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Management of Roster & Cap Space

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 3:37 am
by NuggetsWY
Some teams find a need/desire/ability to add a player during the season. Perhaps they sign a G-League or Two-way player; maybe they sign a waived player - I don't remember the Nuggets doing much in this respect, except if they make a trade. There was a time when the Nuggets only carried 14 players, but that was long before this management team.

My question is: Do the Nuggets think it's absolutely essential that they fill every single slot, even if they aren't going to use those players?

Consider that Faried, Hernangomez, Jefferson, Arthur, and Lydon were really not used much this year. In essence, the Nuggets have played ten players the vast majority of the minutes (and I'm including Millsap in the "playing" category even though he was injured - as opposed to Lydon who was injured but hadn't played before the injury).

What's worse is the Nuggets have Faried & Arthur signed to rather large contracts for a player that is basically used for practice only. They tend to like to sign their role players for too much money instead of saving their cap space for their true stars. If they did not sign role players to large contracts, they would find it easier to add a significant veteran (such as Millsap's signing). Plumlee, Faried, Chandler, Arthur total over $46m this year and none have been significant contributors.

Management of roster and cap space seem to be very poorly managed by the Nuggets.

Re: Management of Roster & Cap Space

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:01 pm
by LukaDoncic1
Luka Doncic at small forward for the 2018-2019 season

Re: Management of Roster & Cap Space

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:17 pm
by NuggetsWY
LukaDoncic1 wrote:Luka Doncic at small forward for the 2018-2019 season

Last warning - do not make every one of your posts about Doncic.

Re: Management of Roster & Cap Space

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 5:17 pm
by Powder Blue
NuggetsWY wrote:Some teams find a need/desire/ability to add a player during the season. Perhaps they sign a G-League or Two-way player; maybe they sign a waived player - I don't remember the Nuggets doing much in this respect, except if they make a trade. There was a time when the Nuggets only carried 14 players, but that was long before this management team.

My question is: Do the Nuggets think it's absolutely essential that they fill every single slot, even if they aren't going to use those players?

Consider that Faried, Hernangomez, Jefferson, Arthur, and Lydon were really not used much this year. In essence, the Nuggets have played ten players the vast majority of the minutes (and I'm including Millsap in the "playing" category even though he was injured - as opposed to Lydon who was injured but hadn't played before the injury).

What's worse is the Nuggets have Faried & Arthur signed to rather large contracts for a player that is basically used for practice only. They tend to like to sign their role players for too much money instead of saving their cap space for their true stars. If they did not sign role players to large contracts, they would find it easier to add a significant veteran (such as Millsap's signing). Plumlee, Faried, Chandler, Arthur total over $46m this year and none have been significant contributors.

Management of roster and cap space seem to be very poorly managed by the Nuggets.


Agree with everything other than lumping Chandler in with Plumdog/Faried/Arthur....Chandler seemed distant until Feb but he's been a solid contributor to this team and if he opts out and walks we'll have a HUGE hole at the starting/bench 3 spot. Folks might love Juancho but his playing time regressed this year, hard to say he's improved. Maybe they think Beasley can fill that role or they'll re-sign Barton, not sure.

With the lack of cash to sign a FA my outlook for external roster improvements this off-season isn't high.....but I'll take Mario Hezonja. Probably have to package our 1st with Faried in a trade to free up salary to make any significant improvements.

Re: Management of Roster & Cap Space

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 11:22 pm
by skywalker33
Definitely some trades the FO should have made would have helped with our cap space

Re: Management of Roster & Cap Space

Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 12:32 pm
by The Rebel
NuggetsWY wrote:Some teams find a need/desire/ability to add a player during the season. Perhaps they sign a G-League or Two-way player; maybe they sign a waived player - I don't remember the Nuggets doing much in this respect, except if they make a trade. There was a time when the Nuggets only carried 14 players, but that was long before this management team.

My question is: Do the Nuggets think it's absolutely essential that they fill every single slot, even if they aren't going to use those players?

Consider that Faried, Hernangomez, Jefferson, Arthur, and Lydon were really not used much this year. In essence, the Nuggets have played ten players the vast majority of the minutes (and I'm including Millsap in the "playing" category even though he was injured - as opposed to Lydon who was injured but hadn't played before the injury).

