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It was announced Mike Woodson is not returning to the Clippers. His reputation is as a defensive coach, or so they say. Is he an option for the Nuggets?

I dont know that he would make a difference other than being another voice to the players. Malone used to be Woodson's assistant and came up with the Cavs and I believe Knicks together so I don't know how different the philosophy is.

The Rebel wrote:I dont know that he would make a difference other than being another voice to the players. Malone used to be Woodson's assistant and came up with the Cavs and I believe Knicks together so I don't know how different the philosophy is.

Philosophy can be different than implementation. IMO Woodson has done a better job of implementing.

NuggetsWY wrote:

The Rebel wrote:I dont know that he would make a difference other than being another voice to the players. Malone used to be Woodson's assistant and came up with the Cavs and I believe Knicks together so I don't know how different the philosophy is.

Philosophy can be different than implementation. IMO Woodson has done a better job of implementing.

the issue is that Malone is still the one implementing it.

The Rebel wrote:

NuggetsWY wrote:

The Rebel wrote:I dont know that he would make a difference other than being another voice to the players. Malone used to be Woodson's assistant and came up with the Cavs and I believe Knicks together so I don't know how different the philosophy is.

Philosophy can be different than implementation. IMO Woodson has done a better job of implementing.

the issue is that Malone is still the one implementing it.

That's depressing - I'm trying to forget that.

NuggetsWY wrote:

The Rebel wrote:

NuggetsWY wrote:Philosophy can be different than implementation. IMO Woodson has done a better job of implementing.

the issue is that Malone is still the one implementing it.

That's depressing - I'm trying to forget that.

I'm ready for a new chant this season: "1,2,3,6 months".

NuggetsWY wrote:

NuggetsWY wrote:

The Rebel wrote:the issue is that Malone is still the one implementing it.

That's depressing - I'm trying to forget that.

I'm ready for a new chant this season: "1,2,3,6 months".

This team is going nowhere with Malone.

Instead of worrying about a defensive coach, what Malone should do is go watch tapes of how the Celtics used Bird, people can talk crap all they want but that Jokic is the closest player I have ever seen to be able to pass like Bird could. Then he needs to sit down and watch his old team the Warriors and figure out how they play defense so well despite obvious physical limitations. After that he can sit down and try to decipher what he has seen and how to use that with his roster, then worry about who to bring in as assistants.

The Rebel wrote:Instead of worrying about a defensive coach, what Malone should do is go watch tapes of how the Celtics used Bird, people can talk crap all they want but that Jokic is the closest player I have ever seen to be able to pass like Bird could. Then he needs to sit down and watch his old team the Warriors and figure out how they play defense so well despite obvious physical limitations. After that he can sit down and try to decipher what he has seen and how to use that with his roster, then worry about who to bring in as assistants.

Wouldn't mind them watching the current Celtics game films either

skywalker33 wrote:

The Rebel wrote:Instead of worrying about a defensive coach, what Malone should do is go watch tapes of how the Celtics used Bird, people can talk crap all they want but that Jokic is the closest player I have ever seen to be able to pass like Bird could. Then he needs to sit down and watch his old team the Warriors and figure out how they play defense so well despite obvious physical limitations. After that he can sit down and try to decipher what he has seen and how to use that with his roster, then worry about who to bring in as assistants.

Wouldn't mind them watching the current Celtics game films either

I would agree, but that may convince Malone that he should use 2 centers like the Celtics do with Baynes and Horford.

The one thing that Karl did that I always liked was to go figure out what kind of changes he wanted to make with the systems, and then brought in assistant coaches who were experts in that system. If you remember he brought in Moe, he brought in the guy who designed the drive and kick systems, he brought in defensive assistants to teach the gambling defenses. Karl came up with the changes and brought in experts to implement it, and that is what Malone needs to do.

The Rebel wrote:

skywalker33 wrote:

The Rebel wrote:Instead of worrying about a defensive coach, what Malone should do is go watch tapes of how the Celtics used Bird, people can talk crap all they want but that Jokic is the closest player I have ever seen to be able to pass like Bird could. Then he needs to sit down and watch his old team the Warriors and figure out how they play defense so well despite obvious physical limitations. After that he can sit down and try to decipher what he has seen and how to use that with his roster, then worry about who to bring in as assistants.

Wouldn't mind them watching the current Celtics game films either

I would agree, but that may convince Malone that he should use 2 centers like the Celtics do with Baynes and Horford.

The one thing that Karl did that I always liked was to go figure out what kind of changes he wanted to make with the systems, and then brought in assistant coaches who were experts in that system. If you remember he brought in Moe, he brought in the guy who designed the drive and kick systems, he brought in defensive assistants to teach the gambling defenses. Karl came up with the changes and brought in experts to implement it, and that is what Malone needs to do.

