2017 offseason

[NuggetsWY]

If CHI releases him, what do you guys think about picking up DWade. Allows us to trade Barton while keeping some scoring off the bench, thoughts ?

1. Don't think we can do it -- cap-wise. Even if we renounce Plumlee, I don't think we have more than $10m.
2. Do you think he's be willing to come off the bench?
3. Do you think they'd trade Barton? They haven't made any noise about that, but that doesn't mean they haven't tried. Even if the Nuggets keep silent, we hear so many rumors that never even happen, you'd think one would be floating around. We've heard about trading Murray & Harris and suggestions of Hernangomez & Mudiay - but silence on Barton. He's probably a "Malone wants his veterans" player.
4. Even if we did trade Barton, we'd still have Harris, Murray, Beasley, Nelson, Mudiay. Rather young except for Nelson but bringing in Wade and/or keeping Barton just keeps the young guys from playing --- so obviously I'm not happy with it (although I'd love Wade on the Nuggets anyway.

[skywalker33]

If CHI releases him, what do you guys think about picking up DWade. Allows us to trade Barton while keeping some scoring off the bench, thoughts ?

1. Don't think we can do it -- cap-wise. Even if we renounce Plumlee, I don't think we have more than $10m.
2. Do you think he's be willing to come off the bench?
3. Do you think they'd trade Barton? They haven't made any noise about that, but that doesn't mean they haven't tried. Even if the Nuggets keep silent, we hear so many rumors that never even happen, you'd think one would be floating around. We've heard about trading Murray & Harris and suggestions of Hernangomez & Mudiay - but silence on Barton. He's probably a "Malone wants his veterans" player.
4. Even if we did trade Barton, we'd still have Harris, Murray, Beasley, Nelson, Mudiay. Rather young except for Nelson but bringing in Wade and/or keeping Barton just keeps the young guys from playing --- so obviously I'm not happy with it (although I'd love Wade on the Nuggets anyway.

1, If Wade becomes a FA, it's on a buyout from CHI, we could pay him whatever he'd be ok with. He saw the potential last year, we have improved our team with Milsap....doesn't seem so far fetched to me.

2. Yes, I think at this stage of his career he'd take one for the team and come off the bench, Wade has always been a team player IMO.

3. I think signing Wade would make it easier (and more prevalent) for the Nuggets to trade Barton (perhaps along with a PF). THe Nuggets have to see the negative impact Barton has on the flow of this team yet they don't have another reliable scorer off the bench, especially if we move Murray into the starting lineup. As for Malone's "veteran love", I'd bet he'd love Wade more than Barton, just my guess. And the Nuggets always "try" to keep lowkey on the names in rumors and most of what's been "spilled" has more than likely been media or fan driven would just be my guess, don't think TC hasn't been on the phone, just hasn't had enough incentive to relieve himself of Barton yet.

4. Murray, Nelson and Mudiay all play the PG position, Wade plays the SG so really he'd be playing behind Harris and ahead of Beasley and (for one year same as Barton BTW) and I see his leadership and scoring a better fit than Barton's. Seems only Beasley's PT is jeopardized and he's still in a learning process plus we'd WANT to give Wade some rest and allow Beasley those minutes.

[TunaFish]

Wade is interesting but he is declining. If he would take a small contract (since he will get paid by the Bulls) then he is the perfect attention getting move. He might even help you win, a little.

If he is taking a small contract, then he has the choice to go anywhere and perhaps even ring hunt. I am not convinced that he will come cheap. I am convinced that he is not worth a big contract.

[NuggetsWY]

If CHI releases him, what do you guys think about picking up DWade. Allows us to trade Barton while keeping some scoring off the bench, thoughts ?