What's worse is the Nuggets have Faried & Arthur signed to rather large contracts for a player that is basically used for practice only. They tend to like to sign their role players for too much money instead of saving their cap space for their true stars. If they did not sign role players to large contracts, they would find it easier to add a significant veteran (such as Millsap's signing). Plumlee, Faried, Chandler, Arthur total over $46m this year and none have been significant contributors.

Management of roster and cap space seem to be very poorly managed by the Nuggets.


I am not too concerned about signing waived players, hell we signed one in Jefferson this season, and it did not do much good.

I am more concerned with the terrible roster and cap space management that has went through this rebuild. Allowing role players to decide whether they should be traded or not, keeping players that the coach had no interest in playing, resigning injury prone players because they wanted to be here, and trading guys when their value was at bottom dollar has long been a problem.

I said a year ago that they needed to dump the veterans at the trade deadline and see what we had with the young guys, they didn't and now we have a capped out team staring at the luxury tax with no real way to improve other than internal development. With a coach that does not even understand how to use a system that fits his players talents.

We have $54 million going to the PF position and another $13 million to our backup Center, in a league that has been changed to make the game easier for perimeter players. This year our highest paid perimeter player is Wilson Chandler, a guy who also plays PF and a guy who makes no secret of the fact that he does not want to be here. Yet Connelly got a promotion/ raise/extension last year?

We need all the roster spots full, just so that we may hit on a couple of more young guys but I have little faith that the front office can make the moves to fix the roster and even less faith that Malone will figure out how to use them even if they do.

Re: Management of Roster & Cap Space

Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 12:56 pm
by NuggetsWY
The Rebel wrote:
NuggetsWY wrote:Some teams find a need/desire/ability to add a player during the season. Perhaps they sign a G-League or Two-way player; maybe they sign a waived player - I don't remember the Nuggets doing much in this respect, except if they make a trade. There was a time when the Nuggets only carried 14 players, but that was long before this management team.

My question is: Do the Nuggets think it's absolutely essential that they fill every single slot, even if they aren't going to use those players?

Consider that Faried, Hernangomez, Jefferson, Arthur, and Lydon were really not used much this year. In essence, the Nuggets have played ten players the vast majority of the minutes (and I'm including Millsap in the "playing" category even though he was injured - as opposed to Lydon who was injured but hadn't played before the injury).

What's worse is the Nuggets have Faried & Arthur signed to rather large contracts for a player that is basically used for practice only. They tend to like to sign their role players for too much money instead of saving their cap space for their true stars. If they did not sign role players to large contracts, they would find it easier to add a significant veteran (such as Millsap's signing). Plumlee, Faried, Chandler, Arthur total over $46m this year and none have been significant contributors.

Management of roster and cap space seem to be very poorly managed by the Nuggets.


I am not too concerned about signing waived players, hell we signed one in Jefferson this season, and it did not do much good.

I am more concerned with the terrible roster and cap space management that has went through this rebuild. Allowing role players to decide whether they should be traded or not, keeping players that the coach had no interest in playing, resigning injury prone players because they wanted to be here, and trading guys when their value was at bottom dollar has long been a problem.

I said a year ago that they needed to dump the veterans at the trade deadline and see what we had with the young guys, they didn't and now we have a capped out team staring at the luxury tax with no real way to improve other than internal development. With a coach that does not even understand how to use a system that fits his players talents.

We have $54 million going to the PF position and another $13 million to our backup Center, in a league that has been changed to make the game easier for perimeter players. This year our highest paid perimeter player is Wilson Chandler, a guy who also plays PF and a guy who makes no secret of the fact that he does not want to be here. Yet Connelly got a promotion/ raise/extension last year?

We need all the roster spots full, just so that we may hit on a couple of more young guys but I have little faith that the front office can make the moves to fix the roster and even less faith that Malone will figure out how to use them even if they do.

All true but I'll disagree with that last paragraph. We don't need a full roster because our coach only plays 9-10 guys and that includes garbage time. Even with injuries, he doesn't use all of his players. Of course as we've all said repeatedly, having 6 PFs with a coach that uses his best SF as a PF and his backup center as a PF (meaning 8 PFs), how could he possibly use his full roster?

But yeah, the last phrase of that paragraph is still true - "less faith that Malone will figure out how to use them".