardo Najera, Francisco Elson, and other guys were overplayed all the time, to the point of some arguing that Anthony Carter was the reason the Nuggets lost the western conference finals.

Karl also has no problem fueding with star players who he does not feel put in the maximum effort at all times, he has a long history of fighting with guys like JR Smith, Carmelo, Kenyon Martin, Ray Allen, and Gary Payton. But he still gets production out of them.

WIth as bad as Shaw has been over the last couple of seasons there are many fans who would love to see Karl come back to Denver, but he does have some issues.


AS far as what to say about his firing, he was fired for getting in the owner's face and aggressively demanding a raise and extension from a owner that has a long history of never extending coaches and front office personnel, all the other noise out there is just noise. He was not offered an extension, it was not surprising considering ownership, and given the recent failure in the playoffs (regardless of reasons) that was the dumbest thing someone could do.

Re: Curious About George Karl

Posted: Thu Feb 5, 2015 11:24 pm
by The Rebel
eathb_au wrote:Good choice if your team has veterans.

Would stay away if it's to rebuild a young team (he's terrible at developing young players) or if its a team that has a superstar with personality issues.


I would not say that, he did just fine with Faried, Lawson, Gallo, Chandler, Afflalo, Carmelo, Ray Allen, Gary Payton, Shawn Kemp, Michael Redd, he has a long history of developing players and getting them to play up to their potential as long as they are not idiots like JR Smith.

Now the superstar with personality issues, is a terrible mix with Karl. He will get them to play hard, but he has a hard time with todays players who have a hard time with criticism.

Re: Curious About George Karl

Posted: Thu Feb 5, 2015 11:30 pm
by J the Drafter
Thanks for the input. I really appreciate it.

Re: Curious About George Karl

Posted: Fri Feb 6, 2015 12:53 am
by StunnaStan
Karl is actually good with young talent. the difference between the magic and nuggets rosters is that the magic have a stronger core than the nuggets. building off of lawson and faired is more difficult to build off of oladipo and nick vucevic. lawson is on oladipos level but when you compare faried to vucevic, theres a dropoff.

gk in orlando could be a good fit

Re: Curious About George Karl

Posted: Fri Feb 6, 2015 2:59 pm
by Powder Blue
Going to agree with a lot of what Rebel said, Karl is a good coach, not a great coach but very solid and clearly not easy to replace. He does tend to over-rely on favorites and Fournier wasn't a guy he played much, curious how that reunion would go. He'd be a great hire for the Magic....and then I wouldn't have to read all the silly posts about Denver bringing him back.

His record speaks for itself. I'm done talking ish about the man, I just saw him 2 weeks ago at Trader Joe's in Cherry Creek, looked like he'd just had knee surgery, exchanged a few works with him, nice guy.

Re: Curious About George Karl

Posted: Mon Feb 9, 2015 8:05 pm
by skywalker33
Looks like SAC just made him an offer. Would love to see GK back in the league and maybe he can put a fire under the Kings players, at least enough to move past us in the standings....go GK !!

https://twitter.com/RicBucher/status/564857929648455681