1. Don't think we can do it -- cap-wise. Even if we renounce Plumlee, I don't think we have more than $10m.
2. Do you think he's be willing to come off the bench?
3. Do you think they'd trade Barton? They haven't made any noise about that, but that doesn't mean they haven't tried. Even if the Nuggets keep silent, we hear so many rumors that never even happen, you'd think one would be floating around. We've heard about trading Murray & Harris and suggestions of Hernangomez & Mudiay - but silence on Barton. He's probably a "Malone wants his veterans" player.
4. Even if we did trade Barton, we'd still have Harris, Murray, Beasley, Nelson, Mudiay. Rather young except for Nelson but bringing in Wade and/or keeping Barton just keeps the young guys from playing --- so obviously I'm not happy with it (although I'd love Wade on the Nuggets anyway.

1, If Wade becomes a FA, it's on a buyout from CHI, we could pay him whatever he'd be ok with. He saw the potential last year, we have improved our team with Milsap....doesn't seem so far fetched to me.

2. Yes, I think at this stage of his career he'd take one for the team and come off the bench, Wade has always been a team player IMO.

3. I think signing Wade would make it easier (and more prevalent) for the Nuggets to trade Barton (perhaps along with a PF). THe Nuggets have to see the negative impact Barton has on the flow of this team yet they don't have another reliable scorer off the bench, especially if we move Murray into the starting lineup. As for Malone's "veteran love", I'd bet he'd love Wade more than Barton, just my guess. And the Nuggets always "try" to keep lowkey on the names in rumors and most of what's been "spilled" has more than likely been media or fan driven would just be my guess, don't think TC hasn't been on the phone, just hasn't had enough incentive to relieve himself of Barton yet.

4. Murray, Nelson and Mudiay all play the PG position, Wade plays the SG so really he'd be playing behind Harris and ahead of Beasley and (for one year same as Barton BTW) and I see his leadership and scoring a better fit than Barton's. Seems only Beasley's PT is jeopardized and he's still in a learning process plus we'd WANT to give Wade some rest and allow Beasley those minutes.

1. Hadn't thought about that.
2. You're probably right.
3. I'm not sure the Nuggets know how to make trades any more. Maybe they overvalue their guys, maybe other teams undervalue them. But they certainly don't believe in "addition by subtraction". But I like your thinking.
4. I'm still afraid they're going to play Nelson at PG and Murray at SG. Getting Wade might eliminate that option for the most part. Totally agree if Barton is gone - and agree totally on "leader" aspect.

[Wiltside]

Nuggets fans, congratulations on a solid offseason. My biggest questions for your team this season:

1.How much does Millsap have left?
2.Is Jamal Murray a starting caliber PG?
3.What do the Nuggets do with Mason Plumlee?
4.How much will you miss Gallinari?



I recently penned a few thoughts on your moves and their potential impact. If you're interested, please have a read: https://thefourpointplay.blog/2017/08/24/nba-nuggets-season-preview/

[NuggetsWY]

Nuggets fans, congratulations on a solid offseason. My biggest questions for your team this season:

1.How much does Millsap have left?
2.Is Jamal Murray a starting caliber PG?
3.What do the Nuggets do with Mason Plumlee?
4.How much will you miss Gallinari?

I recently penned a few thoughts on your moves and their potential impact. If you're interested, please have a read: https://thefourpointplay.blog/2017/08/24/nba-nuggets-season-preview/

Thanks!
1. Who knows? However, since he's not a leaper or a fancy cutter, but plays with brains and position, he might have a lot left in his tank.
2. That's debated. He's not a "traditional" PG but in the modern NBA, most of the best PGs are not "traditional". He played PG in high school and on the Canadian National Team. Kentucky put him at SG because he played next to the very short Ulis. Denver seemed to learn from throwing Mudiay into PG too young and played Murray at SG, so looking at his assist numbers doesn't make sense, especially with a Jokic centered offense, meaning Jokic gets loads of assists. With that said, at the end of the season Murray played some PG because of injuries to Nelson. Those game showed his ability to play PG in the modern NBA.
3. Most of the people on this forum seem to think the Nuggets will re-sign Plumlee. He's probably the best backup center for Jokic in that his style of play is somewhat similar. Most seem to think they'll wait until they can get him for the right price - perhaps $8m per year.
4. It would seem most appreciated Gallinari and even recognize that he did his best to adjust to Jokic's play. We all know he's been the center of the Nuggets' offense since Melo left. But most seem to think it was time to let him go. Will we miss him? Sure! Mostly he had a great attitude even through four rough years. He did what was asked of him. Injuries were probably the biggest reason why Nuggets fans were more willing to let him walk.