Malone already uses 2 centers, so what's the harm of him watching Boston?

I was not a big fan of Karl but probably liked him better than a lot of people around here. If I'm comparing Karl to the two replacements we've had since him, I'll give Karl an A+.

The Rebel wrote:

skywalker33 wrote:

The Rebel wrote:Instead of worrying about a defensive coach, what Malone should do is go watch tapes of how the Celtics used Bird, people can talk crap all they want but that Jokic is the closest player I have ever seen to be able to pass like Bird could. Then he needs to sit down and watch his old team the Warriors and figure out how they play defense so well despite obvious physical limitations. After that he can sit down and try to decipher what he has seen and how to use that with his roster, then worry about who to bring in as assistants.

Wouldn't mind them watching the current Celtics game films either

I would agree, but that may convince Malone that he should use 2 centers like the Celtics do with Baynes and Horford.

The one thing that Karl did that I always liked was to go figure out what kind of changes he wanted to make with the systems, and then brought in assistant coaches who were experts in that system. If you remember he brought in Moe, he brought in the guy who designed the drive and kick systems, he brought in defensive assistants to teach the gambling defenses. Karl came up with the changes and brought in experts to implement it, and that is what Malone needs to do.

Well, Horford has the mindset of a C/PF. Plumlee doesn't have the shooting ability to be more than a C, his spacing skills suck. And honestly I don't believe Jokic has the mindset (footwork, mentality, confidence, not sure here ????) to play PF it just doesn't seem to click with him.

Yeah, I remember something you said about Malone being stubborn and your spiel about Karl is a true representation of why Malone will never be that guy to take us to the next level, I agree and applaud this statement.

skywalker33 wrote:

The Rebel wrote:

skywalker33 wrote:
Wouldn't mind them watching the current Celtics game films either

I would agree, but that may convince Malone that he should use 2 centers like the Celtics do with Baynes and Horford.

The one thing that Karl did that I always liked was to go figure out what kind of changes he wanted to make with the systems, and then brought in assistant coaches who were experts in that system. If you remember he brought in Moe, he brought in the guy who designed the drive and kick systems, he brought in defensive assistants to teach the gambling defenses. Karl came up with the changes and brought in experts to implement it, and that is what Malone needs to do.

Well, Horford has the mindset of a C/PF. Plumlee doesn't have the shooting ability to be more than a C, his spacing skills suck. And honestly I don't believe Jokic has the mindset (footwork, mentality, confidence, not sure here ????) to play PF it just doesn't seem to click with him.

Yeah, I remember something you said about Malone being stubborn and your spiel about Karl is a true representation of why Malone will never be that guy to take us to the next level, I agree and applaud this statement.

If they put Plumlee in a more traditional PF role like they did before the injury, than Plumlee is not a terrible fit offensively with Jokic, The issue is that his defense is terrible. People remember the block at the end of the season, but they forget that both of the 2 plays before that they ran the same exact play and Plumlee wasn't there to stop those 2. If we are going to depend on Plumlee, I would rather play Faried. They are comparable, but Faried brings so much more fire and enthusiasm that it pumps up the team.

My problem with Malone is and always has been that I don't think Malone has the flexibility in what he thinks a good offense and a good defense are. I think if Jokic had never been drafted than we would see a team that more closely fits Malone's vision, as we would likely still have Nurkic, and would be a defensive team with pass 1st PG nd 3 shooters. I can get over him struggling to control time outs and adjusting in games, but I cannot get over a guy who tries to force guys into roles in that does not fit them. With Nurkic and Jokic Malone tried to turn Jokic into a stretch 4, it was a worse use of a guy's talents than when Shaw decided that Fournier should be a 3 D SG, and people were pissed when that happened. Malone has to be replaced to ever start to reach the potential of this team, but I fear they will destroy the team 1st.

The Rebel wrote:Instead of worrying about a defensive coach, what Malone should do is go watch tapes of how the Celtics used Bird, people can talk crap all they want but that Jokic is the closest player I have ever seen to be able to pass like Bird could. Then he needs to sit down and watch his old team the Warriors and figure out how they play defense so well despite obvious physical limitations. After that he can sit down and try to decipher what he has seen and how to use that with his roster, then worry about who to bring in as assistants.

He could just watch the current Celtics.

SoCalNuggsFan wrote:Don’t see why we would need a defensive assistant coach when we already have a defensive head coach.

Sorry, I did a quick edit just to implement the green - totally agree and understand where that humor comes from.