But that's just my opinion.

[skywalker33]

Write-up was obvious and regurgitated info IMO. Didn't think you were supposed to "advertise" a personal site on this forum but that's just me, all that is is self-promotion.

[skywalker33]

Khris Middleton's name has been coming up in trade talks, certainly wouldn't mind getting him if the price is reasonable, any takers ?

[NuggetsWY]

Write-up was obvious and regurgitated info IMO. Didn't think you were supposed to "advertise" a personal site on this forum but that's just me, all that is is self-promotion.

I actually didn't even look at the link - oops. Then again, what's a "personal site" these days? There are so many websites out there. I glanced at this one and there are more than a couple guys doing the website. So I don't know why they can't quote it. After all, some of the big websites of today started small too.

[Wiltside]

Write-up was obvious and regurgitated info IMO. Didn't think you were supposed to "advertise" a personal site on this forum but that's just me, all that is is self-promotion.

It's a report, there's going to be some stuff you know.

I do this as a hobby, no self promotion here, just trying to get some nuggets fans thoughts.

Sorry you feel that way but you could just choose to not read. I'll leave it to the mods to tell me if I've done anything wrong

[NuggetsWY]

Khris Middleton's name has been coming up in trade talks, certainly wouldn't mind getting him if the price is reasonable, any takers ?

6'8" and listed as a SG or a? I think he'd fit fine at SF though. He tore his hamstring and didn't play last year until Feb. But at 26 years of age, he might be a nice pick up. I'm not so certain the Bucks will trade him though - he's got a great 3pt stroke. For a 3pt specialist, his 4 boards per game is nice. His salary is $14m for 3 years. They don't look to need PFs, so I'm not sure what we have to trade. But I'd be OK with grabbing him.

[skywalker33]

Write-up was obvious and regurgitated info IMO. Didn't think you were supposed to "advertise" a personal site on this forum but that's just me, all that is is self-promotion.

It's a report, there's going to be some stuff you know.

I do this as a hobby, no self promotion here, just trying to get some nuggets fans thoughts.

Sorry you feel that way but you could just choose to not read. I'll leave it to the mods to tell me if I've done anything wrong

It's your blog, I can see it is an opinion as there were a few incorrect details and nothing eye-opening or inciteful. just what was already known. Gave you my feedback, I wasn't real impressed, as it didn't come across real favorably to the Nuggets. (actually prefer The Rebel's post, at least he does the research and has incite). I will take your advice and avoid reading, much more credible sites to explore.

BTW, do you even know the meaning of self-promotion ?

[skywalker33]

Khris Middleton's name has been coming up in trade talks, certainly wouldn't mind getting him if the price is reasonable, any takers ?

6'8" and listed as a SG or a? I think he'd fit fine at SF though. He tore his hamstring and didn't play last year until Feb. But at 26 years of age, he might be a nice pick up. I'm not so certain the Bucks will trade him though - he's got a great 3pt stroke. For a 3pt specialist, his 4 boards per game is nice. His salary is $14m for 3 years. They don't look to need PFs, so I'm not sure what we have to trade. But I'd be OK with grabbing him.

Yeah, I was thinking of him at SF too. Don't think the Bucks and Nuggets could come to terms as I was over on their forum and they look at his as their 2nd best player, may be hard to argue with all of Parker's injuries. However, I have seen his name mentioned as tradeable.

[Wiltside]

Write-up was obvious and regurgitated info IMO. Didn't think you were supposed to "advertise" a personal site on this forum but that's just me, all that is is self-promotion.

It's a report, there's going to be some stuff you know.

I do this as a hobby, no self promotion here, just trying to get some nuggets fans thoughts.

Sorry you feel that way but you could just choose to not read. I'll leave it to the mods to tell me if I've done anything wrong

It's your blog, I can see it is an opinion as there were a few incorrect details and nothing eye-opening or inciteful. just what was already known. Gave you my feedback, I wasn't real impressed, as it didn't come across real favorably to the Nuggets. (actually prefer The Rebel's post, at least he does the research and has incite). I will take your advice and avoid reading, much more credible sites to explore.

BTW, do you even know the meaning of self-promotion ?

Appreciate you taking the time to read, thanks.

BTW it's "insightful". You are being "inciteful". Cheers.

[skywalker33]

It's a report, there's going to be some stuff you know.

I do this as a hobby, no self promotion here, just trying to get some nuggets fans thoughts.

Sorry you feel that way but you could just choose to not read. I'll leave it to the mods to tell me if I've done anything wrong

It's your blog, I can see it is an opinion as there were a few incorrect details and nothing eye-opening or inciteful. just what was already known. Gave you my feedback, I wasn't real impressed, as it didn't come across real favorably to the Nuggets. (actually prefer The Rebel's post, at least he does the research and has incite). I will take your advice and avoid reading, much more credible sites to explore.

BTW, do you even know the meaning of self-promotion ?

Appreciate you taking the time to read, thanks.

BTW it's "insightful". You are being "inciteful". Cheers.

Appreciate the correction, always in for growth, knew it didn't look right

[NuggetsWY]

Steve Hess is no longer a Nuggets coach.
https://www.denverstiffs.com/2017/8/24/16200316/denver-nuggets-director-of-performance-steve-hess-moves-to-a-consulting-role-coaching-change-nba

[MidMountain]

Khris Middleton's name has been coming up in trade talks, certainly wouldn't mind getting him if the price is reasonable, any takers ?

6'8" and listed as a SG or a? I think he'd fit fine at SF though. He tore his hamstring and didn't play last year until Feb. But at 26 years of age, he might be a nice pick up. I'm not so certain the Bucks will trade him though - he's got a great 3pt stroke. For a 3pt specialist, his 4 boards per game is nice. His salary is $14m for 3 years. They don't look to need PFs, so I'm not sure what we have to trade. But I'd be OK with grabbing him.

Yeah, I was thinking of him at SF too. Don't think the Bucks and Nuggets could come to terms as I was over on their forum and they look at his as their 2nd best player, may be hard to argue with all of Parker's injuries. However, I have seen his name mentioned as tradeable.

I saw his name come up in Kyrie rumors. I think they are only looking to trade him if it means an upgrade somewhere else.

[Alatan]

Nuggets fans, congratulations on a solid offseason. My biggest questions for your team this season:

1.How much does Millsap have left?
2.Is Jamal Murray a starting caliber PG?
3.What do the Nuggets do with Mason Plumlee?
4.How much will you miss Gallinari?

I recently penned a few thoughts on your moves and their potential impact. If you're interested, please have a read: https://thefourpointplay.blog/2017/08/24/nba-nuggets-season-preview/

Thanks for your effort. I like your article as it points out the most important things about the Nuggets that the non Nuggets fans dont know.

I hope that he has those three years left in him. His stats (fg%, rebounding, steals, blocks etc.) may say that he is starting to decline but Millsap is high skill player that knows how to adapt his game and stay very good. So i would say that he has about 2 years for sure.

I think he will be in the next season. He improved his game continuously through the previous season and his stats support it. His shooting is inconsistent but he projects to be a great shooter so im not worried. He is more of a combo guard than a pure pg but that is even better as this is the golden age of combo guards and he fits nicely with Jokic.

I think we should resign him but not over 10 mill a year. He is a good fit for Denver as a backup.

I think Gallinari's shooting from three might be missed because of spacing reasons but Millsap will bring even more of the motion offence that i love so it will be extremely fun.

[skywalker33]

Anyone heard on the Harris extension ??? I don't see Jokic getting done until next offseason but would rather have a "deal in place", especially after he blows up this year !!!!!

[TunaFish]

Nerlens Noel takes the QO. That makes him an unrestricted free agent next year when the market will be flooded with Centers. Looks like Plumlee is backed into a corner and will not be seeing a big contract from anyone.